posted March 11, 2011 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
^ lol I have three placements in libra and I am anything BUT shallow.

Might be cos your stellium is squaring libra placements lol.

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posted March 13, 2011 02:46 PM            

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I don't think my distaste for most things Libran has anything to do with my past, they just bug me...LOL (except for the Moon placement, for some reason). Anywho, I have a stellium in Cancer so any person who's all about appearances (eg. shallow) is gonna annoy the crap out of me.

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I'm a 7th house Moon...and all things Libra annoy me. I understand the Libra Moons...but from a mental standpoint they are VERY shallow...plus they always need to be in relationships (which yes as a 7th house Moon I get and have done in the past)...but still its shallow. I have a Libra Sun/Asc/Mars roommate with Leo Moon and Scorp Venus who annoys me to no end. She HAS to be the center of attention even if its bad. For instance we went out drinking downtown and before that went to trivia and she got drunk at like 8pm while everyone wasn't drunk then later at the bars continued to get wasted call herself a wh*ore and talk about how she is good in bed and that she just wanted a d*ck, despite the fact that She LOVES her boyfriend...keep in mind this is around other guys. Then she was all over the Cancer guy I'm into. When we confronted it about her the next day she was like oh it was because I was wasted (which I have been...but I've never called myself a wh*re).

Yeah, I think the Cancer guy is an Aqua Moon...in guys I like it. Like I said I think he has a thing for a friend of his that just got out of a relationship. So I'm kinda trying to get rid of my attraction to him as it kinda seems like a moot point to me. Plus he doesn't talk freely with me...like there is a level of reserve I can't quite put my finger on. He's friendly with everyone. And then me not so much. We have an icky Venus Saturn Opposition.

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@Grlygirl: I think in terms of exes, I believe that they served their purpose in the relationship and its time to move on. It doesn't mean I won't be friendly with them if we run into eachother (granted thats only IF things ended REALLY amicably), but I don't really actively go out of my way to stay in contact with an ex. I'm actually pretty weird for a Cancer, once I realize things are past the point of salvaging then I can very easily let go of the person and move on. It must be the mutable Venus/Moon. What I can't let go of is the ideal of a partner that I have in my head....probably why I'm frequently single.

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posted March 13, 2011 03:36 PM            

And re: the exes....'discard' is kind of a strong word. Especially since alot of the time it's a mutual thing. I don't know, I guess its easier for me to move on from what was the relationship that way. Its just kind of awkward for me to go right from being romantically involved to being friends. If that were to happen, particularly if there were strong feelings involved, it would have to be a gradual thing where some time passed in between. I have a 5th house Gemini Venus though, so I could consider the friends' route if it was one of those cheesy RomCom break-ups where we just realized we were great friends but not great lovers. He has an earth moon AND venus and both in water houses, so he may be quite different.

posted March 14, 2011 05:49 PM            

I do think at the end of the day that perhaps the all of nothing of his 8th house Moon is what caused things. I too have an Earth moon and Venus...BUT my Venus and Moon are both in Air houses. Plus my Sun and Mars are in fire houses. So I see what you are saying about how he could be different. The Romcom analogy was cute btw lol.

posted March 14, 2011 07:01 PM            

And re: Aqua guy, that's what it sounds like more to me. I mean, I can understand why you had to break-up with him (trying to lift people up with no results can get draining) but he probably didn't at the time. Did he ever give a reason (even indirectly...the cowardly way) why he doesn't want to talk anymore?

posted March 14, 2011 07:59 PM            

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I gotta be honest...this kinda made me a little sad. I know its stupid to admit that I still miss my Aqua Sun/Virgo Moon ex...but I guess I always hoped that he maybe still cared a little for me. But looking at how you are and how you tend to discard people when you don't want them (which I'm guessing is what Virgo influenced people do) it is quite hurtful to know that is what he probably did and wouldn't even think twice about me nor probably even remember me.

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You say it like it's fact. I have three planets in libra in 7th house. And even when I was 15, I was alot more mature than most people my age. I was never frivilous and superficial. I had depth.

That COULD be contributed to my 8th house pluto in scorp and moon conjunct venus? I also have some stabilising saturn aspects.
I don't know? I just know that what you're saying about libra moons is WRONG bc I know a few libra moons, and none of us are superficial or flighty.

posted March 15, 2011 12:05 AM            

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pretentious luxury yet earthy and laidback

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posted March 19, 2011 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Oh whoa, for a while there I thought I was the only one that had consistent bad vibes with Libra sun folk, for whatever reason. ...I have noticed a distinct shallowness in all three - there was definitely a propensity to speak so highly about the better angels of human nature, while going ahead and engaging in really petty, hurtful things behind peoples' backs.

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You're not the only one. I've had huge fights with a few, mostly with Venus in Scorpio.

posted March 19, 2011 11:51 PM            

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I'm beginning to realize that its pretty much every earth venus (except Taurus) that ends up grating on my nerves. Particularly if they're already earth-heavy to begin with. Never met a more judgemental/callous bunch of people. Taurus may be the exception to the rule because it's dignified? I like them.... they're calming, have nice voices, and are good shopping buddies

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I soooo agree...but I'm a tad bit biased. I'm a Taurus Venus in the 11th...so not only am I pretty accepting when in a relationship I'm also not at all possessive or have the negative traits of Taurus due to my 11th house being ruled by Venus. I will agree that Cap Venus and Virgo are VERY picky physically. And dating them is very hard. I have a guy who has a Cap Venus and Virgo Mars but is a Sag...with Gemini Moon (Scorp Mercury) who I suggested we just have fun and not try to be a couple as I just think it'd be easier for him (he is a Sag afterall lol). He freaked out on me and logged off of messenger and refuses to answer my messages lol. And then Virgo Venus...if you aren't EXACTLY what they want physically they will walk away even if they have feelings for you. I've seen this with Cap too...I guess the Taurus part of me makes me excepting of most things...but I guess I just don't understand Virgo Venus and Cap Venuses need to make things SOOOO complicated lol.

posted March 20, 2011 12:25 AM            

One of my dear relatives is an Aqua with a Virgo Moon/Cap Venus and I love her to death but she can be sooooo judgemental. When I was in middle school and still stuck on sun signs, I wondered how an Aquarius could be that way...LOL. The answer is in front of me now.

posted March 20, 2011 02:19 PM            

I'm going to interject here a bit, just for a change of perspective on this whole thing.

I'm a Virgo Venus and I do not only go for 'model types.' HOWEVER, that being said, I feel that it is sometimes very hard for me to describe to people what exactly is 'sexy' or 'attractive' to me because everyone assumes that it is always PHYSICAL (especially air signs).

It is not only looks, it is overall presentation, demeanor, and the way a person treats other people. When I try to explain this to an air sign, I get laughed at. So instead I just say: "Yeah, it's because you aren't attractive enough, rich enough, etc." (I once did that to a Capricorn guy friend of mine because I knew that he already assumed I had dated this other guy because he was wealthy. Clearly, he had no clue what really went on).

I will literally give people what I think they want to hear (Oh yeah, it's because he looks like a model) just so they get off of my back about it. It annoys me. What is attractive is subjective to people, and personally, I always always ALWAYS go for personality and connection to a person over looks.

That being said, I do think I can contribute to this thread because I am a Virgo Venus and I actually dated a Gemini Venus (it even squared my Venus).

I admired the Gemini Venus because he was versatile, seemed sweet, and wasn't overblown in his ego (like some of the Scorpios, Leos, Aquariuses I've known). Unfortunately, he lived up to the stereotype that I have of Gemini Suns in that he turned out to be a liar. I found out that he was cheating on his actual girlfriend with me (and of course, I had no clue), and once I found that out, I cut him out of my life entirely. I sometimes don't like the fickleness of air signs and the seeming lightness with which they take their closest relationships. Not everything has to be serious, but you should be able to honor your contacts with others and be respectful of others.

posted March 21, 2011 08:07 PM            

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And LOL...I think I may be one of the few serious Gem Venuses. Dishonesty like that makes my blood curdle, can't stand to be around those type of people.

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And like I said... I don't think that all Geminis or air signs are dishonest, but many of the ones I've met ARE (unfortunately). I think this is partially because a lot of the air signs I do know are like super charged air signs, and they will have 5 or 6 planets in air which usually means that they are super detached. I probably attract them because I have 5 planets in fire.

You are lucky to have the fire and water influence as that will make it easier for you to empathize with others.

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That's cool if you aren't that way...I just find them hard to relate to as a Gemini Venus.

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Well, you have to keep in mind, my Virgo Venus and Sun are HEAVILY aspected by almost every outer planet in my chart, so it gives me a bit more depth than the average Virgo. Plus I have tons of fire.

I can see what you mean about Virgos just because I have been friends with other Virgos in the past. Some of them ARE very superficially judgmental, but, if they are, it's usually because they are super-insecure.

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I've found most Virgo Venuses to be very superficially judgemental. Quantity over quality isn't quite the right phrase, but you get the idea.

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I'm not trying to say that Virgos are exempt from nastiness. Usually what they do is find some superficial reason to pick on others because they are jealous or insecure or whatever, and they just don't want to admit the bigger problem that they have (because it's often a problem that they have with themselves, with Virgos being the perfectionists we are).

I think the main thing about it is that most Virgos (of any type) are very opinionated and they know what they want. Very likely a good chunk of them (especially the Venuses) would like to have a 'model type' because it denotes that the person in question is striving for 'perfection,' (or just so happened to hit the genetic lottery) though just in looks. Venus is all about looks and the surface. I think the more 'evolved' or 'deep' Virgo Venuses are more concerned about striving toward 'perfection' in LOVE (unconditional, freely given, etc) versus the looks aspect of it.

IMAGE can also be important to Virgo Venuses, and they very likely want to project the image that they are successful in life, and a 'hot' partner would help them achieve that. Venus=looks/surface/image. Virgo=striving for perfection/deciding what is really relevant or important to the individual. Put them together and you have someone who wants what looks like the 'best.' Doesn't mean that it IS the best... Virgos usually like to portray to others that they have a happy little home life, even when they don't. It's a stubborn self-reliant, 'I have no vulnerabilities' thing.

Plus, sometimes a good looking partner does denote someone who is confident, hygienic , and takes good care of themselves. What's not to like, in that respect? It's only the Virgos that LIMIT themselves to only that genre of people that are truly missing out. And in that case, you should feel free to feel self-righteous yourself because you probably have a partner and they don't.

Virgos can play a bit on other peoples' insecurities in that way, which I think is why they grate so much on everyone's nerves. Virgos want what THEY VIEW as 'the best' and so everyone else gets snubbed. Like I said though... Doesn't mean it IS the best, and it IS limiting. It also doesn't mean that the Virgo can obtain it (may not stop them from trying though).

So did that help a bit? Doesn't mean you'll be able to relate to them any better or like them any better, but maybe at least you might understand a bit more about where some of us are coming from.

posted March 21, 2011 08:56 PM            

I was once decieved by a Gem Sun/Mars/Mercury in a similar way to you so I don't disagree that the duplicity exists. It shouldn't have been a suprise given the little things that kept popping up along the way that he neglected to tell me (like being WANTED in another country). Evolution and whether there's enough of other influences for empathy does seem to be key here.