posted November 13, 2010 05:29 PM         

those would be classic romance / affair-indicators, donīt you think?

"In one case, I had:
-PVenus conjunct my Sun
--PSun conjunct my Mars (not necessarily romantic, but together with the Venus-progression very powerful)
HE had:
-PVenus conjunct his Mars"

"In another, I had:
-PVenus conjunct my Mars
HE had:
-PMars conjunct his Venus
-PSun conjunct his Venus"

Oh now I erased his rulers, sorry, of course they are important, too.

I think these progressions set the frame / made the theme of love and sexual attraction become more important during a certrain phase in your lives. And the transits might have been the actual trigger of you falling in love.

posted November 13, 2010 05:36 PM         

No, scratch that. I KNOW a thing (a single aspect) like this simply does not exist.

Though of course certain aspects can be extremely significant. But a Sun-Venus-aspect can mean different things in different charts actually, depending on other aspects to them, houseplacements and houserulership.

posted November 13, 2010 05:58 PM         

Although, the recent Aries ex and I both still have those progressions happening, because progressions are so slow. And now I'm quite alone and miserable. He might have met someone else though. Transits show the heartbreak part better than the progressions, I think.

Also in the case of my Libra ex, he had what looked like good love progressions when I left him.

I see how different progressions AND transits would never "always" play out the same for everyone though.

posted November 13, 2010 06:05 PM         

Just another possibility.

Sorry, but the equation Venus/Sun = love of life is too simplistic (though it may be fitting in some cases; but it is only ONE possibility of a whole spectre)

posted November 13, 2010 06:06 PM         

were the progressions still applying?

posted November 13, 2010 06:56 PM         

I keep hearing it's only when it's at like 1 degree applying or even separating is when it supposedly 'takes effect' but I have nooo idea. Right now it's at about 2 degrees applying. My progressed sun is at 28 and a half degrees Libra and frankly I am scared of critical degrees in progressions as well so I've been reluctant with this aspect.

posted November 13, 2010 07:31 PM         

"But in my experience it is love of life"
actually you BELIEVE that now, but you can only know it for certain once you die.

But having said that maybe in this case it sifnified the love of your life, but that doesn`t mean it has to be the same thing for everyone else.

posted November 13, 2010 07:51 PM         

I had T moon/kaali sq my IC and T sun cj n NN.
He had T Kaali opp his n NN

Amazingly, we both T his name/venus opp his T lara
(so our names were transiting an exact opposition!)
This opposition conjuncted his n cupid, his secondary kaali, It conjuncted my secondary destinn/valentine LOL

posted November 13, 2010 07:55 PM         

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I''m pretty sure, that when a man looks back on his life in old age, and says ' she was the love of my life, she was so beautiful, my true love, an angel from heaven', I'm pretty sure, we will see a progression of his venus conjunct natal sun on the year he met her.

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But what about the people--probably quite a large number--who will never have this progression?

Also, what about same-sex couples? If the love of a man's life is another man, would it still be pVenus conjunct Sun, or could it also be pSun conjunct Venus?

It's also complicated, because there are so many different stages in a relationship--I know a man who met a woman and they were just friends, then fifteen years later they met again and fell in love. If it were true that he would have to have pVenus conj nSun, would that be the year they met or the year they first f"*ked each other or the year they married?

posted November 13, 2010 08:10 PM         

And as for your other suggestion, there is no way to find out, is there?

I wouldn`t be surprised to find a Sun-Venus-progression though, as in my books it definitely can be ONE aspect signaling that a love comes into your life, but that is not the same as "love of your life".

I admire Blashke, and I will have to read his book again, but I doubt that he said that in this absolute way as you say it here.

It`s actually pretty dangerous to rely on this one interpretation for one aspect and ignoring all other possible interpretations or other aspects; in many cases it will be misleading and trigger excpectations / hope in people, that often will not be fulfilled.

posted November 13, 2010 08:18 PM         

Sure it exists,

BUT

in most cases I hear people utter this sentence, it serves as a perfect excuse for them to not move on, but cling to old emotional patterns, though they arenīt healthy anymore.

In most cases people will call someone "the love of my life", when something couldn`t be fully explored, when they got separated, due to circumstances, time or because one just broke up with the other.
So usually, it is more a sign of "a love that couldn`t live", and people attribute such a significance to it, a glory, that they become blind to other chances of love in their life.

That is definitely not what Sun/Venus is about in my book.

Sayin something like: "He was the love of my life" actually implies that someone has given up on love and believe they can only find it in the past.

posted November 13, 2010 08:22 PM         

Sun/Venus is actually more a calm, affective, admiring kind of love, sometimes accompanied with the wish of settling down together.

It`s not as hot and sexy as Venus/Mars for example.

This is the reason that Sun/Venus actually can also begin as friendship, based on admiration or an ability to agree on certain things (which is Venusian symbolism, too).

But usually you will find the Venus progressions the time when people fall in love.

PRogressions actually often explain how people can pass each other a dozen times, and then one day, boom, they fall in love, though there had been no spark before.
Often a progression (pr synastry) will be in play then, a progression that has come into the "feelable range" (which according to Westran is 1,5 to 2 degrees).

posted November 13, 2010 08:32 PM         

anyone can experience true love.

Anyway, progressions show some developments, a process.

But to me above all they bring dormant natal aspects into the spotlight. In that way they are similiar to transits.

We have so many aspects in our charts, but they are not all equally strong at the same time. It`s like progressions and transists illuminate certain areas of our charts.

I was actually surprised to learn that I really could feel the changing of signs of my ASC, Moon and Sun. but I did.

The natal chart is your underlying basics, unchangeable, the progressed placements will add another nuance, but only for a time, as they ARe changing.

posted November 13, 2010 08:41 PM         

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anyone can experience true love.

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I know, I was just being facetious again. Thanks for the explanation though, it makes much more sense to me now.