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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
think the original topic DIED!

so i made this, if its not dead, forgive me, but i dont see it anywhere.

the original topic may be read and found here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205878-3.html

don't reply in the original as the reply will not work. reply in this topic!

this was the reply i meant to write:

PlutoSquared,


would you like me to comment? or did you wish to add more as implied by your post, before i speak?

thankyou for taking the time to read it.

as for others doubts in the composites -

i can understand the reasons, but i also can't deny what seems like accuracy in all the things iv read in the past year about our relationship based on the composite.

and quite honestly, i don't actually see ANYWHERE in our synastry, the energies that are going on between us ontop of what is explained in the synastry, only the composite seems to colour the picture (picture = blue print).

thats how i see it.

the natal is the blue print, dna, its black and white, its the sketch, drawing without any colour, you know the look of the relationship but not the colour and feel of it.

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DD
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posted October 28, 2010 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
sometimes it`s a question of which glasses you / we wear.

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posted October 28, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
OMG! It's GONE!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh! Are you sure! That contained extremely important information that I did not have time to copy! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
dear GypseeWind, and other members,

i would like to inform you that i still have access to the original topic as i left it open in one of my tabs.

so in other words, the information isnt really lost, i can copy and paste anything from it.

infact, here's a better idea:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205878-3.html

ill put the link in my original post here. DONT POST IN THE OLD ONE the reply won't work.

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posted October 28, 2010 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Bless you Letram! I almost had heart failure! Thank You!

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posted October 28, 2010 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Don't worry!

I can re-do anything that needs to be re-done with the charts...

Or, answer any questions that you have... so, just repost the composites, and ask questions, or just repost for the basic interpretation!

Sad that the thread went down

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
PlutoSquared, did you intend to add more before i comment on what you wrote about our composite?

i really like your readings by the way.

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posted October 28, 2010 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Letram,

Thank you! I'm happy that I can use my love of astrology, to give you these interpretations.

Let me look at the composite again, and I'll repost what I said, and maybe add a few more comments

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posted October 28, 2010 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[repost to Letram]

Letram,

"we have the opposition, were very binded,
but there are some incredibly difficult external factors that may not allow us to be as we wish to, but what we do know is that we don't the right conditions to love eachother as we are right now, when two people truly love eachother, then thinking about the conditions shouldnt cease their feelings or what is."

I think it's pretty clear your statement lines up with the oppositions of the chart -
Uranus, Saturn, Neptune in Capricorn opposition Venus in 12th house.

I think in order for this relationship to continue, you have to submit your loving energy to nurturing, understanding, patience, almost a motherly understanding - as signified by the 12th house Venus in Cancer.

This is a relationship that almost can't survive, otherwise...

With the Jupiter in 11th house in Gemini, you'd make GREAT friends, however, the Sun and Mercury in Scorpio in 5th house, and Mercury in Sagg in 5th house kind of require that you're MORE than friends.

Moon in 8th in Pisces - deep, bonding emotions.

Mars in 4th in Scorpio grand trine with Venus and Moon.

You'll fight for this relationship to last, because of the greater compatibilities.

And, because of the intense sexual experiences - Pluto in 5th forming trines with Moon and Venus.

It looks like the Moon in Scorpio is square that Jupiter in 11th in Gemini - that to me just means how adversed you two are on giving up the idea of being a couple.

Mercury quincunx Venus in 12th. You're probably very optimistic in conversations, and don't connect with the energies of your Venus placement - in the sense that those energies are kind of unreconciled... "Why talk about the difficulty of the love, and the distance, when we can be positive, now?"

Health, work, and finances are the weak and unexpected areas that will really put a damper on your relationship...

Uranus quincunx Jupiter... I'll have to think about this one...

And ascendant in Cancer: Loving relationship that alludes to having a loving "home".

I think you guys just show that in spite of external factors, love will find a way, especially if it's deep.

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posted October 28, 2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram, continued]

I just keep noticing the oppositions to the Jupiter placement in the 11th house.

In spite of the fact that it would be "easier" theoretically if you were friends, the energy of your composite screams, "no!" Haha. It demands that you reconcile that, too.

Perhaps, you have to be as friends, at times. And, lovers when you can.

I like to end on positive notes, if I can...

Notice the Chiron so close to the Venus in Cancer in 12th...

This relationship has been difficult to manifest in say, the 1st house way, but the relationship brings healing to you.

My gut says, that while you may be waiting for it to come to fruition, so that you can be together, just knowing that each other is there, and your love DOES exist, brings healing and positive energy to your lives.

It's a very nice chart overall, in the fact that love has found a way in spite of external factors It's clearly reflected in the chart.

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posted October 28, 2010 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Gypseewind,

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[Gypseewind to Plutosquared]

Hi Pluto Squared, sorry I just gone on, I've had a killer migraine today.
A WHOLE bunch of what you said is VERY VERY true.
I MEAN A WHOLE BUNCH!
But now after reading others opinions of composites, I'm wondering if I should just show you the synastry, so if it's ok with you, I will post that tomorrow, as my head is still pounding.

You can post your tarot question to me in the Personal Readings forum, or my own thread in the Know Two Are Alike forum, or you can email me privately if you don't wish for your question to be viewed by others.
You can find my email in the Astral Realms forum, where I am a moderator.
I'll check back here for your answer in the A.M.
And thanks for giving me something to think about!
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I'll post my question in the tarot forum, and post the link here

Thank you for giving me a reading! And, I'm happy that the composite reading was somewhat accurate - I had to think on the chart for a while!

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posted October 28, 2010 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
And, yes... Gypsee and Letram, if you want to post the synastries, I can look over them, too.

I think my original statement on the composite chart, is that it's AS important as the synastry.

Like a few others, at first I was skeptical of the composite. I didn't understand how taking mathematical midpoints calculated by the partner's aspects, could really show anything relevant, at all.

I changed my mind after reading composite charts for couples, and doing them for myself and others.

Sometimes, there are details I'll only see in the composite chart or the synastry chart, so looking at BOTH is helpful.

And logically, it makes sense to look at the synastry first. And, then the composite.

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posted October 28, 2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Ok, you are back, Pluto Squared.
Here is my synastry, that might make it easier for you, I'm not sure which ones you like to read the most.
I didn't include any asteroids because you didn't say to, but I can add them if you want.
I'de like to reply to the composite, but it might be long and boring for others to read, do you have an email? I'm online for awhile right now, so if you post it up, I can copy it and you can take it right down.

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posted October 28, 2010 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Gypseewind, my email is: --------@-----.com

Edit: I emailed you Gypseewind....

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posted October 28, 2010 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
GypseeWind,

Here's the thread I created in the reading forum:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000959.html

Thank you!

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posted October 28, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Also, too...

Would you include the grid on the bottom of the astro.com charts, that show the aspects and orbs.

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posted October 28, 2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
PlutoSquared, i would love to see what our synastry makes you think!

im going to write a reply and comment on your interpretation, thankyou so much

our synastry:

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posted October 28, 2010 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, Pluto, you can take it down now, I got it.
Grid?? I didn't see a grid for this one, but I'll go back and check.

I'm going to see your tarot question, and in the meantime, I'll email you.
I like to take my time with tarot, so it may take me all day to answer your question.

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posted October 28, 2010 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Gypseewind,

Take your time. Work how you like to work!

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posted October 28, 2010 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, I'm looking at the linked PDF files that come along with the synastries.

The grid is included (at the bottom) with composites, only.

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posted October 28, 2010 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

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posted October 28, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

Ok,

First note the obvious polarities of attraction between Libra and Aries energies of the chart...

Not only do you like how adventurous and innocent and hopeful (in love) she is, you're very attracted to that...

Your Moon conjunct her Venus in Aries.
Attraction and compatibility.

Her Venus in Aries is opposite your Venus in Libra. Attraction.

HER sun in Aquarius conjunct YOUR North Node. Destiny. Sign of "this relationship was supposed to happen."

YOUR Pluto in 4th in Scorpio square (3 degrees) HER Mercury in Aquarius in 8th...

This is a strange aspect, that shows a severing of contact, with orgins of secrecy or confusion with home or family...

DO YOU not want to talk about your family? YOUR past? Perhaps SHE HAS a naturally fun and inquisitive interest of YOUR background, but YOU completely block HER from knowing about it (will even shut conversation down, for talking about it)???

Perhaps, there's a family member that disagrees and opposes your relationship? Maybe someone inside your family would like to see the communication between you stop? This person would have a lot of influence over him, almost too much.

PARTNER'S Saturn in 6th house (house of work and service) square YOUR Venus in Libra in 3rd.

Before I comment on this aspect, I have to note that YOU ARE probably a VERY CHARMING conversationalist. YOU HAVE both Mercury (in Virgo) in 3rd and Venus (in Libra) in 3rd. YOU ARE not only charming, but very intelligent and mentally organized.

[Eat that up, LEO!! Hahaha]

I see the above aspect as this: Communicating in general is VERY important to YOU in showing YOUR love, also, communicating WITH HER is very important to YOU. BUT, HER Saturn squaring Venus tells me that HER job blocks YOU from speaking to HER, expressing YOUR love for HER.

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posted October 28, 2010 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

More on your Pluto Placement in Scorpio:

You have a very tight connection to the house of family. This is a very strong connection, and not exactly a warm feeling one...

YOU probably feels like the bond at home is so strong, that you would have to end conversation with her, before you would leave your family?

Just putting this out there...

Her North Node is in Aquarius in 7th.

Letram, if you ever feel guilty about your relationship, don't.

You were DESTINED to have this kind of relationship with her. With Aquarius North Node in 7th.

Your relationship was destined to be unique, chatty, friendly... conjunct her Sun.

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posted October 28, 2010 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

I know Pluto is a very slow moving planet, but it's very significant. And, I will read for the conjunctions, regardless.

I think that your Pluto in 4th in Scorpio can end up changing the way she loves right down to her core, and her Pluto can change your life right down to your family and origins.

Continuing...

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posted October 28, 2010 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

Seeing as your Sun is in Leo in 1st house... I think you really WANT to be independent and freespirited (like you are), but that control aspect at home keeps you in check?

Just a gut feeling, but is your relationship perhaps a subconscious (catalyst) way of breaking free of the control of your family and parents???

Moving on...

Do you stand to get "disinherited"???

I just see the Jupiter in 11th in Pisces...

Is there a lot of money in the family? Would you stand to lose your inheritance somehow by up and moving to the US to be with her?

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