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Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 576 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted January 13, 2011 11:11 PM
FATINK, It's great that you want to help & support Ami, but I feel that you've somewhat missed Ami's real intentions when she cries for help. It's not about Go Ami Go, I support you in any way...it's a more specific nature. (Ami & Tink, I could be wrong, & excuse me if I am), but I sense what Ami is really saying is, she cant decipher & needs help deciphering between the difference of a Real burning Fire versus a Fire drill. Either way, both alarm bells, get her so worked up to the point she cannot objectively get out of the building. Should she smash the windows to get out?? or should she just take the door since it's just a drill. She cant decide, & instead rolls up into a ball waiting for the firemen. (Sorry kind of cheesy, but I cant think of a better example to get my point across). I get what your saying by giving Ami the example of your twinsoul. However that is a case of extremity, a real fire. If her real intentions for help is what I've written above, then giving her particular extreme cases dont really guide her to make deciphering objective choices. Yes I agree we should all listen to our intuition, but in Ami's case, maybe she's so freaked out, even her intuition cant help her decide which is a proper fire escape route to take? As I previously said, it goes further than diplomacy & tact. Words at the end of the day are meaningless jibberish, unless their true intent is delivered. This is why actions speak louder than words. Using tact merely helps deliver the intent smoothly. I dont think Randall negatively “criticized,” Ami, as he was giving good constructive criticism & the intent obviously registered with Amy. If it wasnt constructive crit, perhaps he would've penalized Ami with 1,2,3 warnings leading to strip her title as Mod. Clearly he's letting Ami Moderate & make mistakes to continually learn lessons, from each unique conflict that crops up. AMI, Your intent of not revisiting is understood, so onwards from this point on. I'm not in any position to give you advice, as I recognize what works for me, may not work for another,...but I'm throwing this out there incase it does resonate with you.
There's no need to get so upset over this matter, or beating yourself over making mistakes anytime in life. The intent of what's ultimately “important,” is if you learnt something with every step & mistake you make...then take away those lessons to effectively apply in future situations. Now let's put it into perspective, in the real world with real issues happening concurrently like people dying from floods, while we are typing away on this forum...is the exchange of words via conflicts really that important compared to the big picture of others dying?? I'm sorry to hear about your son, & it seems to me build ups of these incidences in your life have fused your Ego (emotion) with intellect. You seem to have great difficulty separating the two...but it's not just you, as I see many many people in this world do the same. So in that respect, you are not alone. My mom, constantly makes this mistake...ie, she thinks (intellect) she's an incompetent person (emotions) because she cant make more money (ego) than what she already can.... I'll try to clarify what I mean by giving an example: 1) A poor man & his son. His son robs a bank & is sentenced to prison. The man's (ego) obviously wants to justify with reasons like 1) but he's my son, you cant just take him away. 2) “but we are poor, please understand he didnt really mean it, if only I had been a better provider.” The man's (ego) feels (emotions) like he was a terrible father for such an outcome. He does not think (intellect), that perhaps this was a lesson & punishment his son really needs, inorder to become a better person. Now everytime the man thinks (intellect) about his son, or sees boys of his son's age, he feels (emotions) like he is a crappy father (ego). His Ego/emotions/intellect are all fused now... If we put it into perspective, he (man) is himself. His son is his son. They are entirely 2 separate entities with separate ego/emotions/intellect. He has his own lessons to learn, so as the son with his own. Ami is Ami, your son is your son, your mother is your mother...they do not add up to form what is ultimately “Ami.” With that said, it doesnt mean one shouldnt strive for the best to fulfill their ego either. You could achieve all the things you want, whether it's attaining spiritual enlightment, or that job title you've always hoped for. However, after becoming President (ego), it does not mean Obama should go around introducing himself as “I am President Obama.” No he isnt. He is only Barack Obama the person, who's achieved his goal & dream to become President. President (ego) does not dictate who Obama the person is. “President,” is merely what others categorize his 9-5 job title as, of what he should be doing at work...like creating structures for the country. Barack Obama the “person,” is a soul, a family man, who loves his wife & daughters, a good man, etc. I know society has trained us to think that way...as upon graduating from Med school, one is known as "Dr," & no longer as Mr/Ms. Titles incur egos. Separating EGO from intellect is key, it will start making you feel better (emotions) about yourself. Another thing. The other day I was randomly talking to a psychic woman. I asked her if she ever felt overwhelmed by psychic info/feelings/ghosts constantly bombarding her. She said she used to, until she learned to better control herself. She said she had to really learn to tune things out over the years, & be selective of what she takes in (thinks vs feels). According to what she's told me, Ami, perhaps your mistaken. Your not really 'numb,' as you claim, but on the contrary feeling waaay too much because you dont know how to control your floodgates. Instead you had opted to ignore it all these years, hence never learning to properly apply the separation of ego/intellect/emotions/awareness. Now that you are trying, it's proven difficult because old habits die hard. Perhaps this is your own unique lesson in life to overcome. Let the upset go, & try again. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 35697 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 02:23 AM
Thank you,Fatikerbel for your darling gesture of love for me. I am so touched.I can tell it was hard. Randall has been SO wonderful to me.I could never have grown to THIS point without him. He is a true angel. *I* was out of line in my over reaction. He was 100% right. He has allowed me the privilege of being a Mod. He allows me to grow in such a generous way. YOU are such a dear person to stand by me as a soul sister. I don't need it when it comes to Randall. I will call on you when I do  ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face the dregs of Nessus to touch the love and beauty of Neptune. Me
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 35697 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 02:27 AM
Thank you ,Agent,for your words. My intellect and emotions are fused ,now, when I see someone I care about hurting. I go from 0 to 90 in an instant. Thank you again for your generousity in understanding. My aim is not to make the SAME mistake twice. I see how I beat myself up,mercilessly,for any errors. That is a result of my childhood when I could not make any without great fear. I seem to be able to err,here on LL,and get grace instead of criticism. I get constructive criticism which is the ingredient for growth. Thank you for your post,Agent ,and your grace,too. PS It is so weird to see how I beat myself up SO much for making a mistake. I got to see that part of myself,today,and appreciate being ABLE to. It is not easy to face yourself.It is super hard but it is the ONLY way to walk away from the pain of the past.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 35697 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 02:37 AM
Fatinkerbel and I have have a unique relationship .So, she rushes in to help me as I did to Road . She rushes in out of love but Randall is not someone I need to run from but toward. We,humans, are not linear. Lately,I have been using my psychic ability to try to help others. This further loosens my boundaries and puts me in a unique position of connecting at the VERY deepest heart with people. This may have been part of my jumping too fast,also. I need to learn HOW to handle this part of me which is developing at a rather rapid rate since I offered psychic readings in the Personal Readings forum. I am not sure what part ,if any,this plays in what happened. Love you Guys a lot. Thanks for loving me  (((((Fatinerbel,Randall, Agent,Road,Banx )))) ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face the dregs of Nessus to touch the love and beauty of Neptune. Me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 35697 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 07:54 AM
Dear Fatinkerbel I need to say something to you.When you are abused,as we were, it is very disconcerting when someone tries to take away your reality. WE were abused and told that it was done out of love,for OUR OWN GOOD. I want to say that I was bullied ,before, badly. Very few people stood up,perhaps 6. You,prolly,feel badly that you did not stand up ,then. Now, you love me and I, you. You reacted based on the past times which you WERE seeing accurately. Your perceptions were not wrong.You just held that pain in and reacted now, when it was NOT a bullying situation,for me. Randall never bullies.He will go to the last degree to keep someone on LL ,always.------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face the dregs of Nessus to touch the love and beauty of Neptune. Me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 35697 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 08:00 AM
The other thing ,too,is that few people will stand up when someone is getting bullied .The Milgrim experiement answers the question of why. The bullying group BECOMES the authority. It becomes the man telling people to "shock" the victim. 67% of the people shocked the victim to death,if you remember. Very few people stood up for me NOT cuz they were bad but cuz of these human dynamics. Many fields in Pyschology go by the wayside but Social Psych never does. I learned these principles during my last year in college. They never left my side. Human nature is what it is. Until we go to Heaven,it will stay as such. Love overcomes human nature. Thank you for loving me, Fatinkerbel  PS I am off to the thread in Sweet Peas where you and I can talk lol
------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face the dregs of Nessus to touch the love and beauty of Neptune. Me
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roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 10:17 AM
I just remembered another reason why AGent's post upset me. She said I needed to get laid. It's kewl though, Agent so you know, I can get laid at any moment but It's pointless, my issue is not getting laid, my issue i shaving enough money to keep a girl around.
I do sincerely appreciate your opinions though, however I wouldn't say that to a person in real life. It's kewl with me cause i'm open, but I didn't realize that.. I think I can give you some advice though now, and in general, don't put yourself out there as someone who knows when people need to get laid. I don't know where the post went, I think she edited it, but like I said it's totaly kewl...just wanted to be honest. Otherwise your advice to relax is well founded. IP: Logged |
lindaGreg Knowflake Posts: 486 From: Bermuda Triangle Registered: Feb 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 10:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: I just remembered another reason why AGent's post upset me. She said I needed to get laid. It's kewl though, Agent so you know, I can get laid at any moment but It's pointless, my issue is not getting laid, my issue i shaving enough money to keep a girl around.
I do sincerely appreciate your opinions though, however I wouldn't say that to a person in real life. It's kewl with me cause i'm open, but I didn't realize that.. I think I can give you some advice though now, and in general, don't put yourself out there as someone who knows when people need to get laid. I don't know where the post went, I think she edited it, but like I said it's totaly kewl...just wanted to be honest.
you are such a sweet person Road. Don't open your heart and disclose your thoughts. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 10:37 AM
nm about this....IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 10:42 AM
Can I ask though, I'm curious, why shouldn't I should disclose my thoughts?
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Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 576 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted January 14, 2011 10:45 AM
ROAD,WOAH....I have NO clue what your talking about, (as god can be my witness). I have hardly interacted with you before. As far as I remember, I've only asked you once in a post how your Cap Sun/Pisces Moon combo works. Another time, you asked me how my Libra stellium plays out physically requesting me to post a pic. I have never gotten into any discussions with you that's even remotely sexually under-toned. Besides, I am NEVER the kind of person to absent mindedly hurl insults especially with crude sexual undertones. Not to mention, I cant delete posts. You would still see the person's post there but info removed. I have edited out a few posts before where I've felt I had revealed too much personal info...but if you search for them, you would see [edit], but never the entire post edited out. Mind you those posts werent even related to you in any way. Also, none of those posts were even interacting with you, nor sexually related. The only time something got sexual (not initiated by me), was when I asked BANXX how his Pluto-Mars played out (which you were heavily posting in that thread I recall). That was when Banxx started talking about his kundalini weini, and that was about it. I never even joined in on commenting about his Kundalini Weini. Getting laid or not isnt even at the ranks of being a trivial matter. I know I wouldnt even bother commenting on something like that, cuz to me it doesnt even matter. I am positively SURE you have mistaken me for someone else. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 10:48 AM
Agent, it's kewl kido.Seriously, who needs to relax now...LOL!!! lindagreg, can you elaborate more on opening up my heart and thoughts... do you think my writing will get me into trouble...I picked up an undertone of that possibly.. I was thinking that I don't have to fear black mail since it's a felony and punishable by 25 years in prison...lol. IP: Logged |
lindaGreg Knowflake Posts: 486 From: Bermuda Triangle Registered: Feb 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 10:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: Can I ask though, I'm curious, why shouldn't I should disclose my thoughts?
I am sorry, I think I did not express myself clearly there; what I meant was, (this is irrespective of the current issue), you do not need to go justify to someone why you have to do, what you do. You are being too honest by giving out your personal matters that in turn may get used against you later down the line. This is only a word of advice; Choice is always your's.  IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 11:02 AM
lindagregThank you sincerely Yes that advice is well recieved. I was even just about to dissipate more. Thank you, you are mong the angels here...(bows humbly like the shy and dashing swashbuckler he is) I think another issue highlighted here that I will undoubtedly profit from in my blog is the notion of what sucess is.....as In a back up role in twighlight vs the song written by one of my favorite artists below. Enjoy the beautiful music everyone! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ucN4DActxA IP: Logged |
lindaGreg Knowflake Posts: 486 From: Bermuda Triangle Registered: Feb 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 11:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: lindagregThank you sincerely Yes that advice is well recieved. I was even just about to dissipate more. Thank you, you are mong the angels here...(bows humbly like the shy and dashing swashbuckler he is) I think another issue highlighted here that I will undoubtedly profit from in my blog is the notion of what sucess is.....as In a back up role in twighlight vs the song written by one of my favorite artists below. Enjoy the beautiful music everyone! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ucN4DActxA
cheers buddy!!! damn it's 3 am; gotta get some rest; chat later; 
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roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 11:07 AM
linda we should be facebook friends...at the very least...get at me tomorrow! Or me at you.IP: Logged |
lindaGreg Knowflake Posts: 486 From: Bermuda Triangle Registered: Feb 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp: linda we should be facebook friends...at the very least...get at me tomorrow! Or me at you.
you already know me on FB lol IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp Knowflake Posts: 1507 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2011 11:41 AM
haha ! forgot your ll name...jeez luise.....IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 21028 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 14, 2011 11:59 AM
www.facebook.com/knowflake Tink, I don't expect Mods to be neutral; they should express their opinions just like anyone else. But when there's a conflict, the Mod should not choose a side and join in on the fight. Mods are peacekeepers and diplomats. Still, we are all human. Banx, it's not an inside joke if Road isn't laughing. ------------------ "Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all." Harriet Van Horne IP: Logged |
fatinkerbel Knowflake Posts: 187 From: South Korea Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 16, 2011 11:48 PM
I see your point Randall ... : ) I confess I was just trying to make Ami feel better. Anyway if I start writing on too many forums I'm gonna lose my sense of direction so for here, Road, Agent, everyone, nice to meet you ... since I don't really have anything enlightening to say about the topic of Venus semi-sq Sun I'll bid y'all adieu ... Love and kisses, : )------------------ be who you are and say what you feel cos those who matter don't mind and those that mind don't matter! IP: Logged | |