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PlutoSquared
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posted March 23, 2011 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
As I said, we can agree to disagree. I do find it interesting that you so vehemently defend predictive astrology, yet you are moving away from it. When you read further along into Star Signs, you may see my side more clearly.


Well, you probably don't understand my motivation. I'm playing "devil's advocate" on a very interesting subject...

My personal view is that all predictions whether pleasant or unpleasant are potentially detrimental to someone's life...

I will not pick and choose what's wrong or right, put down a Vedic astrologer, or uplift myself...either it is all potentially wrong, or it is all o.k. in my mind...

You can't have it both ways.

I will find a story of a historically famous astrologer who was put to the test... he had to make a death prediction, and had he not would have been put to death... was an interesting story...

I'm sure I'll be able to dig up more history about the use of astrology to predict death...

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posted March 23, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm talking about telling someone that they will die. That, to me, is inexcuseable for someone in the esoteric arts. But we can agree to disagree. Telling someone there will be a natural disaster isn't the same thing, as it won't cause said disaster. But if you plant the seed of death, most people will obsess over it and make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. IMHO, it's irresponsible, and it's no better than the dark side of voodoo...Randall


I agree 100%

The first thing I learned (besides astro glyphs) was ethics, my teacher wouldn't even proceed untill I got that down. It is most important.

Pluto squared, you must be one of those "self taught" astrologers who skipped "ethics"

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posted March 23, 2011 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:

I agree 100%

The first thing I learned (besides astro glyphs) was ethics, my teacher wouldn't even proceed untill I got that down. It is most important.

Pluto squared, you must be one of those "self taught" astrologers who skipped "ethics"


You are so shallow Lala. I would never take an insult from you seriously. But, keep trying... I can see your motivations crystal clear.

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posted March 23, 2011 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd rather be shallow
than a wannabe

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posted March 23, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'd rather be shallow
than a wannabe

That was very immature. But, of course YOU would care whether or not you were accepted by the mainstream...

I don't care whether or not I am a "wannabe" as I don't have the arrogance to walk around and put other astrologers down.

That's very poor form, as we are all in the process of learning.

So, you can take your shallow cheerleader values, whatever little stuck-up group of popular astrologers that you bow down to, and shove em.

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posted March 23, 2011 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look PS
if you want to be accepted by the "mainstream"
quit being so mean and insulting.

Have you ever thought about just being nice?

I would never put another Astrologer down
not even if I disagreed with them but you, well you're not quite there yet and you're doing more harm than good with your death predictions.

go study "ETHICS"

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posted March 23, 2011 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'd rather be shallow
than a wannabe

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posted March 23, 2011 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Look PS
if you want to be accepted by the "mainstream"
quit being so mean and insulting.

Have you ever thought about just being nice?

I would never put another Astrologer down
not even if I disagreed with them but you, well you're not quite there yet and you're doing more harm than good with your death predictions.

go study "ETHICS"


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posted March 23, 2011 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Look PS
if you want to be accepted by the "mainstream"
quit being so mean and insulting.

Have you ever thought about just being nice?

I would never put another Astrologer down
not even if I disagreed with them but you, well you're not quite there yet and you're doing more harm than good with your death predictions.

go study "ETHICS"


Don't sweep your motivations under the carpet, Lala. You have it out for me, which is cute... I must really threaten you.

But, honestly, I would rather be seen as brash and offensive, than to be in your group.

I also will never take any life direction from you.

Though, I'll predict that you are so disturbed by my willingness to discuss taboo subjects honestly, instead of the bright and breezy way that some will, as completely threatening...

Thus, you will try, and try, and try to conform me or demean me. Typical ego play.

For the record, I am nice. And, I give, and I have ethics. If you're not privy to see that, likely it's because you don't care to look and you're on a mission...

That makes me question YOUR ethics.

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posted March 23, 2011 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, Ami Anne... you are probably one of the biggest "wannabes" here, as you can't make a decision either without massive public support.

Get a backbone.

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posted March 23, 2011 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chill folks..

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posted March 23, 2011 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are nice, and you do have ethics
it must be somewhere else, because it isn't here.

here's my prediction for you

You are going to mess up somebody's life with your death predictions
and when they call you on it
you're going to deny it.

Go Study ETHICS

and Ami is not a wannabe
she is upfront about being a novice.

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posted March 23, 2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are absolutely right Soulful
my point has been made
I'm out of here.

Out! Astro Babes

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posted March 23, 2011 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
If you are nice, and you do have ethics
it must be somewhere else, because it isn't here.

here's my prediction for you

You are going to mess up somebody's life with your death predictions
and when they call you on it
you're going to deny it.

Go Study ETHICS

and Ami is not a wannabe
she is upfront about being a novice.


Well, thank goodness I'm not buying your prediction, as it could likely mess up my life.

I really don't like you, Lala. And, I don't like Ami Anne. I will never like the two of you... unless the both of you take your egos down a notch or two and stop playing groupie politics with me.

I will gladly accept apologies if you ever get there.

I have been very nice and ethical here, but, again, don't need to prove or disprove.

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posted March 23, 2011 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 23, 2011 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:

Giggle away, Barbie.

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posted March 23, 2011 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back on the subject... I think the intent of the astrologer is important to talk about...

Whether or not an astrologer has a purpose to talk about death...

Are they just being mean, and trying to freak someone out?

Or, was there an important reason to mention death within the reading... perhaps their intent was to spare someone misfortune.

I think that can determine the ethics of an astrologer... his or her true intentions.

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posted March 23, 2011 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
And, Ami Anne... you are probably one of the biggest "wannabes" here, as you can't make a decision either without massive public support.

Get a backbone.


I must have a backbone for as many people who hate me

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posted March 23, 2011 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I must have a backbone for as many people who hate me


Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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posted March 23, 2011 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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unless the both of you take your egos down a notch or two

Pluto Squared
Lalalinda is one of THE most beloved people on here.
There is NO other person on here but YOU who has a problem with her.
That should say something about YOUR ego.
I challenge any other person on LL to say they don't respect Lalalinda.
I challenge ANY other person on here to say Lalalinda has a big ego.
That points to you needing to look at why YOU are the only one who has a problem with her.

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posted March 23, 2011 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto Squared
Lalalinda is one of THE most beloved people on here.
There is NO other person on here but YOU who has a problem with her.
That should say something about YOUR ego.
I challenge any other person on LL to say they don't respect Lalalinda.
I challenge ANY other person on here to say Lalalinda has a big ego.
That points to you needing to look at why YOU are the only one who has a problem with her.

Stop gaslighting, Ami Anne. You are so manipulative, it's sickening. Just because you worship Lalalinda like Jesus Christ himself, doesn't mean that I have to...

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posted March 23, 2011 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Stop gaslighting, Ami Anne. You are so manipulative, it's sickening. Just because you worship Lalalinda like Jesus Christ himself, doesn't mean that I have to...


I admire Lalalinda ,greatly. She is warm,helpful, gracious,loving and lovely.
If she is one of my role models,I am PROUD of that fact.
I am glad I have people to admire in life.
That is part of having humility.
I admire those with humility such as Lalalinda.
I seek to have it although I fail a great deal in the process.


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posted March 23, 2011 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The truth is:

Ami Anne, is it so coincidental that you worship the 2 main people who have the biggest history at this site? No.

Is it so innocent that you use your affiliations with these people to cast your judgment towards people you don't like? No.

Is it obvious that you have personally been on my butt like white on rice, ever since I stopped being your friend, because I realized how manipulative you are? Nope.

Will it be surprising to anyone that you will continue to try to break me down, in order to make yourself feel better? I certainly hope not...

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posted March 23, 2011 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
The truth is Ami Anne, is it so interesting that you worship the 2 main people who have the biggest history at this site? No.

Is it so innocent that you use your affiliations with these people to cast your judgment towards people you don't like? No.

Is it obvious that you have personally been on my butt like white on rice, ever since I stopped being your friend, because I realized how manipulative you are? Nope.

Will it be surprising to anyone that you will continue to try to break me down, in order to make yourself feel better? I certainly hope not...


I love Randall and I love Lalinda. I love a lot of people on here.
I am proud of that fact.
There is no shame in that.
THEY have achieved something in life.
They have HONORABLE personality characteristics.
I admire people with character,ethics and integrity.
I am proud of that fact,not ashamed.
I aspire to those things myself.
I fail ,a great deal,so I will point that out before you do.
You need humility.That is YOUR problem.
Instead of facing that fact,you insult awesome people like Lalalinda.
I have nothing more to say.
You can trash me for the last word

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted March 23, 2011 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I love Randall and I love Lalinda. I love a lot of people on here.
I am proud of that fact.
There is no shame in that.
THEY have achieved something in life.
They have HONORABLE personality characteristics.
I admire people with character,ethics and integrity.
I am proud of that fact,not ashamed.
I aspire to those things myself.
I fail ,a great deal,so I will point that out before you do.
You need humility.That is YOUR problem.
Instead of facing that fact,you insult awesome people like Lalalinda.
I have nothing more to say.
You can trash me for the last word


Ami, you paint yourself into a corner every single time you try to get into a debate with me. EVERY DAY, you are looking for one more opportunity to get even with me, for some emotional issue that you have personally.

I'm guessing it has something to do with your OWN sense of accountability.

If you love these people so much, you would try to avoid getting into it with me, and focus on more positive activities - trying to emulate more of the character that you "aspire" to have.

You have made a lot of enemies because people don't trust you as far as they can throw you. And, I imagine it's because they see straight through that ivory tower you put yourself in... no, AMI, you are not innocent here.

As far as me and my ego and character, I feel you are completely out of your place to suggest to me how I should be or think or act. God gave me free will. You can't take that away.

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