posted January 11, 2011 10:59 AM            

I think this is meant to happen for some people, I think it to be a karmic cycle in which the two (or whatever situation) involved are to learn something.

posted January 11, 2011 11:07 AM            

Scorpio must control not only the people and the circumstances surrounding their information sharing, but the potential outcomes of shared information as well...

I think this is truly the sign of a deeply sensitive and delicate ego of a water sign.

Another good presentation in nature of Scorpion tendency is how they spend their lives under rocks, thrive in darkness, and prefer to drag things with them into the abyss...

Kinda spooky if you ask me.

posted January 11, 2011 11:13 AM            

Asc is a lens in my view that filters the soul.
In my case its a scorpio soul filtered by a virgo asc.

The essence of scorpio is filtered by virgo, The world is filtered by virgo to my essence.

Scorpio-->Virgo-->World
World-->Virgo-->Scorpio

The start and the end are more Intense than the middle.

posted January 11, 2011 11:22 AM            

When in fact, many people can simply connect dots and put together senarios and readily available information to come to a fairly accurate view of any given situation.

Scorpio must BELIEVE that they are in control of their lives and secrets... only choosing to address certain subjects when they are comfortable... if they are EVER COMFORTABLE (which may not happen, at all).

It's interesting to me how many Scorpios (represented by the most severe, tyrannical, ultimately unwavering bringer of change - PLUTO) hold onto their own karmic lessons that they refuse to learn to the bitter death.

Many times have I seen Scorpio, gifted with KEEN INSIGHT, absolutely REFUSE to deal with deep and dangerous personal habits or traumatic circumstances, behaviors, etc. Instead of dealing with the larger issue, they will put "on a show" around the problem and carry on acting as if all is normal, and BELIEVING that everyone is ignorant and taking the bait.

posted January 11, 2011 11:26 AM            

Hi Ami,

I have never had/used/or wanted a facebook or a myspace page. I have my friends in life that i keep up with via phone, or that I just go see in person as I really prefer that over anything else.

Plus I really do find something disturbing about putting so much personal information in a public domain no matter what promises of security are made to me. If a person is motivated enough they can get by whatever security measures that are in place.

posted January 11, 2011 11:27 AM            

Um, Fire signs usually can. Even nikkig said she wont mess with them.

My best friend is a sag. No bs relationship.

posted January 11, 2011 11:30 AM            

PS OK MBlake
I respect your outlook!

posted January 11, 2011 11:39 AM            

I make him feel uncomfortable (his words out of the blue) but other than that we are cool.

Now on the other hand when I first met my sag friend in 99, He called me on ever BS thing I said and did, Then went out for movies or eating.. Lots of eating.. damn. That is what I like about Sag's, they will still be your friend.

I have only known a few Leo's personally, I spent alot of time with a leo friend from 2002 to around 2005.

posted January 11, 2011 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
When in fact, many people can simply connect dots and put together senarios and readily available information to come to a fairly accurate view of any given situation.

Um, Fire signs usually can. Even nikkig said she wont mess with them.

My best friend is a sag. No bs relationship.

*Edit, this is my personaly experience only.

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Honestly, it's definitely a difficult mix, Fire signs + Scorpio...

Fire Sign: So, what are you doing with such and such situation?

Scorpio: <silently seething, says nothing>

Or,

Fire Sign: I love doing such and such thing (when in reality they are terrified)

Scorpio: (flashes that look of insight towards the fire sign, saying nothing)

Fire Sign: F*ck off!

Fire signs are very blunt, and prefer to directly handle situations casually... however, we have our own personal demons, and Scorpio is very good at picking them out and force feeding them back to us

(personal experience here)

Scorpios are tied to their own emotions and the seriousness of many circumstances, they also tend to "handle" things in a more methodical fashion.

It's just sort of a lack of similar courtesy I think, or maybe an ability to empathize with someone who behaves so differently.

posted January 11, 2011 11:59 AM            

When Scorpios act, it is always with intention, whereas fire signs are less concerned with outcome and do things somewhat thoughtlessly and impulsively... we have EGO, but we're not always planning our next move.

Scorpio doesn't like to lose out on an invested relationship. They have all senarios planned out before they move.

posted January 11, 2011 12:13 PM            

Not necessarily. No. As seen by the divorce rate, just kidding

However, I do believe that Scorpios tend to avoid being in uncomfortable situations with people who behave in unwanted "direct" or "invasive" ways... Fire signs do that by nature.

posted January 11, 2011 12:15 PM            

PS, Would an uninformed (meaning doesn't study astrology) Scorpio just sense that about Fire?

posted January 11, 2011 12:19 PM            

PS, Would an uninformed (meaning doesn't study astrology) Scorpio just sense that about Fire?

posted January 11, 2011 12:36 PM            

I can be a bit direct and "In your face"

It could be my Mercury in Scorpio conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Mars Nodes
square the Mars/Node midpoint

my Sun,Mars,and Pluto are in a golden section aspect to each other with a corresponding Pluto square Sun/Mars midpoint

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 11, 2011 12:42 PM            

Yeah. But, mostly Scorpios are most direct within their comfort zones.

posted January 11, 2011 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Scorp31:
PS-Agreed; I can be very direct when the situation calls for it but as far as "mouthing off" is not my style. Besides I find I can communicate just as effectively with a look as I can verbally.

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And, that non-verbal communication is awesome. I have to compliment you on that ability, for sure

posted January 11, 2011 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Glaucus,

Yeah. But, mostly Scorpios are most direct within their comfort zones.

And, I very rarely see Scorpios "mouthing off".

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I was known for mouthing off. I got in trouble with my parents and the navy because of that.

My Mars in Aquarius is traditional dispositor of my Sun,Mercury,and Venus

I was known being a hothead.

I'd look intensely,passionately with my eyes with my body shaking too

I also always had a thing for making rebuttals,retorts (my parents referred to it as getting smart) or being sassy

If there is one fictional character I can think of
Miles Falworth from the book, Men of Iron
he was known to be rather impudent because of his mouthing off to people of higher rank than him

My Sun is conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node,Geocentric North Eris Node oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Nodes
and Eris is an energy that is about not going with the status quo and can make Uranus look tame

If planets,points are between
around 4 1/2 degrees to 6 1/2 degrees Scorpio, they will be conjunct the Geocentric,Heliocentric South Eris Nodes in Scorpio

if planets,points are between around 17 degrees Scorpio and 21 degrees Scorpio, they will be conjunct the Geocentric,Heliocentric South Mars Nodes in Scorpio

conjunction to Sun is most significant, it would mean that Earth is conjunct its opposite Node in the Heliocentric chart (Higher Self).

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 11, 2011 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Then you are the exception, Glaucus.

I have met a few Sagittarius/Scorpio combinations that mouth off - but they tend to "use" their mouthing off for some sort of attention, gain, control, fear-mongering, etc. etc. And, in that way I can see how it suits both "Scorpio" and "Saggy" motivations.

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it was never about attention,gain,control,fear mongering

It was totally different

it was more like standing up for myself, my being impulsive, passionate, and having that "you don't own me..I am not your slave"

the latter was a mentality that I had with people that weren't my parents and superiors like people telling me what to do, and they weren't parents or supervisors........like ordinary people don't like what I say or type, so they tell me to shut up.

My Mercury is biquintile Eris with just 6 minutes of arc. Biquintiles and quintiles aren't necessarily subtle.

Robert Hand said that the quality of those 5th harmonic aspects is similar to that associated with Pluto, with overtones of Venus and Mars: some concrete creation or destruction is effected.

my Mercury is also conjunct Beta Libra star, Zuben Elschamali aka Northern Scales. The name actually means Northern Scorpion Claw. It is said to have a Mercury-Mars-Jupiter influence. Bernadette Brady said that it has to do with social reform, but it might involve a personal reason.

My Venus is conjunct Alpha Serpens star, Unukalhai. Unukalhai is said to be the neck of the serpent. It is said to have a Mars-Saturn influence. It was thought to be a malefic star.

both my Mercury and Venus are aspected stars with a Mars influence

my Venus in Scorpio in 3rd house square Mars in Aquarius in 6th. My Mercury in Scorpio is conjunct Venus,and so my Mercury is tied in there even though I don't have Mercury square Mars. It's a wide square of 8 degrees which is actually a triundecile and part of 11th harmonic configuration of Mercury,Mars,Saturn,Uranus,Sedna,Ascendant.

11th harmonic is thought to have a 11th house/Aquarius/Uranian influence with its emphasis on rebellion,instability,social consciousness,and affinity with technology/computers

also....It is also no coincidence that my Midheaven is in 11'14 Gemini
with its 12 Gemini Sabian Symbol is
"A Black Slave-Girl Who Demands Her Rights From Her Mistress"

My Eris in Aries in 8th sextiles my Midheaven

So my Midheaven Degree and my Eris sextile it, shows a strong "standing up for self/others", advocacy theme

of course, I was born with the very strong Sun-Earth-Eris-Nodes (heliocentric,geocentric) alignment

Philip Sedgwick said the following in regards to similarities between Uranus and Eris:

"Given the unique, adventurous, contentious, maverick-like, iconoclastically individualistic nature of both Uranus and Eris"

That's pretty much me

I was not born to go with the status quo, and that even includes Astrology

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted January 11, 2011 01:34 PM            

Well, speaking generally of sun signs is one thing. Speaking in context of taking all of known astrology is entirely different...

Your point about falling outside of the "Typical Scorpio" pattern is the reason why many feel cookie cutter astrology horoscopes don't apply to them.

It's good that you're taking things to the next step.