posted January 13, 2011 08:33 PM            

We don't use the constellations any way.

We use a tropical zodiac that is based on the northern hemisphere seasons that was adopted by Ptolemy. He did that without considering people living in the southern hemisphere.
I don't use tropical zodiac for people born in southern hemisphere.

BTW...the constellation,Ophiuchus isn't a new concept.

There are old astrology books, sites that mention Ophiuchus including its stars.
If you're into fixed stars,you would know about that stuff. Vivian Robson is one of those authors,and I have that book.
I have 2 of Bernadette Brady's books on fixed stars, and they have information on Ophiuchus. I have her fixed star astrology software program too.

Check out Diana Rosenberg's site. She has information on Ophiuchus.

also......this is the 3rd post on the constellation stuff

I think it would best to check a thread before posting to avoid posting the same exact topic

Raymond
Sun in Tropical Scorpio
Sun in Sidereal Libra
Sun in Constellation Virgo

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posted January 13, 2011 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Anonymoose:
I've decided to add a 14th constellation so don't get too comfortable with your new signs just yet.

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posted January 13, 2011 08:37 PM            

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posted January 13, 2011 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by racole12:
I'm not making a big fuss... I thought I would pretend to make a fuss. I don't care if I'm a Ophiuchus or a Saggie b/c no matter what I'm still who I am.

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posted January 13, 2011 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:

The Babylonians used 16 zodiac signs before changing it to 12. I read about it in James R. Lewis' Astrology Encyclopedia.

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Wow. Interesting. Considering I said that I will add a 15th and 16th.

posted January 13, 2011 09:02 PM            

the meanings for the zodiac signs are based on its element,mode,and its planetary rulership

Bernadette Brady emphasized the importance of the myths when it comes to understanding the meanings of the constellations

for example, the mythology behind Libra was weighing the souls of the dead before casting judgment
Libra used to be the Scorpion's Claws

in the constellation zodiac, Cancer has nothing to do with being domestic. there was mythology about the scarab which was a symbol of transformation

that Cancer domestic stuff was based on tropical and sidereal Cancer's ruler,Moon and the 4th house

sign,mode,and planetary rulers don't apply to constellations, therefore their meanings aren't the same as the sidereal and tropical zodiacs

take for instance my Sun in Virgo constellation
it would not be interpreted as mutable earth ruled by Mercury

it would base its mythology on the Greek Goddess Demeter, the Greek Goddess of the Harvest as well as Astrea,the Goddess of Justice

Virgo constellation is often associated with Astraea, and Libra constellation is often associated with the scales that Astraea carries

Astrea means "Star Maiden", and it's the 5th discovered asteroid which also was the start of planetary classification demise of Ceres,Pallas,Juno,and Vesta. I have it prominent in my chart.

Ptolemy actually said that certain constellations had planetary influences and some parts of constellation could have different planetary influences

he assigned planetary influences to stars
for example. He said that Beta Libra star, Zuben Elschamali has the influence of Mercury,Mars,Jupiter.

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posted January 13, 2011 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
Wow. Interesting. Considering I said that I will add a 15th and 16th.

GLAUCUS, Have you noticed all of the members on Wrong Planet? After I joined it went from 15,000 to now over 45,000. Today I went on and there were 37,000 of the 45,000 on at the same time! After being on there for about 45 minutes the numbers went from 37,000 to over 40,300 and rising! If I didn't know any better I would think that they are being led there. I have really been helping on in THE HAVEN. That is where the suicidal aspies go. I have been busy there trying to give hope to them and it is working.

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very interesting

I don't know what to make of that

I should post there more too

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posted January 13, 2011 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ariefairy:

Ophiuchus. how would you say that? OFFF EEEE YEWWW CHUSSS ?. hmm

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posted January 13, 2011 09:12 PM            

Appeal to Wisdom
When the ears are ready for the lips,
the Teacher will appear. http://www.startistics.com/ophiuchus/ophiuchus2.htm#Wisdom

"-Throughout the legends of Ancient Greece and Ancient Egypt, and particularly throughout the wondrous humanitarian career exploits of Aesclepius, God of Medicine, and Imhotep, moral-made-god, the common thread of essential primary teachings begins and ends with the Serpent of Wisdom and the Tree of Life, also sometimes called The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. The price we pay for making a mistake in our powers of judgment here is life eternal and expulsion from The Primeval Garden. It's still here and so are we. From what we're told are "pre-historic times," the Elixir of Life, Soma, Amrita, The Deathless Drink, was said to reside in the blood of a monster with dragonish and snakelike features, and the ancient practitioners of occult medicine, who were anything but unsuccessful with it, have left behind many manuscripts and documented success stories which may be hard to believe, but that's because most of it is sabotaged.

posted January 13, 2011 09:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
What Im a cancer??????
No!!

Is this only for Sun? What about the other planets? Are they effected also?

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yeah.......it applies too all bodies in the sky and not just the Sun

keep in mind

meanings for constellations aren't same as the tropical,sidereal zodiac meanings

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posted January 13, 2011 09:54 PM            

most people I talk to have NO idea what astrology entails and only like to read the horoscopes in the back of magazines or their place mat at cheap chinese buffets

but it's so much more than that, and I think in an effort to almost modernize the zodiac, we've lost the basics.

this stuff is not new, for me it's just ridiculous that people who know nothing about it are just sucking in the information without demanding to know the facts.

posted January 13, 2011 10:16 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
yea, and whats with the short scorpio thing? like wtf? these astrologers must hate us, LOL

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It used to be a larger constellation
Libra use to be part of a great Scorpion constellation
Libra used to be the Scorpion's Claws.

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posted January 13, 2011 10:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Glaucus:
It used to be a larger constellation
Libra use to be part of a great Scorpion constellation
Libra used to be the Scorpion's Claws.

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aah i see..but from a regular month-ish to just 6 short days?

posted January 13, 2011 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Nothing is missing in zodiac,really... We have nice,round numbers:360 degrees,12 signs/houses,4 modes and elements. Harmony is in numbers! Logos and mythos,guys...
It's funny situation,though!
Boy& Girl dancing in club
Girl: So... I am Nina... Aries
Boy: Hi, I am Bob... Serpentarius
Girl: U r what?!?!
Ophis are great!! Moon position,especially!!

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lol, but what is orphiuchus anyways? i mean i'm still learning how to read a chart with the 12 signs, but now 13??