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Ami Anne
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posted February 11, 2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Kat
On LL ,as anywhere, take what you like and leave the rest.
I am learning that. I learned it though making a mess of myself.
I have not learned it well, at all,just the beginning.
Love you!!!!

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posted February 11, 2011 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We live by God's laws, not mans's...

And Lucia....be very careful of what you put into words, and how you judge people whom you don't even know...I promise you, it will come back around and bite you in the butt...bigtime..

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Ami Anne
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posted February 11, 2011 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your son is gorgeous, Kat
My new signature reflects my new walk. The old walk was where I was screaming,yelling and defending myself


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Ami Anne
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posted February 11, 2011 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, I will push someone away who hurts me.I will not allow them near me BUT I will not fight back in the way I did before--flailing like a drowning person.

How did I learn this lesson? By loosing it and acting like a mess.
I pass my lesson on to you

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posted February 11, 2011 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ami...he has a beautiful heart too...they both do...all of my children do...lol

I know, it's just really sad to see some who are so miserable....not all were brought here for the same purpose as us though...

Thank you Angel...

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posted February 11, 2011 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat

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posted February 11, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:

We live by God's laws, not mans's...


Amen!

Every person's right are God given. Not given by government or what they claim is legal. Frankly they have done much to cover up abductions, allow human trafficking, drug empires and many many more horrible atrocities so forgive me for not taking it up with them. If my child does anything that I deem "illegal" I as the mother will take care of it. NOT some government that doesn't give a rats a$s about my child.

I also understood what you meant by abuse.

Yes this comment is directed to Lucia23

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posted February 11, 2011 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your son is gorgeous, Kat
My new signature reflects my new walk. The old walk was where I was screaming,yelling and defending myself


I understand Ami...I don't need to defend myself...those who KNOW me know that I have been to hell and back for my children, they are the loves of my life...I find it difficult to understand how people can even judge people they DO KNOW, let alone the ones they know very little about...I have God behind me, it's his plan, if someone doesn't like his plan, I dare them to take it up with him...I will expend my energy on those looking for love and light, who are seeking out God and the truth...

Kat

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posted February 11, 2011 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Amen!

Every person's right are God given. Not given by government or what they claim is legal. Frankly they have done much to cover up abductions, allow human trafficking, drug empires and many many more horrible atrocities so forgive me for not taking it up with them. If my child does anything that I deem "illegal" I as the mother will take care of it. NOT some government that doesn't give a rats a$s about my child.

I also understood what you meant by abuse.

Yes this comment is directed to Lucia23


Your right Lucia...the governement doesn't give a crap about us, or our children...only power, money, and greed...they want us DEAD...gone!

As far as abuse goes...I am the only one who was ever abused in our family, and my son is one who helped me thru it...just by being my son, and being in my life...Abuse is a very harsh word, and people need to think twice on how they use that term...I won't even mention any of this to him, it would send him through the roof! lol

I will still pray for those angry and lost souls though, just as I have for the ones who have abused me aside from this topic...and forgive, for 'they know no better'.....

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posted February 11, 2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing Lucia has said will come back and bite her, she was merely pointing out the reality. I wouldn't let any of my kids date someone who was 19 at 14, my 18 yr old daughter does date a 25 yr old now though and I'm fine with that.

It's common knowledge that children exposed to violence are emotionally damaged, in this country if a child is witnessing (hearing or seeing) parental violence the child can be removed on the grounds of emotional abuse. I'm not preaching here, I was in a bad relationship many years ago...but I can accept it did affect my kids at the time. It leaves scars.

You all might want to find some material on emotional incest and read it. All except Lucia that is because I think she might know what that is already - and someone else who said they got damaged by parental interference.

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posted February 12, 2011 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just thinking of you ((((Kat)))))


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posted February 12, 2011 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is ridiculous. Our grandparents were married at and having children at 13. That may not be healthy or ideal, but neither is what's happening now. There is the natural life cycle. People don't postpone puberty and hormones til they're 30. Yes, people are living longer now, but sex is sex and it doesn't matter if the other person is the same age or older-the damage, if ANY, is the SAME. I just don't get it. It's okay to have pre-marital sex and multiple partners that you barely know and put it all on your myspace, as long as they're the blind leading the blind, the same age??? That's what's happening today. I remember when people wanted their daughters involved with older more mature men who could provide and take responsibility if there was a pregnancy. Why are they condoned having sex with anybody before 18 in the first place? This is insanity.
Move to a state like New York where the age of consent is 16. At least there they're not criminalizing normal human behavior.

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posted February 12, 2011 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 12, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is ridiculous. Our grandparents were married at and having children at 13. That may not be healthy or ideal, but neither is what's happening now. There is the natural life cycle. People don't postpone puberty and hormones til they're 30. Yes, people are living longer now, but sex is sex and it doesn't matter if the other person is the same age or older-the damage, if ANY, is the SAME. I just don't get it. It's okay to have pre-marital sex and multiple partners that you barely know and put it all on your myspace, as long as they're the blind leading the blind, the same age??? That's what's happening today. I remember when people wanted their daughters involved with older more mature men who could provide and take responsibility if there was a pregnancy. Why are they condoned having sex with anybody before 18 in the first place? This is insanity.
Move to a state like New York where the age of consent is 16. At least there they're not criminalizing normal human behavior.

Thank you stillatlarge...for not judging...

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posted February 13, 2011 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't know the degrees then there's no point in trying to analyze it, as the exact birth/soul time has to be known in order to make the comparison charts between the two lovers.

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posted February 13, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
specialist...I realize this, and I removed the chart...I don't consider them 'lovers' anyway...they are more like 'best friends', and I know they are 'soul mates'...they have 2 very tight YODS in their charts, which indicates 'FATE'..

What really blows me away, is that the 'so-called' astrologers, and/or the ones 'studying' astrology wouldn't be interested in 2 fated Yods in Synastry...but it just goes to show how 'seriously' they are involved in 'real' Astrology...

They have beautiful synastry...

His Uranus at 24 CAP 24'31, Pluto at 25 SC 23'41, and her DNA at 25 GE 23'41...1234? hmmm Funny that 5 is a very common number in their Synastry...

His Mars at 8 GE 30'30, her Venus at 7 SC 20'55, and her Saturn at 7 CAP 20'51....

I don't know about some, but 'real' Astrologers find this quite interesting...especially when she has dreamed of him twice that she remembers...once as a little girl, and another a few weeks ago...she was sad, and he was holding her hand, and they were surrounded by water....Atlantis??? hmmm

Kat

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posted February 13, 2011 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Atlantis?! That lost civilization? What does that have to do with this topic, ?

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posted February 14, 2011 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She looks like his mother.

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posted February 14, 2011 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steam:
She looks like his mother.


LOL Your glasses must be 'steamed' up...

Kat

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posted February 14, 2011 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Atlantis?! That lost civilization? What does that have to do with this topic, ?

specialist...from a spiritual standpoint...alot...but I am not wasting anymore of my time of this topic...too many 'close-minded' people, and negative energy...tata!

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posted February 14, 2011 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it interesting that that 'lost' civilization of Atlantis seems to have something to do with astrology, I'm not sure how that can be.

How, can a civilization just like that, like magic, disappear? It's like the Greeks and the Romans, what happened to them, why did their civilization cease to exist?

I know they say that we have to learn from the past, otherwise we'll be doomed to repeat it. There's a lot to be learned from the Greeks, I agree with their philosophies. Well, some of them, not all.

I think the Greeks developed their mythologies by looking up at the sky. We humans (well I don't know I'm just speculating) seem to think that God is in the sky, that the heaven is in the sky, so I would hypothizie that the Greeks would look up at the skies, see the stars and the planets, thinkto themselves " how can these incomprehensible objects exist> " .... they're inthe sky, so that has to be something special, perhaps mystical, magical, and.... maybe even a god. A celestial objest. That's how I think the Greeks developed their mythology, and then they wrote stories on how they think all those planets (gods) would act with each other, maybe through their dreams.

Later on, when scientists developed scientific telescopes to see the sky in more detail, they took the great Greek philosopies to name these planets and constilations, and that's, maybe, how we came to the theory of astrology? I'm just hypothizing, not sure, like, you know for sure.

It would be nice to know though, like you know, all the secrets, who wouldn't want the comfort of knowing what your heavenly father wants of you? That's a nice thing to know, in some ways,and in some ways not.

I was thinking of something else today, about the skies and the heavens and the celestial objests, and of god. ....... I think god, whoever, whatever, and whereever he is, might have made everything, all the skies and all the sky's objests and mankind. I think he made the first few humans, and then left us to make ourselves, to choose who we want to love and mate with, survival of the fittest. Then, in some circumstances, if we pray to god in our time of trouble and need, he might make an extra effort with you, and help you settle your life.

I.E. we have choice in our life, our problems aren't because God made us that way, it's because we made ourselves that way.

Why is there cruelty in the world? It is because God is cruel?

No. Never think that.

It's because humans choose cruel partners, cruel lovers, cruel friends, and feed off of each other's cruelty. They make themselves worse, and are, because of their group, afraid to be good, because, then, because of their goodness, they'll be ostricized. That's not good. You have to be strong enough to be good. That way, you yourself will be good, and you'll influcence thouse around you to be as good as they can be, so that in the future, the bullies will get weeded out, and the good ones will succeed.

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posted February 14, 2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
specialistangel- A lot of people find connections in their charts in regards to Atlantis. I think these are called starseeds, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't read much about it because I've never felt the connections others have to Atlantis. Many have dreams about past lives there that others can support with dreams and past life regressions of their own. The asteroid Atlantis also seems to be prominent in their charts.

I also like what you wrote in response to the thread.

BRK- I don't know much about yods But looking at the third house/mercury can reveal much about how we communicate. Also the third house ruler and the dispositer of mercury. I never answered the question in regards to astrology because I felt this was a just a phase they were going through that they would eventually work out.
I very much agree with what you wrote about love and the other girls his age in town. We have similar views on things, but I do notice differences in places. That's not a bad thing

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posted February 14, 2011 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blonderiverkat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 14, 2011 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for specialistangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly is a starseed? Who discovered it and why is there some connection with a mysterious starseed to a lost civilization nobody know anything concrete about?

If you call (whoever gave it that name) an asteroid Atlantis, does that automatically mean that (because of the name someone arbitrarily gave it) that it has a connection with the ACTUAL Atlantis?

I think not.

Love them inofs, keep it flowing hinder forth!

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posted February 15, 2011 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BRK- I know who IQ is. Very skilled man. I see nothing wrong with wanting to learn more about who your children are in relationships with via natal charts. That's not meddling. That's being a parent. If you then start talking to your kid and purposefully trying to affect your child's relationship esp. to your liking then that is meddling, unless of course they ask you to advice them and so on.

When you say you would have ended/tried to end the relationship (under different circumstances) yes that would be meddling, but honestly a parent is entitled to meddle in their child's life to some extent. Some parent's over do this and others don't do it enough.

specialist- If you want more information, research it. I am repeating what I have heard, I am not an expert on this. If you wish to critique everything you read at least back it up with something substantial and spare us your benign chatter.

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