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Ami Anne
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posted November 08, 2010 07:27 AM
 
Yes, I get that, Mir. You are right. "Stronger" is too black and white a word.
What is going on with him /him and you now?
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mir
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posted November 08, 2010 09:16 AM
Well, as I decided to go on with my life I had a date Saturday night with.. the PERFECT man! Nice, gentle, handsome, presents, nice car (pfft)..
No water in chart except Scorp-Neptune exactly on my Moon. Sun/Moon/Asc. in AIR.
I don't know if it was my paranoia scorp-moon but more than once I became extremely suspicious about who this person was.
To make a long story short; I missed my pisces, called him at home (in the weekend he is), let a few tears about my dating event with this perfect man blabla... he invited me, I went to him (as a friend) and the greatest familiarity between us passed..
I/we enjoyed the moment without looking to any future and it was great!
He told me he's phasing out the therapy/hospitalization and in a few weeks he may return home on a permanent basis.
He thinks he's healed but at the same time he's afraid he's not....IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 08, 2010 09:48 AM
I hope he's okay, but I understand your wariness. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 08, 2010 10:41 AM
You know,Mir, I learned a LOT from the Pisces thread.
It took me a long time to learn the language of the Pisces/stronly Neptunian man. They are more sensitive to nuances like an impressionistic painting rather than a black and white photograph lol Too many words and strong emotions can overwhelm their nature as strobe lights on a dance floor.
Woman will often barrage their guy with "demanding" answers to questions like "Where is this relationship going? and "Do we have a future together or not?" It IS a natural question but I have found that the Pisces man cannot really respond when "confronted" as an earth sign man could, for example.
The Pisces man will retreat,often, and we take it that he does not care.
He MAY care ,very much, but not be able to say it in a way that WE receive it as such. You have to be able to feel your guy out and most importantly trust(within yourself) rather than ask him to reassure you verbally. You have to KNOW what he means when he does not SAY it ,directly.
He will say things that have to be read between the lines.
Your own radar has to be working well to be in a relationship with a Pisces man. That is what I have learned from the Pisces threads and my own intuition with my guy. Perhaps, your Pisces guy IS the right guy for you but you want him to be different than his basic Piscean nature.
Perhaps ,he cares deeply for you AND wants a future with you, too, but he cannot articulate it in a way that YOU can receive.
I realize that *I* must suspend my mind in favor of my heart with this type of man.
In return you get the beautiful Piscean qualities which make you melt more than any other sign lol
Just a thought to consider 
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mir
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posted November 08, 2010 10:49 AM
thanx!Ami, that's true true true true true ! ! !  IP: Logged |
DepTaurus
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posted November 08, 2010 01:20 PM
neptune is a really weriod planet for me i can tell you in 2008 when neptune was conjunct my moon still is i was severly depressed and i was so embaressed to talk about it. some how when anything is near my moon it makes me wonkers.now neptune is square my sun which is kinda giving me a hard time but not as much as neptune cojunct moon was. at least with neptune square sun i`m not so scared all of the time. after this winter i wont have neptune to deal with anymore. and last year when we had that triple conjunction with jupiter chiron neptune it was smack right on my moon i have never been so emotionally vulnerable in my life. i dont know how i survived that specific period in my life but i am glad its over and done with. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 08, 2010 01:23 PM
I am so glad you took it with love, as it was meant, and not with criticism.
I am learning this from "on the job training "  ------------------
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mir
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posted November 08, 2010 02:41 PM
My pisces has an Aqua-Mercury at 26'58 in the 8th.. (square Moon, trine Mars)The astrological cause of his mental hospitalization?
T Neptune and T Chiron dancing on it.. (at least Neptune) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 09, 2010 09:25 AM
Finally, this fog is leaving.
I will have to check transits cuz it seemed like it started leaving ,in a serious way, last week. At the conference, I met a guy and bought all his CD's. He showed me the path from how to get from your inside to your outside. IOW, he showed me that it WAS OK to feel and think what you do.
I don't have to take my feelings ,wind them up, change them and make them socially acceptable. I can BE who I am. This was life changing. The Neptune fog was ,partially, fear of being who I am. I was so chastised for my feelings as a child that I thought the sky would fall on me if I had an original feeling . I waited for some sort of repercussion from the outside like a hammer on my head  It feels like Neptune has changed, somehow. I am gonna look up the transits and be back.
Thank you to everyone who reads these posts and encourages me
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Ami Anne
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posted November 09, 2010 09:32 AM
I have Neptune conjunct Chiron ,exact.
I never looked at transits ,before, cuz I have not gotten that far lolI wonder how long Chiron stays someplace?
I will have to look it up. Actually, it feels like Chiron,the wounded healer IS doing surgery on my Neptune and taking off the horrible fog which has been there since I was 14. Does this make sense for HOW Chiron would work? Neptune is in my 12th house,btw. ------------------
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Lioness
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posted November 09, 2010 11:05 PM
Here's what I have learned about my Pisces... I know my Pisces guy pretty well.. One day we talked and I told him... about HIM... LOL... he was pretty amazed at everything I have picked up on... Not saying its all Pisces guys... But this is him.. He HATES HATES HATES questions with a passion, especially Why questions... When I want an answer from him about something I have to wait on timing, and his mood.. When he's comfortable answering.. I also have to fiqure out a way to ask w/o asking him why.. Or in a super nice way... He usually responds well... Sometimes I ask him "may I ask u a question" he responds yes of course u may... or sometimes just sure... lol.. I really needed an answer from him on why are we friends... I told him I know u dont like why questions, but If you give just give me one why question I would really appreciate it... He laughed and said ok... U get one why question... He said because I feel a special bond with you, thats why... SILLY GIRL!! He needs to be some what told what he needs to do, but in a non controlled way... In a convincing way, getting into his head with logic.. "whats best" and why.. Really soft tones..
He DID beat around the bush ALOT with me.. but once I got mad at him, and told him to STOP that crap...That it adds confusing.. And if he cant say what he has to say, then dont bother... He has totally changed that.. (with me) He stopped this.. He swam away but was back with a vengeance.. Basically what I feel he wants/needs.. He wants to be understood, with out questions or explanations.. He wants people just to know him... (which is confusing) but it is what it is... I think deep down inside, he's afraid of him self.. I cant explain it.. but I just feel that from him... There's more, but I cant think.. lol IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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posted November 09, 2010 11:10 PM
Ami,Your "energy" from the outside is changing A LOT too... You seem brighter and more happy. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted November 10, 2010 06:25 AM
I CAN'T deny (my own) nature..Deep down inside me I'm very VERY angry with my pisces.
My instinct knows ONE thing; 'His family is number ONE and I'm number TWO'
That's the heart of the matter. Just stay friends is a lie. I could only feel it for a few days .. I called him and with a soft but sharp tone I released my heart .. all that hidden stuff came out.
He had to hang up because his tears came.. He KNOWS he's hurting me (my mom has cancer and I NEED him) but he CAN'T be there for me because his family is number ONE.
And *I* was there for him when he needed me.. (I said it all) His tears told me that he has no choice.. and I think I can accept it better now.. maybe the anger shrinks now.. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 10, 2010 07:24 AM
Thank you Pluto Squared
You know what it is---Hope.
I have hope to find the Gemini girl that I lost. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 10, 2010 07:26 AM
Mir, Lioness,Dep Taurus,Mermaid, Lonake,Nadyia and Teasel
Come down to the last Forum /Sweet Peas. It is about ALL these topics which we want to discuss with each other.------------------
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iQ
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posted November 10, 2010 07:27 AM
Plutosquared wrote:
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Your "energy" from the outside is changing A LOT too...
You seem brighter and more happy.
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True. And all introspectors are going to gain from the "spiritually downloadable" insights on 11-11-2010.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 10, 2010 07:30 AM
How is it downloaded ,IQ-- spiritually?
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iQ
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posted November 10, 2010 07:35 AM
The ideas will pop in when the Mind is kept calm and still. You just wont know how you thought of the insights. I use the word "download" as a metaphor as we are all more familiar with computers.
The actual mechanism is via the Pineal Gland and 3 Subtle Chakras below the Crown Chakra that connect to the Right Brain Hemisphere. Even Neurologists and Biologists do not know the mechanism. It just happens ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 10, 2010 07:44 AM
Dear Mir,
I know what I want in certain things but I can leave the outcome in God's hands.The main thing I want is a place to let my heart rest with someone who is not afraid of "real" That is why you have a relationship,to me. I say all this cuz you have to decide if "what is" is OK. Is "what is" with this guy acceptable to you?
You have to accept that none of his "bad" ,such as his relationship with his mother and his Pisces ways lol may EVER change.
Can you live with that?
Right now,you are between two worlds. You want him as YOU want him to be, not as he IS.
I hope I am not acting like I know "how" to have a relationship or how to even be a 'person" cuz this is all new to me lol
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Lioness
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posted November 10, 2010 11:15 AM
Ami,
I'm not sure what forum/ thread you mean?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 10, 2010 11:26 AM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000058.html
It is about all the things we talk about in e mail and on here.
It doesn't even HAVE to have astrological content
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mir
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posted November 10, 2010 11:46 AM
Well.. that he has 'no choice' is no argument for me to go on with him (yeah I know that it almost seemed as if I had my reason to go on.. but that's not what I meant).It's JUST that I don't want to say good-bye with emotions of anger/hate/'feeling used' or something like that..
And if I see he has 'no choice' it could help me, it makes things more acceptable (I hope), to go on with my life without !@#$@
But well, the FEELING hasn't got much words so I don't know exactly if 'knowing this' REALLY helps. Well, a bit is enough and for now it helps. To remember his last tears could help me to go on with my own life more positively.. the tears telling me; I FEEL for and with you but I simply CAN'T do it another way.. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 10, 2010 12:40 PM
It sounds like he CAN'T be different .
It takes SO long to change old patterns.
I think every person is an "as is" with no expectation of change.------------------
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