posted January 16, 2011 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
Can some give me some decription of libra which has some depth...

Also from what I've seen Libra tend to be labelled bitchy etc...is this a trait that's at all dominant?

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posted January 16, 2011 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by lindaGreg:
I am not a Libran, but I am a ***** . hahah

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WTF? Why is this forum so hyper-sensitive to silly words?

posted January 17, 2011 04:10 PM            

What annoys me sometimes though, is that some of them want to please everything and everyone at the expense of their true personality, they can be inconstant and too indecisive, and sometimes act passive/aggressive. But hey, we all have negative traits

posted June 05, 2012 11:41 PM            

"Libra is a sign of harmony. They will maintain their smile, elegance and freedom even in the most corrupt environment. Almost everyone has the same impression about Libras – they are amiable, kind and sociable. Everyone think that Libras must be terrified of being alone since they are so sociable. I would disagree; the truth isn’t so simple.

One thing’s for sure, Libras are envoys of peace and harmony. They will try to bring balance to their surroundings at all times. When the atmosphere is hectic and loud, they will calmly and quietly hold their ground; when the atmosphere is solemn and quiet, they will try to use lighthearted humor to alleviate the crowd. The bottom line is, they will never go along with the collective mood, but will try to complement it by using themselves as a scale to maintain harmonized balance. They do this with elegance and calmness without anyone knowing. On the surface, they will appear nice, innocent and collected. Libras are very scheming in their own way and will always find a way to make the overall situation harmonious. Please don’t misunderstand them for wanting domination – they are not interested in that. They just can’t tolerate unbalanced situations as they seek harmony to idealism.

Libras despise trouble and conflicts to the core. When in a troubled situation, they will take on the responsibility of a regulator without even being aware of it. Because of this, Libras are rarely relaxed in public; their personality and tendencies causes them to bear a lot of unnecessary responsibilities and stress unintentionally.

Libras love freedom and are very particular about having enough spare time on their own for leisure and relaxation. They love the freedom that solitude can provide. Even if you’re the Libra’s best friend, it’s best not to always stay glued to them. They don’t like their bubble to be intruded, though they may not necessarily tell you so. You will need to have faith that you’re still best buddies even if you don’t hear from them for months. When they see you they will remain nice and amicable, as if that time apart didn’t happen.

Contrary to general beliefs, Libras are not that crazy about going to parties and entertaining people. They would rather stay home and enjoy their solitude. Balancing one person (themselves) is much easier than balancing a group of people, so they would rather be unaccompanied.

Libras are good with people because they are graceful and easy going. They always have a gentle smile and elegant manners. Upon meeting a stranger, Libras will often show their most pleasant side – understanding, generous, sincere and eloquent. However, this enthusiasm does not last very long. You won’t be able to predict when they will turn cold towards you. The clingier you are, the more they’ll back off. They like to keep a comfortable distance with their friends. This isn’t because they don’t like company; it’s just their natural tendency to pay attention to your feelings. If you’re too close to them, they find themselves unable to relax since they will have the urge to attend to your emotions and keep you happy.

Libras are very autonomous and independent. When self-reflecting, they will sometimes be in awe with their own calmness and composure. Libras are always trying to control their emotions and are very capable of keeping feelings in check.They often feel alienated from their own heart because they have distanced themselves from their inner world. Even their closest family and friends would often feel alienated from them – it’s often very difficult to guess what a Libra is thinking. Libras are not deliberately trying to hide; they deceive themselves before they portray themselves to others and this is merely their natural instinct."

posted June 05, 2012 11:58 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
agree with VenusDiSirius. Was just about to say that. Being dictatorial aka bossy and demanding is common for all cardinal signs. They're all impatient, have tempers, and want things NOW or else they get bored...and they always want change change change..different stuff all the time, the more new experiences the better.

But Libras are awesome. I'm a cancer and I love them. They are such nice people who just try to make others happy and make others like them. I've found them to be honest, and really just nice loyal people. They also have the social graces thing down pat. They know just what to say to be charming, and the way to act to be liked by everyone.

Libras are also deep.
They're thinkers like all the air signs, but they're not distant, stubborn, unfeeling, and detached like aquariuses (they are more practical than dreamy aquarians), and they're not as thrill-seeking as geminis, and again not as unromantic or detached from their emotions.

Libras are the ones you want to bring to a party to get everyone having fun. They're experts at getting along with others and making everyone laugh and feel comfortable. They're also extremely classy....sophisticated music, people, fashion, and places is their thing all the way. They are, above all, refined people who live life day by day and try to influence others in innovative ways.

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posted June 06, 2012 06:41 AM            

We really try hard to please people. We really want to be loved, and having people like us is extremely important. We are social creatures and need to be accepted, cared about, and for our company to be enjoyed by others. When we feel genuinely loved and appreciated and like people think well of us, this is when our best traits come out.

We do not always think highly of ourselves. For me personally, a LOT of my self-worth is derived from people liking me. I feel like connections with others are highly unstable, and I worry constantly that people don't like me and that issues with people cannot ever be fixed. I worry constantly about losing people. I care about people a lot and friendship means a lot to me. Romance will mean a lot to other Libras, but not to me personally, though I have a packed 11th house and an empty 7th (except for Chiron), so that could explain it.

Libras appreciate beauty, both seen and unseen. This isn't being "shallow". We just can't help but notice what is lovely and pleasing. We ourselves aim to be beautiful both inside and out: we want to become what is lovely and pleasing and not just experience it as an observer, but as a participant in that beauty.

Libras may look sweet and harmless, but we can be more intelligent and stronger than we appear. Even the more ditzy ones can surprise you.

Libras try to be fair and diplomatic. We try to balance opposing viewpoints and often hold very contradictory ideas in tension. We really want people to be able to see the other side of things, and we want people to get along. We like things to run smoothly. We HATE conflict and confrontation. We like to be pleasant. We will also sometimes take the other side of an argument not because we agree with it, but because we just want to help someone see another perspective--it all goes back to that fairness and balance thing.

We are very indecisive. We like to take our time, consider different viewpoints, and really think things through. We like to ask advice from others to be sure that we aren't missing something. In the end, we'll try to do what is the most balanced and fair thing, and what would make the most people content.

We are NOT direct. As I said, we hate conflict and confrontation. We will not just come out and say something offensive unless it's an extreme situation and we're driven to it (it is NOT a good idea to try to drive us to that state, either). We don't like to be disliked and we're not going to come out and start a fight or look to cause trouble (unless you have a bad Libra on your hands that just loves to argue and is oppositional, which can be an irritating version of this sign). We don't like having people upset with us. I myself have a Sagittarius ascendant plus two other Sagittarius placements, and even those factors do not change my basic Libra nature. I can be that way in my head, but not openly.

We love harmony, peace, balance, and being loved. Those things will make us happy. Ignoring us and avoiding us (remember, we are HIGHLY social, even the introverts like me) hurt us deeply and cause us a lot of pain.

We also like for people to have manners. While most of us (except maybe with a lot of Virgo influence) won't freak out if you swear every once in awhile, we really don't like crassness, crudeness, or vulgarity on a regular basis, unless we have some placements in our charts that would cause that. We can have a dark sense of humor, but in the right dosage, and not to an extreme.

That brings me to another point: we do not like extremes. We can sometimes go to them in an attempt to find balance, or to try to point out another side/try out an opinion, but again, balance and harmony.

posted June 07, 2012 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by KingTaurus2104:
Can some give me some decription of libra which has some depth...

Also from what I've seen Libra tend to be labelled bitchy etc...is this a trait that's at all dominant?

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I wonder if every sign receives every sign differently... just a thought I had. Little late for it, but anyway...

I'm an Aries, so I know I'm supposed to have a lot opposite, and a lot of similarities between Libras. However... my experiences with them haven't been the best. Libras do NOT like conflict. I knew a Leo with a Libra moon and she couldn't handle it when me and my Aquarius co-worker would get into major arguments. She would leave the room. But, speaking of her Libra moon, she was very good at flirting and charming. She would definitely be able to seduce a man for his money without him ever knowing that's why. At least not for awhile.

A lot of the Libras I know are excellent at reading people. I feel they pick up this trait from Scorpio, rather than it's own unique Libra brand though.

Libras are the masters of subtle manipulation. For instance, take my Libra co-worker.
"Oh, this hanger rack is super full. Hey boss I'm going to go to the back and get a new one." Mind you, the hanger rack is actually overflowing so it looks as if he has a good reason to take it to the backroom. The trick is he stays back there for 30 minutes when it should only take 5-10. Meanwhile we're left to cashier the never-ending line.
Another Libra co-worker of mine always got away with calling out sick on Wednesdays, and made passive-aggressive snappy comments to people who made her wait longer than she imagined. Yet ANOTHER Libra co-worker of mine has foot in mouth syndrome like an Aries. She is the most unevolved one I've met. She blurts things out that are offensive but which you find hard to get/stay mad at because you feel as though you're angry at your child for cussing, even though the child is too young to know what the cuss word means.

posted June 07, 2012 05:15 AM            

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I wonder if every sign receives every sign differently... just a thought I had. Little late for it, but anyway...

I'm an Aries, so I know I'm supposed to have a lot opposite, and a lot of similarities between Libras. However... my experiences with them haven't been the best. Libras do NOT like conflict. I knew a Leo with a Libra moon and she couldn't handle it when me and my Aquarius co-worker would get into major arguments. She would leave the room. But, speaking of her Libra moon, she was very good at flirting and charming. She would definitely be able to seduce a man for his money without him ever knowing that's why. At least not for awhile.

A lot of the Libras I know are excellent at reading people. I feel they pick up this trait from Scorpio, rather than it's own unique Libra brand though.

Libras are the masters of subtle manipulation. For instance, take my Libra co-worker.
"Oh, this hanger rack is super full. Hey boss I'm going to go to the back and get a new one." Mind you, the hanger rack is actually overflowing so it looks as if he has a good reason to take it to the backroom. The trick is he stays back there for 30 minutes when it should only take 5-10. Meanwhile we're left to cashier the never-ending line.
Another Libra co-worker of mine always got away with calling out sick on Wednesdays, and made passive-aggressive snappy comments to people who made her wait longer than she imagined. Yet ANOTHER Libra co-worker of mine has foot in mouth syndrome like an Aries. She is the most unevolved one I've met. She blurts things out that are offensive but which you find hard to get/stay mad at because you feel as though you're angry at your child for cussing, even though the child is too young to know what the cuss word means.

So, charming flakes, passive-aggressive slackers... that's a Libra for you. Oh, and they love their gossip.

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Libras can be lazy sometimes, but we also have our moments of working hard. We can be motivated. Me, if I either really need to do something to avoid something bad happening (like being fired or being embarrassed), if something really interests me, or if there's just something else that inspires me, I will work hard. I'm mostly unmotivated if I'm feeling upset emotionally, if a task is really unpleasant, if nothing really good/needed comes out of it doing it, or if it will cause conflict/problems. For me, my Libra sun connects with my Capricorn Mars. I'm motivated by fear/wanting to prevent something, vanity, beauty, wanting to be helpful or do something nice for someone, wanting to be liked, having a practical result, me coming into a better social/financial/career position, personal goals, etc.

To be honest, I really don't get the whole thing about people not liking how we prefer to avoid conflict. The example with your friend, I didn't see anything wrong with her leaving the room. For me at least, it's really awkward and unpleasant to be around people arguing.

I don't really understand (perhaps someone who's not a Libra can explain it to me) why some people enjoy conflict and fighting or thrive on it. If I have to disagree with someone, I like to try come to a point of compromise. If there is no compromise, I still prefer to keep things calm and civil. For me to get really nasty with people, either something has to be going on with me emotionally (which puts me in a moodier, more easily irritated state, in which I'm more likely to be rude or crabby) or else someone has to really cross the line and go way too far. Sometimes conflict can bring people closer and create trust/honesty, but you have to really care about each other and have some stability/security for that to go well. When you aren't close to a person, don't care about each other much, or if things aren't really secure, it's a very big risk. It's also a big risk in a job situation because it can get fired.

As for us reading people, I think that the Libras who are that way may have planets in water signs or else may be very highly socially skilled and thus may know from how they socialize and simply from that experience. And, too, being an air sign, we do of course analyze every little thing to death. Personally, I'm better at reading people in some situations than others. The biggest block to me socially is anxiety (mainly over worrying what people think of me and being really upset when people avoid me and/or aren't talking to me), which I am trying to work on.

As for your problematic co-workers, I would say that those are un-evolved Libras. While certainly no person or sign is perfect, not all Libras are that way. If you don't mind my asking, are they really young? Or have they been sheltered/haven't really had a good work ethic installed in them by a parent/teacher/previous employer? Those things, too, could cause immaturity in any person of any sign. There are bad Libras out there, but there are also un-evolved Libras who may end up maturing, but just haven't gotten there yet.

posted June 08, 2012 09:27 PM            

Its actually a bad stereotype that most Libras tend to seek artistic and peaceful endevours. Remember... Libra is a cardinal sign and as such history has shown us that some of the best generals in the world are... well... Libras . They will use violence wit h cold and calculating effectiveness if they deem it necessary for the greater good and lasting peace. People have basically created this false stereotype about Libras because of personalities like Gandhi and John Lennon. Libra is completely in a different league compared to Caps and the fishes; Libra is the peacemaker... But if they HAVE to bring peace through the use of force, they will use it without a second thought.

I am a Libra and my philosophy on achieving peace can basically be summed up by the famous saying: Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum; Which basically means: If you want peace, prepare for war!

posted June 08, 2012 10:16 PM            

To that end, take it all with a grain of salt, and make sure to read each thoroughly. They're all going to provide insight - and from many perspectives.

And, honestly, THAT's what (I feel, at least) Libra is truly about, at its core.

posted June 09, 2012 12:34 AM            

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I'm mostly unmotivated if I'm feeling upset emotionally, if a task is really unpleasant, if nothing really good/needed comes out of it doing it, or if it will cause conflict/problems.

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But doing things you don't want to do or don't like doing is apart of life, and I'm not saying this to you personally but more in my head to the Libras I work with, 'cause they're a bit more like that and less about "working hard." For a sign that's so "team" oriented, they sure think about themselves first a lot.

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To be honest, I really don't get the whole thing about people not liking how we prefer to avoid conflict. The example with your friend, I didn't see anything wrong with her leaving the room. For me at least, it's really awkward and unpleasant to be around people arguing.

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The conflict happened at work, and compared to my Aqua co-worker I was keeping it civil, lol! We weren't even involving her in the argument, so why be offended by it was my mentality I guess. Eh, not something I really dwell on but I noticed. And by you avoiding conflict, I don't mean arguing but you (as in Libras - not "you you") seem to avoid disharmony. For example, you ask me my favorite color and I say blue, so you tell me your favorite color is blue too even though you really hate that color. That's what I don't get about Libras and conflict, because it's not as if I'd take your opinions personally. Does that mean Libras DO take other's opinions personally?

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I don't really understand (perhaps someone who's not a Libra can explain it to me) why some people enjoy conflict and fighting or thrive on it.

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As for your problematic co-workers, I would say that those are un-evolved Libras. While certainly no person or sign is perfect, not all Libras are that way. If you don't mind my asking, are they really young? Or have they been sheltered/haven't really had a good work ethic installed in them by a parent/teacher/previous employer? Those things, too, could cause immaturity in any person of any sign. There are bad Libras out there, but there are also un-evolved Libras who may end up maturing, but just haven't gotten there yet.

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You do have a point there. They're like, 19 and 21, except the bully Libra girl is 28. But she's sheltered actually, still lives at home and her mom basically has her on lockdown (weird...) I'm 23 and I've been working since my freshman year in college at different jobs - but I've always had one, and yes always had a militant dad drilling in the expression "If you're 5 minutes early, you're on time." into my head. The 21 year old Libra is just kind of naive, but he has a Pisces moon too, so perhaps that combination is the culprit (or like you said their age and lack of experience)

posted June 09, 2012 07:40 AM            

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For a sign that's so "team" oriented, they sure think about themselves first a lot.

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--we can be contradictory at times

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The conflict happened at work, and compared to my Aqua co-worker I was keeping it civil, lol! We weren't even involving her in the argument, so why be offended by it was my mentality I guess. Eh, not something I really dwell on but I noticed. And by you avoiding conflict, I don't mean arguing but you (as in Libras - not "you you") seem to avoid disharmony. For example, you ask me my favorite color and I say blue, so you tell me your favorite color is blue too even though you really hate that color. That's what I don't get about Libras and conflict, because it's not as if I'd take your opinions personally. Does that mean Libras DO take other's opinions personally?

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I wouldn't say that your friend was offended, just really uncomfortable and maybe a bit sad by all of the fighting.

I would say that I'm definitely really sensitive (I have my moon, Venus, Pluto, and Jupiter--the last one being my chart ruler--in water signs, and they form a grand trine; I also have a t-square involving my cardinal planets) and find it difficult to feel like people genuinely like me as I am: I feel pressure to be agreeable and not irritate people.

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As an Aries, it's not that I enjoy conflict but I'm not going to do a disservice and insult my soul by bending over backwards to please someone else. Compromise involves TWO people, so if they do something for me then yes I'll do something for them but that's it, whereas Libras tend to give and give and give in order to keep the peace. Or instead of outright asking for something they want they sugar coat the real core of their intentions.

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I honestly am guilty of giving and giving and giving to keep peace and because I just so badly want to be liked. I don't need to be best buddies, or braid each other's hair, or anything like that. I just want people to think that I'm a good person, to see the good in me, to enjoy my company/presence, and to talk to me now and then. I feel like a failure when I try so hard to please people and I'm not good enough to succeed in that. I feel literally disgusting. I feel ashamed to exist. It gets to the point that I literally feel sick sometimes. I don't feel like eating or doing anything or being anywhere.

I really would like to go to people and talk things out, but I feel like I can't because they would just consider it creepy, even though I don't mean it that way. I feel like they do not like me and would not want to hear from me. I don't know what else to do other than avoid them because I feel like this is what they would want.

I feel like things are hopeless between myself and the people with whom I am struggling, and this creates such a deep sadness in me.

I envy you Aries people, honestly.

I definitely sugar coat my intentions because I don't feel like I have the right to ask people for anything. I feel like certain other people only see me as an annoying burden. I feel like I am annoying and irritating certain people simply by being around them. I feel like I am being pushy or demanding if I ever talk to them or write to them. I want nothing more than to sort things out and have peace, but I do not feel like they would be open to it. I really do not feel good about myself. I want to get there, but I am not there yet.

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Also, as for people living at home or getting help from relatives: I'm in that situation myself. It's humiliating. However, my job is only part-time, and no extra hours can be added (I'm already over the limit of the hours that they can afford to pay me for and will have to have some cut; I never miss a day of work). I've applied and applied and applied for part-time second jobs. I'm currently working with someone to try to figure out my career path so that I can be self-sufficient. I honestly do feel judged (not by you, but by people in general), ashamed, guilty, and a lot of other bad feelings about my situation. I know that I'm doing what I can, but I still feel humiliated sometimes. Maybe your co-workers feel like that too.

posted June 09, 2012 08:16 PM            

This is going to sound extremely rude but in no way is it intended to be - but do you have a disorder or anything like that? I know you mentioned seeing a therapist in another post, but this behavior is soooo extreme. You should never allow anyone's opinion or like/dislike affect you that much.

posted June 09, 2012 08:48 PM            

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"I honestly am guilty of giving and giving and giving to keep peace and because I just so badly want to be liked. I don't need to be best buddies, or braid each other's hair, or anything like that. I just want people to think that I'm a good person, to see the good in me, to enjoy my company/presence, and to talk to me now and then. I feel like a failure when I try so hard to please people and I'm not good enough to succeed in that. I feel literally disgusting. I feel ashamed to exist. It gets to the point that I literally feel sick sometimes. I don't feel like eating or doing anything or being anywhere."

This is going to sound extremely rude but in no way is it intended to be - but do you have a disorder or anything like that? I know you mentioned seeing a therapist in another post, but this behavior is soooo extreme. You should never allow anyone's opinion or like/dislike affect you that much.

Assuming you don't have a disorder - all of that sounds very ego and "me" based. I'm sure this is nothing new to you, but people don't like pushovers actually. To gain respect from people you have to respect yourself by setting your own boundaries. People will still like you if you say no. You have to work on liking yourself and then everybody else will like you. Just do it. Stop picking yourself apart and racking your brain and let it go. Just be. Develop your own personality and "joie de vivre" and others will be drawn to that.

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posted June 09, 2012 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
"I honestly am guilty of giving and giving and giving to keep peace and because I just so badly want to be liked. I don't need to be best buddies, or braid each other's hair, or anything like that. I just want people to think that I'm a good person, to see the good in me, to enjoy my company/presence, and to talk to me now and then. I feel like a failure when I try so hard to please people and I'm not good enough to succeed in that. I feel literally disgusting. I feel ashamed to exist. It gets to the point that I literally feel sick sometimes. I don't feel like eating or doing anything or being anywhere."

This is going to sound extremely rude but in no way is it intended to be - but do you have a disorder or anything like that? I know you mentioned seeing a therapist in another post, but this behavior is soooo extreme. You should never allow anyone's opinion or like/dislike affect you that much.

Assuming you don't have a disorder - all of that sounds very ego and "me" based. I'm sure this is nothing new to you, but people don't like pushovers actually. To gain respect from people you have to respect yourself by setting your own boundaries. People will still like you if you say no. You have to work on liking yourself and then everybody else will like you. Just do it. Stop picking yourself apart and racking your brain and let it go. Just be. Develop your own personality and "joie de vivre" and others will be drawn to that.

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I struggle with anxiety and depression.

I am trying to work on liking myself. I'm not quite there yet.