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Frozen Queen
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posted January 26, 2011 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow what an aspect to have

This is me...

Venus 12Lib sq Neptune 8Cap

What would you say about this Knowflakes?

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Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

How do you feel this aspect,FQ?

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Cynnared
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posted January 26, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you settle for the first person that comes your way and put them on a pedestal?

I have Venus at 6 pisces SQUARE to Neptune at 2 sag con Jupiter at 6 Sag. A double whammy there,

You want to believe the best in people and sometimes hang your hopes on people who are not good for you. They end up abusing you. You get told that you are their ideal but the honeymoon ends quickly and relationship hell ensues.

My take anyhow on it. What I have experienced. Since I am close to middle aged now I have a handle on it.

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blonderiverkat
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posted January 26, 2011 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Cynnared...I have been through that without having that aspect...perhaps my Venus conjunct Neptune?

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blonderiverkat
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posted January 26, 2011 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized that my oldest son has that aspect as well...I take it as not being a good one? lol

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Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2011 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have this aspect,Thank Goodness lol
I do know that any Neptune aspect is powerful though.
I have several strong ones that allow me to access Neptune realms through creative and mystical pursuits
I can imagine HOW hard it would be to have Venus getting mucked up in there

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Frozen Queen
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posted January 26, 2011 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cynnared:
[B]You want to believe the best in people and sometimes hang your hopes on people who are not good for you. They end up abusing you. You get told that you are their ideal but the honeymoon ends quickly and relationship hell ensues.

God, cynnared!! That is exactly what it is!

I just want to trust the goodness in people even though my stellium in Scorpio goes the opposite direction.

I also have a Mars in Aries, critical at O degrees and a NN at 11 Pisces in the 8th...give me dreams and innocence and forget about the nature of people. I've found that I tend to be too idealistic at times, and get hurt when my dreams are a brighter palette than life...

Ah youth!


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Ami Anne
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posted January 26, 2011 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In general, it is hard to find the balance between being wise and NOT getting hard i.e retaining some of the wonder and innocence of life.
I will tell you when I get there.Don't hold your breath unless you want to expire

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You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune.
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Frozen Queen
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posted January 26, 2011 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it is my chart but...

you're either God's Child or you're God's Adult

When the going gets tough, the spiritually tough get going. They open their hearts and feel. - Openhand

The wound is where the Light enters us - Rumi

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littlecloud
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posted January 28, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the tightest aspects in my chart is Venus Opposite Neptune. Yep. I feel your pain. I think a good way to describe it as well would be falling in love with love. Always chasing that "in love" feeling. Once that's gone, i.e. reality sets in, that's when the relationship is over for us. However we may still stay with it not really able to let go easily. I associate this aspect with venus in pisces and even pisces sun attributes.

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JohnFKennedy
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posted January 28, 2011 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the tightest orb in my entire natal chart, asteroids aside. I used to have a VERY bad problem about idealizing a few certain people and elevating them to this "savior" status. Granted, I did it because I had little else to believe in regarding life during this time period, so having faith in them being everything I always wanted to be was strangely comforting. Of course, the disillusion period is always kind of heartbreaking. I haven't noticed this aspect get activated in a good while, though.. knock on wood.

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posted January 28, 2011 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have also realized that this aspect contributes to false love. Believing you have fallen in love with someone who in reality you are not in love with. Part of it is chasing that in love feeling, and another is that need to be loved that is so important in this aspect. It has led me to recognize that I have only been truly in love once, I came close a second and possibly a third time but the others I'm not sure would've worked out anyway.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 28, 2011 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I got the million dollar question "What IS "in love"

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posted January 28, 2011 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus quix (inconjunct) Neptune
Venus at 2Can Neptune 2Sag


Im not really sure, what love is... I fantasize about it, but its just probably so unrealistic. Something that will never happen...
I get so disappointed when reality sets in, and I dont have that great love story to share...
I want the ultimate romance love story.. I want to fight for it, but then win at the end, with some great romantic scene of him chasing me down..
(I watch to much tv... lol)

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posted January 29, 2011 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is being "in Love" is dependent on what you are.

For starters, it is your cheesy teen bubblegum romance...butterflies in the stomach...sleepless nights...being unable to take your hands off each other...feeling dizzy when you're around them...a promise of a better life...a dream, a fairytale...

Most relationships start out this way and then fade away, sadly...reality sets in...some stumble, other brave souls move forward.

But when Venus and Neptune are involved in this dance, it is for the soul to realise that Love is not an emotion you experience when a certain someone is with you. Love is an energy, it is Real, it is Discernible, it is the Life Blood of the Creator Soul that some call God and others call their Higher Self(and some folks don't believe in at all )

When a soul reaches that level of evolution where Love becomes more than just a warm, fuzzy emotion, they realise that to be In Love, they have to exist at the vibration of the highest frequency.

Love is not exclusive, it includes one and all: your lover/spouse, your children, your parents, your neighbours, friends, family, acquaintances, your animal friends, strangers and even your enemies. How you choose to express that energy differs with different people but the energy itself is the same: Love.

And that I feel is the lesson of Venus-Neptune: when you stop loving and be In Love in all aspects of your life, you find Love gushing forth towards you.

As above, so below...As withIN, so withOUT


Hmmm...that still doesn't make sense God!

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posted January 29, 2011 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They can't accurately appraise their worth.
Esp. their attractiveness, under-value it usually, altho I suppose they could over-value it too..I just have never seen it play out that way.
I think it's one of the saddest aspects to have, esp. if it's a very close orb in Fixed signs.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 29, 2011 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lonake
You have never seen it play out "what way"?
I want to thank you for your contributions.
You are SUCH a wonderful Astrologer.
I can see how long it takes to get even a little expertise.
I,so,admire yours and the generosity with which you share it. LL is very fortunate to have you !Thank you

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You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune.
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posted January 29, 2011 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The over-value bit re:their self-worth.
I've only seen them under-value themselves.
Neptune hard aspect Venus brings inaccurate appraisal.

lol I think you're over-doin' the praise, but I'll take just a slice of it, ty

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Frozen Queen
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posted January 29, 2011 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
They can't accurately appraise their worth.
Esp. their attractiveness, under-value it usually. I think it's one of the saddest aspects to have, esp. if it's a very close orb in Fixed signs.

The underestimating the self-worth bit is highly accurate. It took me a long time (and one NN dynamite/disaster relationship) to realise that if I did not appreciate myself and respected myself, no one else would do it for me.

I told myself: Sarah, you don't pay people to respect you. If you don't respect yourself, no one else will and you will have no one to blame but you.

My Scorpio placements helped too. If you cannot treat me the way I treat myself, please don't bother and find someone else to play out your insecurities upon. I'm not going to be a part of your psycho-drama *smiles*

It has helped a lot...I guess having NARCISSUS on my New Moon was God's way of compensating

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posted January 29, 2011 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness- Pisces asc?

Frozen Queen- That made perfect sense to me. Do you by any chance have venus trine pluto? I have found that love to me is unconditional love. That is true love.

Lonake- Very true about the under-value quality of the aspect. On the bright side it gives the native a humbleness that I believe more people need nowadays. Also it can spur the native to always work harder and push forward no matter what, which is never a bad thing.

I think this aspect is also about learning to love yourself. The native has a harder time doing this than other people.

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posted January 29, 2011 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Lonake
I will cut my praise down to a slice

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posted January 29, 2011 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Lonake
I will cut my praise down to a slice

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posted January 29, 2011 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Lioness- Pisces asc?

Oo.. Is my Pisces showing??

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posted January 29, 2011 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect, my venus is at 4 libra and my neptune is at 2 capricorn. I have a serious problem with trying to sort fantasy from reality....I too have a habit of idolizing people and lovers...after a while I see that they aren't worthy of my acute idealisation. Its not just in the romantic sense that this aspect hits me, it's every day and in everything I do. My head is in the clouds 90 percent of the time and it gets me nowhere...I really need to buckup lol. I have pisces on my descendant aswell so thats basically a double dose of neptune with regards to love matters.

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posted January 29, 2011 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Frozen Queen- That made perfect sense to me. Do you by any chance have venus trine pluto? I have found that love to me is unconditional love. That is true love.
I think this aspect is also about learning to love yourself. The native has a harder time doing this than other people.

My Venus is an exact semi-sextile to Pluto but both planets are very strong in my chart. Venus is in Libra and the 2nd house and Pluto conjuncts my IC.

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In truth everything and everyone
Is a shadow of the Beloved,
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And our words are His words...
We search for Him here and there,
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Sitting by His side, we ask:
'O Beloved, where is the Beloved?'


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