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Ihab
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posted December 14, 2010 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ihab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was kinda surprised to see so many threads here complaining about Pisces Men.. In a way, it did help me know myself better.I am not much into Horoscope but I definately have a liking for the Psychological Horoscope of Signs.

I discovered this site because of my sister, since she does read this forum once in a while. She showed me some thread about Pisces Men being such escapists in love and had a great time teasing me about it. I got a little curious and read some more threads on this forum. All I can say is that I am genuinely surprised as I could relate to 90%+ of the things written about Pisces. Well, kinda obvious since I am a pisces.

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Ihab
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posted December 14, 2010 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ihab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
If your comforatable with it, you can give ur DOB
place of birth..

time of birth if known.. ur chart will be more accurate if its known...

You can then delete the info, once your chart is posted.. We are trustworthy.. lol


Is there any site where I could go and get my chart done? I am not sure if I want to post accurate details. You know how to get charts or something? I could give you my details in some sort of a private message or something. Is there a feature like that on this site?

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posted December 14, 2010 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ninety Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Newbie here....


I love the Pisces gentleness and kind heart. You guys being stereotypical. As Scorpio woman I tell you I am NOT possessive, jealous or sexed up.......if you are really into astrology you can never judge a person with his Sun sign, I am Scorpio and in-love with a Gemini man but guess what his moon is Pisces here is one of our complement.....I hate most Gemini characteristics according to astrology but guess what I had/have more friends among Gems...they really rule....

you see... you have to look in to other planets in the chart and as far as relationship connections between their planets......... my ex husband was Pisces I left him but he is still in a corner of my heart somewhere after 20 years......

and I think Pisces rule too.....

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Lioness
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posted December 14, 2010 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ihab:
Is there any site where I could go and get my chart done? I am not sure if I want to post accurate details. You know how to get charts or something? I could give you my details in some sort of a private message or something. Is there a feature like that on this site?


No there is no feature like that here.. You can create an astro acct, create a chart and save it on, photobucket.. Then copy the link..

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Ihab
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posted December 14, 2010 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ihab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart -

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Lioness
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posted December 14, 2010 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shux... Not like my pisces... lol

You have Aries so your not as passive as other Pisces..

Let me ask you? You like the chase and once you get it, your out.. Plus the Sag. Asc..
You actually have alot of fire.. Only ur Sun is in water..

HEY your NN exactaly conjuncts mine...

I wonder what do you like more.. The girls chasing you, are you chasing them? Im assuming you like the challenge more.

All I have to say is watch out for us Leo's Leo is your 8th house....

Ever date a Leo before? I bet you have...

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posted December 14, 2010 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lhab,

The Venus/Saturn/Jupiter t-square in your chart is the likely culprit. Venus/Saturn feels unlovable and will create situations of distance, Venus/Jupiter has high ideals in love and the combination of the 3 can point to disaster based on ill-placed romantic idealization to stave off a sense of insecurity.

Like I said, there is more than 1 marker for it, and it's best to look at the individual charts.

If you take this energy and work with it in a more constructive way you will get better results in your life. So it's not the end of things. You have to be open to change, your ideals and also develop a better view of yourself. They both need to be changed.

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Ihab
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posted December 14, 2010 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ihab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lioness

Your posts was one of the reasons why I joined LL. You being a leo complaining about a Pisces guy reminded me of this Leo girl with whom I had a little "special" friendship. Few years ago, I used to be friends with this leo girl. I think I did like her a little bit but never gave it any importance. She used to have a Boyfriend anyways. We became quite close after her boyfriend broke up with her due to some personal reasons. So, she was quite depressed over it. She started sharing stuff with me since I was one of the few who knew about her BF and also because I was a good listener. We grew quite close because of that. I liked listening to her and helping her when it comes to emotional problems. She used to talk about her ex and I used to give her advices over how she could get back and all. Then few months later, she started dating a close friend of mine and I.. just left.

During our close friendship, she gave me alot of hints to be more than "just friends". (You know us Pisces.. We can't be fooled when it comes to "feelings") She used to talk about how she liked me, liked talking to me, how I am such a trustable friend etc. I knew very well what she was getting at. I did like her honestly but I just didn't want to get into relationship. I valued the close friendship and I just didn't want it to get ruined or anything. So, everytime I would reply with a calm "Thanks". Thats it. And I normally used to get scared at those points of conversation even though I would smile thinking about it later.

She used to have a crush on one of my close friends prior to our friendship and I knew about it. I always teased her about how she should just forget her BF and start dating my close friend. And then slowly I started to get my close friend and her talking. All three of us use to hangout and I use to take a backseat in conversations so that both of them could talk more. I also stopped talking frequently to this leo friend so that she starts talking more to my friend. I honestly don't know why I was doing this. So, months later, she started dating my close friend and I.. just disappeared. I didn't talk to her after that for like 1 and a half year. Before she started dating, I had this little chat with her about how I found her a little "changed" in the last few weeks. That was it. After that I completely stopped talking. This was 5 years ago.. I did talk to her a couple of times in between but nothing more.

I had always been confused about why I did this, whether I liked her, what exactly I wanted. I did think about it in between. But after reading your posts and others on LL, I found out many things which possibly might be the answers to my questions. Like how we pisces guys are attracted to people who need help or are depressed, how we like being "saviours" and giving advices, how we are confused about feelings, how we are scared to burst the "bubble" etc. But what I realized is that though I did like her, I just didnt want anything in return. This is why I started the topic "Unrequited Love". Somebody here asked me whether I meant liking someone who is already taken or not able to be in relationship due to circumstances. For me its all mixed. I liked her, I didn't exactly want to be in a physical relationship (during our friendship for months, I barely touched her. I used to hesitate about a hug too. Maybe because I am too shy or because I am a little too "gentleman" type), I didnt need anything in return and also, the main thing is it is me who created circumstances or like a wall between us.

The thing is that I still like her a little bit but once again dont want anything to be done about it. Lets say if tomorrow she comes up and says "Yep. I stil like you. Lets date", I would get scared and would once again look for escaping.

Hence i started the topic for "unrequited" love. I have noticed how I am not a fan of romantic movies but I do like unrequited love track like how it was in "Finding Neverland" or how it was in "Secret of their eyes". Maybe I like being like this. I do consider myself a "loser" in love department and crack jokes with my sis about how I would get dumped within a week.

I have never ever told anyone about this. Not even my close friends who still wonder what happened and dont even bother asking me since they know I am quite secretive about it.

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posted December 14, 2010 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.. I thank you for taking the time to write that.. That was really cool..

I can see alot of similarities with your story verses mine. Only I havent dated a friend.. BUT he thinks I was seeing someone else at the same time as him.. But its not true..

Just curious but was your friend that she dated, is he a Gemini?

Which post of mine was it that made you join?

As for me and pisces, we date for a bit.. It really wasnt that big of a deal, when we dated.. I have had way better relationships.. but for some strange reason I just cant let him go..
We talk now more than we did when we dated.. He rarely called me when we dated.. Once we ended it.. I felt really really horrible. Even though it was mutual... He called me that night, and we talked as if we never went out... We went back and fourth talking not talking.. Both of us pulling away, then going back.. This has been going on like this for a year..
At one point he did tell me that he knows he could never have me.... I stayed completely silent.. I couldnt even say a word.. (hey I got pisces also..lol) I froze.. He just said I have to go, and hung up the phone...

We have become closer, and I do go to him with problems, but he also comes to me.. We just trust each other... He is a very important person in my life.. but he drives me crazy also...

One day I did ask him why we are friends.. (he HATES questions) bc it doesnt make sense, since its out of character for both of us. He said well bc I am really comfortable talking to you, and I do feel a special bond with you...
Again I froze not saying anything...

I do know he feels that I know him well.. Only Im not so sure, bc asking him questions is very hard.. He wants me just to know, but at the same time it causes confusion.. Sometimes I just need some clarity from him..

He has also told me, that he doesnt want to ruin the friendship, bc we are so close... He likes me because I dont "trip" on him...

I do know I boost his confidence. but I feel mostly rejection from him..

Sometimes I feel like why even be friends.. Whats the point.. I have told him several times, that I was done talking to him... Feeling extremely rejected.. Which makes me feel even worse.. But when I dont talk to him I feel very sad, and lost...
IDK heck he did to me... lol

ADD..
oo.. and I know he knows, what I feel.. I know he knows I know what he feels.. But I know he doesnt understand things, but neither do I.. I know he just cant, only I dont know why.
I feel since he knows how I feel, he should come to me.... But I know he wont...

LMAO... omg did that make any sense at all???

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted December 14, 2010 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lioness - It would be the Neptune person who felt the unrequited love unless both persons Neptunes were involved, neptune in the 1st/7th, on the asc/des axis, and strong personal planet aspects to neptune would all have tendencies towards romantic love

I noticed Ihab has a mercury square neptune aspect, this would account for difficulties in direct communication despite having planets in aries and if the birth time is right you have mercury in the 3rd (the house that can represent communication), so whilst mercury is in a good place in this chart it has problems coming from Neptune in the 1st in capricorn, (the first is our outward appearance)

You could always use music...give them songs to play that describe how you feel?

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posted December 14, 2010 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Pisces Venus and I can relate. I only ever was sure I loved a guy because it was unrequited.

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Lioness
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posted December 14, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
@Lioness - It would be the Neptune person who felt the unrequited love unless both persons Neptunes were involved, neptune in the 1st/7th, on the asc/des axis, and strong personal planet aspects to neptune would all have tendencies towards romantic love

I noticed Ihab has a mercury square neptune aspect, this would account for difficulties in direct communication despite having planets in aries and if the birth time is right you have mercury in the 3rd (the house that can represent communication), so whilst mercury is in a good place in this chart it has problems coming from Neptune in the 1st in capricorn, (the first is our outward appearance)

You could always use music...give them songs to play that describe how you feel?



Yeah we have both ways Neptune contacts.. I do feel that he cares, but at the same time I feel he doesnt.. I have a deep fear of rejection with him, like never before...

I also have problems speaking out, but its because my Saturn in Gem in H3.. Add to the Pisces asc and venus in cancer... Its very hard for me to say my feelings to anyone.. I feel blocked expressing any type of emotions. I rarely fess feelings for anyone..
Even when I was married, I found it hard..

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posted December 14, 2010 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a relationship with strongly Neptunian person, too.
It is very weird for me,a strong Gemini.
It forces you to use your primal instincts as the language of communication.
Do you ,guys, agree?

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posted December 14, 2010 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ami anne - Oh I totally know what you mean. It's like sometimes I just know I need to shut up around Pisces and that just feeling something around them will be enough comfort or disapproval and that they will pick up on it. It's very hard for me, because I am so verbal.

My first "boyfriend" ever was this rebel Pisces and honestly we just fought the whole time.

My second encounter with Pisces was when I was in a relationship (long distance - and this is the only time I've ever cheated and I'm so ashamed of it, which is probably why it was so short) and HE was in a relationship too. We met a couple of times at this club through mutual friends and add a ton of alcohol and lots of mutual staring at each other and god - his eyes just melted me, it was a very unusual attraction I must say. I still am not sure about what happened. Anyway.. back to the story! He was in a long distance relationship as well and he had pictures of his girlfriend all over his place along with other pictures of stuff and I was a little disconcerted from having sex with a dude and seeing a girl's face that I'd never met and was screwing around with her boyfriend. We made love a couple of times. Met again the next week - did it again. And we would talk and we sometimes went out, but it was too awkward sometimes since I wasn't sure how to deal with someone like him. And then I reminded him about my boyfriend (I had told him at the beginning) and he like freaked out and was like "You have a boyfriend?" and he got all ****** and then started acting like I was some horrible person. I got ****** since it was so hypocritical and I went to leave because I just don't put up with that crap. And then he likes run back after me and tries to bring me back, but I wasn't having any of it and to be honest his anger kind of freak me out because it seemed to come out of nowhere. I went home and then I continued to see him at clubs and he would look at me and stuff, he always watched me, but I did my best to try and ignore him. And then I moved and I've never seen him again.

The third Pisces I met through friends - again he came and kissed me and then we talked a lot and he was like enamoured with me - But I think he might have had some Aquarius in his chart because he was much more communicative. It was a very short fling and only for one night - we didn't even have sex, but we became friends. He was actually one of the only Pisces men I could stand.

Of course half my chart is in Gemini/Sag so I just figure Pisces men are not meant to be since for the most part, we end up fighting (the women too actually) and I don't like dealing with drama which Pisces (in my experience) so often bring to any kind of situation.

I often wonder about the Second Pisces's chart because it was such an intense meeting and why he got so possessive even though he had another girlfriend.

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posted December 14, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@lioness
you should check both your 9th harmonic charts and see what is going on there, ttreat them like you would a natal, if it's a really significant relationship for you then you'll find missing answers in the 9th, and check those of previous significant others...you'll see what I mean.

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posted December 14, 2010 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I will...
but do I do my natal to his Harmonic and visa versa..

Or harmonic to harmonic?

and put it together in a synastry style.

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posted December 14, 2010 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the composite we do have Neptune conjunct Dsc line.
Composite Neptune
Trines Venus
sextiles the moon/pluto conjunction.
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I have been looking at Harmonic to Harmonic..

I can see why we understand each other.. His Pisces Stellium moves into Aries. My Leo Stellium stays in Leo..
Alot of trines.

My Neptune conjuncts his Asc
His Neptune/Mercury conjuncts my MC
My mars opps his venus
His Chiron is on my SN
My Chiron sq his NN
moon trine moon
my mars conjuncts his vertex
my venus trines his pluto..
my pluto conjuncts his neptune/mercury
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Wait.... I was looking at mine.. what is the meaning of the 9th Harmonic anyways??

I have
Sun conjunct NN and Chiron
venus conjunct vertex
vertex trine mars


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posted December 14, 2010 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to fess up...but I can certaintly relate lol. I have my Neptune loosely opp my Sun and my Asc. And I can relate to idealizing love and relationships. It doesn't help that I have Pluto aspects that make me obsess lol. I think its not so much a matter that I want what I can't have exactly, buts its a matter of if I were to get it the person wouldn't live up to my expectations. I would discover the flaws and then it would be hard to be with them. Plus and this sounds really weird, I can't be 100% sexually "wild" with. I dont' know if that makes any sense. I also think that my IC in Virgo doesn't help with me finding flaws in guys. But basically I have VERY strict standards of what I like in a guy and what I don't. And I can date someone I have luke warm feelings for, but someone I'm crazy about I'll run away. For fear...what if they leave, or what if other things.

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posted December 15, 2010 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the 9th harmoinc is said to represent the marriage partner in vedic astrology...the ones we really do connect with at different levels of awareness, it is also said to be the "spiritual" essence of us or the part of us that just has to be played out in life somehow, the effects of the 9th harmonic in reality are very subtle but it is brought into stronger awareness through transist,

if you have natal planets that affect your 9th harmonic it could mean you find it easier to access this part of yourself.

I think it is moses siregar that says not to compare different harmonic charts but I have found that there are strong connections between the (his)natal and (your) 9th and vice versa

and also the natal composite and the 9th harmonic charts of the two people involved but I wouldn't compare the 9th to the 6th for example, I messed around and did a composite of the 9th harmonic charts and also found some eye openers..but that was a pain the a*se because I had to work it out in my head..but worthwhile if you're obsessed about someone lol

The 9th harmonic is linked to the novile aspect

link to moses(astrology for the soul) http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/qyzh.html

bob marks - says its the way to joy and peace http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/harmonics32.1.html

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posted December 15, 2010 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lhab - I was curious whether you ever miss people?
I have Pisces/Neptune influence myself and I noticed that I seldom seriously miss someone. The reason is - I feel as though everyone is always around in spirit in a sense whether they are physically alive or dead.
Due to this I have occasionally forgotten to contact friends and answer emails/calls. Everyone seems to take this the wrong way. But from my perspective if I am close to someone they are always there in my thoughts and I don't need to be in constant contact.

I noticed the same thing happens with Pisces men. Except when this happens in a romantic situation, the other person often gets hurt.

Sometimes a Pisces guy will drift off even if he is still very much in love, even if he is married w. kids in a committed relationship - He'll just go off somewhere on a dream boat... And from his perspective the woman he cares about is always in his heart, always *with* him, so he doesn't miss her.. but from her perspective he hurt and betrayed her for leaving (even if he comes back later on).

Many things seems arbitrary to Pisces. Do you agree?
TIME is arbitrary - What's 10 years here or there?
What's the difference between having sex with a person for 10 years and dreaming about sex with a person for 10 years (never actually seeing them)?
They are just not fussed. Whatever happens, happens and you can go with the flow of events, trusting that things progress and change the way they do - for a reason.

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posted December 15, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BettyBoop

I think Ihab swam away..........

but not to worry Im sure he will be back..

lol

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posted December 16, 2010 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ihab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Just curious but was your friend that she dated, is he a Gemini?

Which post of mine was it that made you join?


He is a Libra. And I think the post was "Pisces Men.. Again" something like that. Also, I did read your comments on other threads where you expressed problems about this Pisces guy.


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posted December 16, 2010 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ihab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Betty Boop

Yes I do miss people but very rarely. I agree to most of your points there. I don't mind if I don't talk to a person for 1 month or something.. I will still stay close despite not being in touch. I don't need frequent communication. Also, I don't like fussy things like "Why didn't you call all these days/Why didn't you message all these days".

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posted December 16, 2010 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Betty Boop,

That's interesting you say that about not missing people and forgetting to contact friends.

I have a few good pisces friends, and they are terrible with calls and emails. But when we do talk, even if its months it's like no time has gone by.

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posted December 17, 2010 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces Sun/Taurus Moon

I've always run from relationships when they get too heated.

Except with my most recent relationship with a Taurus Sun/Pisces moon, I find myself still scared of the depths, but wanting to go there with her.

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