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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 05, 2011 05:00 PM I realize from the 11th house thread on Saturn,that Saturn threw cold water on the sign of Scorpio,for me. All things Scorpio are hard for me to access although I must. Saturn allows me to lay claim to Scorpio but I must do it very slowly as Saturn does things. Each inch I must work for very assiduously. Please ,tell me what Saturn does to the sign it is in --in your chart. Thank you! ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1914 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009	posted March 05, 2011 08:57 PM The theory is that the sign you're saturn is in are the traits you totally frown upon, are not secure expressing, or just clearly lack. I thought it was true re: my Sagittarian Saturn but not so much now when I really think about it. I'm very interested in 9th house subjects even though I have nothing in the 9th house, for instance. I dunno, it could also be because saturn is my chart ruler and in the 12th house which kinda dissolves its traditional qualities a bit. IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted March 05, 2011 11:50 PM I feel very at home with Capricorn, with half my chart there I would. However it's the 3rd house that I don't really like the energy. I hate to write essays, I have messy handwriting and am rather socially awkward. My Saturn makes a 4 deg sextile to my Pluto and it cj Venus (2deg) and Mars (6deg). So it's well supported. Saturn is the final dispositor of everything in my chart except for Pluto(Sco) and my Jupiter/Moon mutual reception. I think Cap/Aqua are the signs that would be the easiest to have Saturn in because the are linked to Saturn, maybe Libra too. ------------------ He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio... Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!! IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 147 From: Everywhere :) Registered: Dec 2010	posted March 06, 2011 04:45 AM Hey Ami sweetie. Here are some pretty good links on Saturn in Scorpio, hope these help ! http://books.google.com/books?id=Z0nnE2IP7A4C&pg=PA145&lpg=PA145&dq=saturn+in+water+signs&source=bl&ots=IrcFl5A6A6&sig=16pXLRaNz4HnHYPurEgfF81TKio&hl=en&ei=YU1zTaXTBo3fsgafkZiEDg&s a=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=saturn%20in%20water%20signs&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=U9yyl5cva6UC&pg=PA134&lpg=PA134&dq=saturn+in+scorpio+book&source=bl&ots=qZ2XgyZxMI&sig=FchMnFASOtT47H525bD9n7TXJqI&hl=en&ei=DE5zTdGoGcf1sgbh_JmEDg& sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFcQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=saturn%20in%20scorpio%20book&f=false LOL the links are like 5 meters long, sorry . This one is a good one I think : http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017499.html IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Knowflake Posts: 147 From: Everywhere :) Registered: Dec 2010	posted March 06, 2011 04:48 AM By the way, did you know that your Saturn conjuncts my Sun and Mercury ? Mercury being my chart ruler While my Saturn is right on your IC .. wonder what that means. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 06, 2011 08:25 AM Thank you (((Doux))) I will study the info,later. The Saturn's in our charts are interesting I have a respect for Saturn.I have learned lessons rich in wisdom from his trials but TRIALS they were lol ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 143 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted March 06, 2011 10:29 AM I have Saturn in Sag and I'm very Sagittarian. although, Saturn is the ruler of my Sun, plus I have a 9th house Sun/Mercury... It's hard to tell. IP: Logged
Cynnared Knowflake Posts: 727 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 06, 2011 04:03 PM I have Saturn in Taurus in the 12th. Right now I'm working with my introverted side and incorpertaing it into the world and my family life. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 05:19 PM I find the birth of Scorpio to be one of the most painful things ever. I could live in the realm of Neptune forever if Pluto did not intrude in the form of my own desires and ego as well as those of others. Pluto never seems to go away.It pesters you until you master it. Maybe, the best you can do is put him on a velvet leash. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 05:23 PM You can't really have Neptune w/out Pluto. You will be thwarted at every step until you give up in sheer despair and realize Pluto is not going away without making you shake his hand. He forces you to be his friend . If not, he will trip you every time. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 05:28 PM Pluto is a big baby to be born. He has a slow and laborious birth. To me, he is all things ugly.Maybe, I will see beauty in him if he sticks around for a while. I suppose there is beauty in the ugly things of the world if you look hard enough or long enough. Perhaps,not,perhaps they are just ugly and that is all it is. I suspect that is the case. We,as humans, were made for Neptune. We,just ended up on earth through a series of mistakes. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 05:35 PM I feel embarrassed that I did not see Pluto ,before. I had to see him through sheer humiliation. Why does Pluto come so hard? Is it cuz I am uber Neptunian? My Pluto could go on a killer rampage. It would make it's hit list and machine gun people,one by one. I suppose that would be Pluto,wouldn't it? ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 05:37 PM My Pluto has a three piece black ,triple breasted suit. I think he is OK once you get over the shock of him. He is scarred by knife fights and gun fights but he displays the scars,proudly. Why not? ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 07:56 PM My Pluto knows real things and my Neptune knows dreams. Is it better to be Plutonian or Neptunian? Is it the yin and the yang? One becomes the other and back and forth. The theory is unintelligible but you know in your heart. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 08:34 PM My Pluto was resigned to the basement while the dinner party was upstairs. What was wrong with him,anyway? He could stay hidden,when need be. He is like a slip.You wear it under your dress so your dress looks better. Sometimes,it shows just a little. Pluto is like that. Then,you can stay in your pretty dress, all buttoned up. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 09:03 PM This is it. I want to feel what I feel and know what I know. If someone violates me, I want to kick them. I want to kick them away so they don't do it ,again. Neptune is the Earth mother with abundant arms and breasts. Pluto drop kicks you . Is that bad or is it just how it is on this earth, fallen as it is? ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 09:08 PM I think the answer is that it can NEVER be right by the nature of how it is ,life. You can play by the rules and it will take a turn right as you think you have it , wrapped up in some way known to you. I think you are spinning out of control in a galaxy known only to God. You matter as one particle but you are part of a huge constellation out of control for your particular purposes. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 09:15 PM I am on a ride, the rollercoaster, the ferris wheel. I feel a little sick as I sit in my seat. It is spinning. I dont't like fast rides.I never have but I can't get off until it stops. Those are the rules. I am just a rider. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 09:20 PM I have worried about getting off,how it will be,the specifics. You know what I mean, the ultimate getting off ,of the ride ,I mean. You worry and worry and you will probably slip away as you slip in to a good dream. I hope so in an ordered world where things make sense to the smallest detail. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 09:44 PM Your Pluto must drop kick, when need be. It is the nature of things just like you are alone, the nature of things,again. It is not a bedtime story that sits well with your child's heart. We want it to turn out well,if we follow the rules. The rules dissolve if we look too closely and then what do we have? ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 07, 2011 10:18 PM Bedtime stories, lullabies, someone to kiss you goodnight, a grandma, a lover. I like to think of things like this,things that turn out right. As I fall asleep, I think of people I love, people I have loved. I wish I could make them behave right like puppets . Then ,none would go wrong . ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted March 08, 2011 01:52 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Pluto is a big baby to be born. He has a slow and laborious birth. To me, he is all things ugly.Maybe, I will see beauty in him if he sticks around for a while. I suppose there is beauty in the ugly things of the world if you look hard enough or long enough. Perhaps,not,perhaps they are just ugly and that is all it is. I suspect that is the case. We,as humans, were made for Neptune. We,just ended up on earth through a series of mistakes. What is ugly, What is beautiful. Strip back what is supossed to be considered nice and you find the inside is rotten to the core. Ugly is real, Ugly can be the most beautiful thing when you look past the outside and see the true heart of it. Plutonian desire is natural. Neptunian desire is just an inconvenience to me. One day I will die but I'm alive and I have to make the best of it and Neptune is just a waste of my time and emotional energy. I have a copy on Liz Greene's Neptune book in which it describes our longing to go back to a primal mother or search for a redeemer. As a Pisces I never wanted to be here. Being incarnated hurts too much. I really don't have time for all that ****, it just gets in the way... I know that no one will give me my innocence back, no one is ever coming to save me and that, I through Pluto,Saturn and Mars must save and redeem myself. ------------------ He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio... Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!! IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted March 08, 2011 02:12 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I find the birth of Scorpio to be one of the most painful things ever. I could live in the realm of Neptune forever if Pluto did not intrude in the form of my own desires and ego as well as those of others. Pluto never seems to go away.It pesters you until you master it. Maybe, the best you can do is put him on a velvet leash. Take your desires and indulge them (unless they can get you in trouble). The more you fight your desires the more cut up about it you will become. Pluto is about power but it's also about surrender and powerlessness. Accepting you have things about yourself that are not "nice" or socially acceptable is part of Pluto. You have Saturn in Scorpio, you have the task of mastering Scorpio. Saturn's lessons are hard fought but worth it, same with Pluto. There is no such thing as an easy lesson with Saturn. ------------------ He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio... Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!! IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted March 08, 2011 02:32 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This is it. I want to feel what I feel and know what I know. If someone violates me, I want to kick them. I want to kick them away so they don't do it ,again. That's normal for Plutonians. There is NOTHING wrong with feeling like this, I do all the time. quote: Neptune is the Earth mother with abundant arms and breasts. Pluto drop kicks you . Is that bad or is it just how it is on this earth, fallen as it is?[/B] Neptune is also a devouring sea monster, who wishes to destroy it's progeny and make one incapable. Pluto can turn you from lead into gold. The loss may be great but the reward is worth it. It is not bad at all. just because stuff makes you uncomfortable doesn't make it bad. You learn nothing when things are good. E.g - I have Sun trine Jupiter. It does me no good, it makes me lazy. ------------------ He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio... Late Degree Scorpio Rising FTW!!! IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7295 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 08, 2011 05:56 AM Thank you (((Angler) for taking the time,energy and heart to hear me. You understand and that takes me one step further in my journey. Bless you ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged

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