posted January 09, 2011 05:15 PM            

I have probably let many people who I 'liked' slip through the net as I could not get enough reassurance that they liked me, so the wall stayed up. We are desperate to connect emotionally, but it is all or nothing. Once you've earned the trust, we will not leave your side (metaphorically, we really like our own space!!).

posted January 10, 2011 11:48 AM            

If a Scorpio is getting laid, and I'm not talking loving connection, emotional transcendance. Just with someone, maybe friends with benefits, would it make a Scorpio a little more slower in moving on to another person, who's perhaps more better matched?

Would a Scorpio hold off pursuing a relationship, if they had someone to relieve them of their sexual needs?

posted January 10, 2011 02:17 PM            

edit: oh yes, scorpio guys are sooo much more feminine than the girls (similar to the physical appearance of the aquarius's, only its behavior)...the scorpio guy i dated's favorite color was pink and whenever he played games he played as a female character...on Super Smash Bros, on D&D, Soul Calibur, all of them games

posted January 10, 2011 05:02 PM            

I wouldn't get embarrassed with that comment. I would probably give him a sexy eye flutter for saying it.

posted January 11, 2011 05:02 AM            

Scorpios are generally a lot more shy and timid than they are made out to be. Those with a Fire ASC, Moon, or Mars tend to the the more gutsy/outspoken type. Those with a Sag, Cancer, or Pisces Moon or ASC have been completely approachable and not intimidating at all in my experience -- and they smile a lot too. Haven't met any, but I bet those with Libra placements would be the same.

Those with earth placements tend to have walls up that are much harder to knock down and get to know them better. Mixed with wind, more social and "open" about their secrets.(in their own coded way) Definitely not afraid to mingle at social events instead of hanging out away from the crowd observing people and watching others from a corner.

Most Scorpios are mysterious to others because scorpios carry around a LOT of fear. They are usually considered fearless...well...maybe when standing up for what they believe in, but actually letting a person get to know the real them scares the hell out of them. Especially if they think you will use this information against them. Or that you won't like the "real" them. The tests, mind games, disappearing acts, or short answers that don't really answer your questions are just ways of saying "I have severe trust issues and I'm terrified of you". Unless of course if they don't like you, it's because they do not feel you are privileged to such information to get to know them better.

One thing they all have in common. Talk about something they believe in strongly, except make a statement that smacks of something they find to be fake or incorrect. They will have to do everything in their power to not try to correct you or tell you why you are wrong. Especially if they are just getting to know you this will be especially painful for them as they try to grit their teeth and not say something that would make you not like them if they are interested. It will drive them crazy not being able to tear down what they see is your fake version or reality, and give you a huge dose of what they consider to be the "truth" on the matter.

Even an outgoing Sag with a Scorp Venus makes them terrified of rejection. It's even worse when paired with a Scorp Sun. They try to get you to come to them. They act surprised when you follow their "clues" or hints as if they don't have the hots for you, then turn around after they figured you out and it's "safe" to finally "seal the deal". This prevents humiliation. The more they like you the worse it is. They can watch for you a couple of years wishing they could say something to you, but never make a move.

Scorpios can be sexual, but their mars sign is key to finding out how they are sexual.(especially if a male) A scorpio mars even not coupled with a Scorpio Sun blows a regular Scorpio Sun to smithereens in the sex drive department. Seriously, most sexual placement ever! One guy who has this told me he "wasn't this way at all!!!", and it turns out -- good God -- he definitely is.(found another profile of him on another site after he told me this) In a scary kind of way. I don't think I could ever believe a scorp mars if they ever told me that again.

posted January 11, 2011 07:17 AM            

It hit the spot on SO many levels.

I knew Scorpio was more fear than secretive. This explains a heck of a lot.

I'd be afraid to show my true self, if I couldn't control my emotions. THey have their emotions controlled to a science.

posted January 11, 2011 08:43 AM            

Maddi, thanks for the compliments as well. They do have a lot of fear, but just don't make the excuses I did for one in particular. I felt sorry for him and his sob stories and that allowed him to take advantage of me.(he had a scorp sun, scorp merc, scorp venus and mars(conjunct), and pluto in the eighth, cancer moon) If someone is doing anything whether emotional physical that hurts -- back away if they don't stop. Nothing astrological can excuse that kind of behavior. We all have free will in the end. Their survival instinct is VERY strong though, and the less spiritually evolved ones will sacrifice you in the end to protect themselves. This is why you have to be careful if they show the warning signs and not make excuses for them or learn the hard way. However, the completely opposite scenario will occur if they are spiritually evolved scorp and truly love you. They won't even have to think about it.

It's just that Scorpios can come on strong like they are looking for love exclusively with you while still obsessing about their Ex the entire time.(and like any men no matter what sign, just using you for sex or to ease their loneliness) Or they can be cool as ice while every time they see you they are torn up inside wishing what it was like to be closer to you. And when they show their vulnerable side, like a whining dog you can reach out to pet and comfort them. You can tell how bad they just need to be loved, but they they turn right around and sink their teeth in and scurry away to a dark corner. Too many people get hooked into this system and will learn in the end, unless that person decides to change, this cycle will never end. And you'll keep trying to no avail and no "payoff" waiting for a better tomorrow that never comes. It's not about "proving" you are faithful to them and passing the tests; this person's own insecurity is to blame. And the only person that can change that is themselves.

Despite the fear though, Scorpios do consider themselves survivors, and maybe it's just how they tell you the stories of their past, but I think it's well deserved reputation for the sign in the end. Scorpios, even the asc and moon, seem to have some experiences that raise the hair on my body and give me chills down my spine. I think they run into these intense/traumatic situations as a catalyst for their own soul growth/development which is why they have a strong dose of Plutonic energy in their own charts this lifetime.

And they are very much in control(of their out of control lol) emotions. And they secretly desire to control or possess their partner too. Did you know if you make a ring of fire around a scorpion it will sting itself to death? Completely true. That should be a clue to all of us just how powerful their will is to be in control of their own life, their emotions, and the people that matter most to them. If they feel out of control, and their vulnerability completely exposed or humiliated, they will self-destruct rather than keep on going if they have to submit or no longer feel like its possible to be in charge of their own destiny.

BTW, this music may not be everyone's cup of tea, but this is the epitome of what I consider Plutonic love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmfn4uRtIxk

posted January 11, 2011 09:00 AM            

IF a Scorpio lets you in,you have a prize of inesteemable value.
You will have to earn it by fire BUT what are cheap things worth ,anyway

posted January 11, 2011 09:20 AM            

As far as your statement that they are cool as ice on the surface, yet pine for you. I sometimes see him fighting with himself, figuratively. He'll just be standing there, thinking. Turning his head from one side to another. Welcoming me with the most tender look, then turning it off and ignoring me completely, as if I'm not even there.

posted January 11, 2011 09:23 AM            

Ah, self-destruction

I am the one and only Master of my life and my destiny. No one owes me anything nor do I owe anything to anyone. If I cannot be who I am, true to my own self, I would martyr myself than submit to what is not the truth.

- Me

posted January 11, 2011 09:33 AM            

I was afraid of the standing alone that a Scorpio must do.
It is the exact opposite of a Gemini,in a way.
I have Gem Sun,Merc and Venus.

Gemini flourishes in a group.
Scorpio stands by it's principles and NEVER gives in to a group,any group,if it compromises it's own integrity.

Scorpio energy is still really scary to me,quite frankly.

However,I am ,gingerly, trying it on as a coat.
It is my ASC and ,as such,I must wear it if I am to protect myself from the cold.

posted January 11, 2011 09:45 AM            

I have Cap Ris, and for the longest time, just couldn't accept that as my "coat" but the more I pay attention to myself (not hard for aries, a bit harder for Cap) I see the veil being lifted.

posted January 11, 2011 09:58 AM            

You know what is VERY pitiful? A Scorpio who does not take his/her own power.
It truly becomes the lowest forms of Scorpio,the scorpion.

I became that.I stung myself.It doesn't matter who you sting.
You are still the lowest form of Scorpio.

Scorpio allows you to rise above,always.
You must claim it's power like Dorothy.
She always had the red shoes with which to go home.
She just did not know it.

posted January 11, 2011 10:20 AM            

Now, she's focusing on her Scorpio moon and trying to hone in on her Scorp skills.

Just read as much as you can, and try to focus on what things about you need that extra bit of effort to shine thru.

posted January 11, 2011 10:26 AM            

"Would a Scorpio hold off pursuing a relationship, if they had someone to relieve them of their sexual needs"

posted January 11, 2011 10:31 AM            

No hurt feelings, Yes this is true for me. It is a natural expression, stemming from a need of secrecy.

"They are usually considered fearless...well...maybe when standing up for what they believe in, but actually letting a person get to know the real them scares the hell out of them."

With this its just like with every other thing, What is the motivating factor in my actions.

posted January 11, 2011 10:33 AM            

PS Maddi,I get the sense that he DOES like you.You ,just, feel befuddled in how to deal with his signals.
If you get clarity,you should be able to go forward.
I have the feeling he is worth it.