posted May 12, 2014 01:47 PM            

Maybe OP intercepted these individuals before they have had time to mature. Maybe OP helped them mature more from being near them.

posted May 12, 2014 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
She's just feeling hurt by them.

The way I see Venus in Pisces is, they are impossible for one person to love. Many people love them and that's what you have to deal with and if you cannot, move onto another Venus. Goes with Venus Pisces territory and they have a hard time navigating it meaning you will get caught up in it too so be prepared.
It's the sign of Venus's exaltation means they will have a lot of Venusian in their life and will be strongly Venusian.
Too much Venus is difficult to handle unless you can be numb, put a smile on your face, like to be with people, like to share the spotlight and like to party like it's 1999 most of the time.
Venus is not about possessiveness or connection as much as about parties and having a good time. If someone has strong Venus, especially exalted, they can be admired and loved by a lot of people and that can be difficult to deal with for them and for the people who know them.

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I can understand it now.

posted May 12, 2014 04:57 PM            

Personally, I find it difficult to date water suns. So I don't. I keep them as friends and that's it.

I had a Cancer x who was like that. Not that he cheated and lied but when we argued he would go on to list everything I've ever done wrong in my life. He tried to manipulate and twist things so it was all solely my fault.

That doesn't work with me. We each hold part of the blame and we each have things to fix/work on. Not him....

posted May 13, 2014 12:14 AM            

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Originally posted by heavenlyhera:
Has anyone ever been with a person who has Venus in Pisces, regardless of their sun sign and other planets..have you ever noticed most Venus in Pisces men display the same traits and use the same manipulation tactics to get their way or excuse their horrible behavior?

I've dated 4 guys with Venus in Pisces. All of them have been horrible lovers and on top of that all of them have done the same thing. They've been nasty people and they try and excuse their behavior by playing this victim role. If they do something wrong (like cheat,lie, mind games,ect) they'll make you feel like you're the bad person. They'll start off by pouting around and being distant, then minute you do/say one thing wrong. They'll milk it all they can. They go around searching for people to sympathize with them and they'll make up tall tales about the other person. And you'll find the men usually attaches to women for sympathy. They'll never admit they had any wrong doings. They won't admit the fact that the reason the girl is not nice anymore is because he cheated on her??

It's horrible. Because there are two types of people. People who do bad things and try to find every excuse in the book to make it seem acceptable and get a posse of people to feel sad for them. Then there are the people who say..."I f*cked up. Big time. I am so sorry. I want to make this right. What can I do?" And those people don't go to their friends to sympathy or pity parties. They suck it up and will go distances to make it up for the person because they genuinely do care for them.

I can't sit by anymore and listen to all this big talk about the Pisces lover is the true lover and what not. Total bullsh*t. Trust me, they'll go out of their way and do wonderful beautiful things for you in the beginning. That's only because they feel so vulnerable with you. But the minute they feel secure in your love for them. They won't treat you the same way anymore. Maybe it's because the reality of true love/devotion can't be shown through materialistic things alone (i.e., poems, music, art, ect.) But true love is shown through the tests of time. I feel like they love the beginning stages..writing poems, making art to express themselves, and writing gorgeous songs about how crazy they are about you and how it's forever. But truth is, it's not forever. It's for fun for them. It makes their dream world colourful, but when reality hits in..they want out. They don't want true love.They don't want to face consequences for things they've done wrong. They want to live in this made up selfish world in their head and not think about the way they make other people feel. They only care about being the good person. Doesn't matter if they backstab the one person that does love them. If for one minute they feel like an amazing guy and the superman of every girls dream. They'll toss whoever under the bus to feed that dream.

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I was reading your post and immediately thought of my father; so, I plugged in his info minus birth time. He has Sun/Venus/Mercury in Pisces. He has demonstrated the Piscean shadow side through out his life and in mine as per the platonic father/daughter dynamic.

I am quite Neptunian as I have Moon is Pisces and Venus conjunct Neptune. BUT I am hugely ethical. Venus and Neptune are in Sagittarius, Venus sextiles Aqua Jupiter, and Libra Pluto. Saturn biquintiles Venus, but that is minor. Sun conjuncts Uranus. I am a terrible liar, actress, and can't do the whole self deception thing.

Also, my mother is a Cappy whose Saturn sits on my Virgo Ascendant; so, you know delusion, self pity, and deception was not permitted in my childhood.

Just so you know, I am 40 and my father is 68 and I am a hell of a lot more self aware and wise than he could ever be.

Anyway, I apologize for the novel. I just want you to know I do have some idea of which you have had to cope. Just a suggestion: look at your natal and progressed charts WITH transits during each crappy relationship. It might give you some insight as to WHY you keep attracting and engaging with these same sort of partners.

posted May 13, 2014 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by MetalAphrodite:
I had a Venus in Pisces ex. He was terrible, but the thing is that I believe that not all Piscean Venus men like this.

Maybe OP intercepted these individuals before they have had time to mature. Maybe OP helped them mature more from being near them.

Anyway, I wish you healing. Much love to you <3.

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Very true.

posted May 13, 2014 12:23 AM            

Honestly I find neptunian and Venusian energy to be deceptive. Pisceans are kinda like libra. They want to please. They easily pick up ppl's feelings and morph into another person. And then one day they realize you are not the perfection they seek. A lot of it us unintentional but the hurt felt is real.

posted May 13, 2014 01:14 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I can understand it now.

I’m not sure whether many people love me or not, haha . I don’t find it difficult to reject people, but I still act normally around them, I don’t push them away. Falling in love makes people happy. I feel sad for them, so I don’t push them away.

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posted May 13, 2014 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I actually have two positive Venus in Pisces experiences… going off the signs alone they are more than giving and generous, and unselfish. They understand my needs without me having to tell them, but maybe it's because I've got the Capricorn, Scorpio, Pisces vibe going on with my aspects, and those signs tend to "gel" better with Pisces.

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posted May 13, 2014 02:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
That's a 5th house Saturn talking.

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posted May 13, 2014 03:14 AM            

The placement and aspects of Saturn,and also Capricorn planets make a big difference to the expression of a venus in pisces. I know people associate the sign pisces with Neptune but the traditional ruler of pisces is Jupiter. If Venus is in Jupiter's house, we have to see what the dispositor of venus is doing in the natal chart. Although this was an observation based on western charts, a venus in pisces in vedic astrology falls in 3 nakshatras, the last pada of the first nakshatra is ruled by Jupiter, the second nakshatra's 4 padas are ruled by Saturn, the auspicious feet it is called, the third nakshatra all 4 padas fall in pisces and are ruled by mercury. The expression of the said qualities of a pisces venus will then be influenced by the presiding rulers in the natal chart. I can only see a venus in pisces as a superficial lover if the person concerned has personality clashes with the other person, so it depends largely (and it matters to most venus in pisces guys)to what extent they can be friends with you.

posted May 14, 2014 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by heavenlyhera:
Has anyone ever been with a person who has Venus in Pisces, regardless of their sun sign and other planets..have you ever noticed most Venus in Pisces men display the same traits and use the same manipulation tactics to get their way or excuse their horrible behavior?

I've dated 4 guys with Venus in Pisces. All of them have been horrible lovers and on top of that all of them have done the same thing. They've been nasty people and they try and excuse their behavior by playing this victim role. If they do something wrong (like cheat,lie, mind games,ect) they'll make you feel like you're the bad person. They'll start off by pouting around and being distant, then minute you do/say one thing wrong. They'll milk it all they can. They go around searching for people to sympathize with them and they'll make up tall tales about the other person. And you'll find the men usually attaches to women for sympathy. They'll never admit they had any wrong doings. They won't admit the fact that the reason the girl is not nice anymore is because he cheated on her??

It's horrible. Because there are two types of people. People who do bad things and try to find every excuse in the book to make it seem acceptable and get a posse of people to feel sad for them. Then there are the people who say..."I f*cked up. Big time. I am so sorry. I want to make this right. What can I do?" And those people don't go to their friends to sympathy or pity parties. They suck it up and will go distances to make it up for the person because they genuinely do care for them.

I can't sit by anymore and listen to all this big talk about the Pisces lover is the true lover and what not. Total bullsh*t. Trust me, they'll go out of their way and do wonderful beautiful things for you in the beginning. That's only because they feel so vulnerable with you. But the minute they feel secure in your love for them. They won't treat you the same way anymore. Maybe it's because the reality of true love/devotion can't be shown through materialistic things alone (i.e., poems, music, art, ect.) But true love is shown through the tests of time. I feel like they love the beginning stages..writing poems, making art to express themselves, and writing gorgeous songs about how crazy they are about you and how it's forever. But truth is, it's not forever. It's for fun for them. It makes their dream world colourful, but when reality hits in..they want out. They don't want true love.They don't want to face consequences for things they've done wrong. They want to live in this made up selfish world in their head and not think about the way they make other people feel. They only care about being the good person. Doesn't matter if they backstab the one person that does love them. If for one minute they feel like an amazing guy and the superman of every girls dream. They'll toss whoever under the bus to feed that dream.

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posted May 14, 2014 03:16 AM              

Probably one of the loveliest people I knew has this pisces stellium in the 12th house.

He definitely helped me through some hard times..
He's sort of this magical drifter that comes into peoples
lives.

But I'm biased I love Pisces energy a lot.

posted May 14, 2014 05:05 AM            

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Originally posted by visions:
i am pisces off by those who are pisces off of pisces venus....

i love my pisces venus!

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LOL!

I have a water venus so I could probably date another water venus. My longest relationship was with a cancer venus. But I can't do the sun. My fire sun doesn't like it so much.

We had fire/fire sun, water/water venus. The other personals were fire/earth/air mixes.

posted May 14, 2014 05:20 AM              

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ lol, I’m pisces off too, somebody create a pisces appreciation thread!!

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posted May 15, 2014 03:39 AM            

I think you are right about the self-pity part, yet I never try and put this on anyone when it occurs with me. It's just something I have to shake myself out of, which is why I do other things, like exercise or see friends, play guitar.

I think Pisces are naturally deceptive to people because of how they blend into their surroundings, other people's personalities, but it does not mean they are void of morals. Most Pisces actually have a strong sense of morality, or beliefs anyways. The thing about Pisces is, "It's all relative." I've heard so many Pisces say this phrase, my grandfather when he was dying said that, my grandma, my aunt, my cousin, all Pisces.

posted May 15, 2014 03:52 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
I've met some ok pisces venus and some horrible ones.

Honestly I find neptunian and Venusian energy to be deceptive. Pisceans are kinda like libra. They want to please. They easily pick up ppl's feelings and morph into another person. And then one day they realize you are not the perfection they seek. A lot of it us unintentional but the hurt felt is real.

I've decided at this point that neptunian and libran ppl are not gonna chill my saturn depositor even though I'm somewhat Venusian and neptunian myself

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Interesting observation, I have multiple planets in Pisces but my most dominant planet is Saturn (in Sag.) in my chart. Neptune is second, but is in Capricorn. Yes, Pisces flow with their environment and other people, on the surface at least, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that I have a strong internal critic going on. I get very annoyed by people and their actions and don't have a problem letting them know if need be. I just try not to let it get the best of me.