posted January 08, 2011 09:09 PM            

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 08, 2011 09:12 PM            

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 08, 2011 09:12 PM            

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 08, 2011 09:27 PM            

Juni put up a very interesting site that captured some of his myspace posts:
http://animalnewyork.com/2011/0 1/arizona-shooters-myspace-page/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+animalnewyork+(ANIMAL)

This is what he was looking at when he visited Midwayusa.com
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=116453

and then if you follow his dates of his posts, you can see how he started talking about "my shot is ready for the aim".... on the 30th of December. We have no idea if he ordered that magazine (holds 33 rounds).

I would bet that his chart has more to do with commiting the violence than Giffords chart for receiving it (just in my opinion).

There is another site- I have to find the link again- that features a highschool friend that noted that when Loughner met Giffords he said she was "stupid and unintelligent".

This article gives a bit more background on the shooter. http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-jared-lee-loughner-profile,0,3468158.story

posted January 08, 2011 09:38 PM            

Thank you for starting this thread. I think it is important to look into events, from all points of view, especially since it helps us to try and make sense of things.

****.. Oh.. Pima college just put out information in regards to his time at the school. He had 5 contacts with the PCC campus police for disruptions and voluntarily withdrew from the school in October (he had previously faced suspension from the school).

What I don't understand is how this kid has so many red flags from issues with the police, withdrawing from his highschool after alcohol poisoning, getting rejected from the Military and then almost getting suspended- a sort of forced "voluntary withdrawal from college" and his myspace was littered with threats. He was even arrested twice.

posted January 08, 2011 09:49 PM            

Victim, Judge John Roll...

posted January 08, 2011 10:34 PM            

But.. I am cautious about the bday only because it is not listed in the court records and one record has him listed as being born in 1930 with a stop sign violation occuring in 2007.
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx

Great link though PS- It has a ton of information about his youtube information and some of his comments.

posted January 08, 2011 10:53 PM            

I think added to that the energy of Neptune (Capricorn) square Mercury (Libra) and squaring Mars (Aries) forming a T-square contributes to a possible inclination towards delusional thinking. He was facinated with dreams/ conscious dreaming in order to promote his political "business" put it. Could his Moon trine Neptune also be confusing that T-square?

There are other negative and positive aspects, but I am just looking at some of the natal ones that jump out at me.

transit wise- he has tSaturn conjuncting his Mercury- setting off that T-square while tPluto on Capricorn is sitting on his Neptune (also contributing to the vibrations).

it itself- Saturn squaring Pluto is not a fun place to be in (I had the tSaturn opposing tPluto in Sag configuration with my Sun in the middle about 6 years ago and it was some crazy cosmic sandwich).

So.. to me, and I may be wrong- but we have Saturn and Pluto squaring each other, setting off Mercury and Neptune.. which just so happen to natally oppose (which means tSaturn opposing his nMars) and square (tPluto) his natal Mars in Aries..

posted January 08, 2011 11:02 PM            

When I went through a Pluto conjunct Neptune transit, I was very ill and became very religiously devoted... very quiet, very soft-hearted...

Then, I was plowed over a very destructive person...

Basically, it was a time of very personal "testing" of my spirituality, in many different ways... leaving behind a changed view of spirituality - and I'm thankful to STILL have my beliefs, because it came very close to taking that all away.

posted January 08, 2011 11:34 PM            

In any case, I was told by other minority students to "let it go" and that they had the same experience. I couldn't let it go. If I did, I would just be allowing the same thing to happen to someone else. It challenged my identity. It made me question so many things and when I talked to my father he told me that is why he discouraged me from going to school in OR.

I challenged the idiots. I went to the top people of the University and they were suspended, their free rides were reduced (they had to pay a portion to stay in) and I was hated for about a good year or so. BUT, they never did that crap again and the school / sports department held the athletes to a better standard after that. By my SR year, I was not hated but instead had people on my side, with the exception of some of the lamo new females that wanted the attention of the jocks (I should also say, that I was friends with the jocks and dated a few LOL... the ones that went after me were ticked because I rejected them, but I never cared).

So.. it worked out but not without the pain that came with it. I had been brought up in a biracial family in Southern Cali (Laguna Hills) that accepted people for what they were and didn't care about a brown person with a white person. I could have left school to return to the sister Uni in California but I didn't- mainly because my dad said "I never wanted you to go up there because I was afraid this would happen. Now that you are there, you have to make a difference. You have to stand up for yourself".