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bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 26, 2011 06:45 AM
rajji,Three years ago I was in Vedic Astrology Forum and I must tell you the truth: I am very disappointed about that Astrology. I still love more Western Astrology. Vedic Astrology is good only in the case of giving advices, what is good for the health. That is all. Bobbie ------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7887 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 26, 2011 06:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by bonadea33: Pluto Squared,I wonder, if this Forum belongs to you? You behave so, as you are the only one here and have all right to criticize other Moderators and members. Please, don't touch Lalalinda and Ami Anne! You have no right to do that. You should go to the School for good behavior and manners: after that you could be a Moderator. Btw, in my Astromedical Book about death: We die because of certain Secondary Progressions and nothing else. B.
THANK YOU Darling Bobbie I am so touched that you would respond with your heart and soul like this for me. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7306 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2011 10:03 AM
I believe that we choose our birth to get the celestial map we need and irrespective of time...past, present, or future; likewise, death is a choice--on a subconscious level until we learn that death is not inevitable. Just my humble opinion.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 3850 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted March 26, 2011 11:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by bonadea33: Pluto Squared,I wonder, if this Forum belongs to you? You behave so, as you are the only one here and have all right to criticize other Moderators and members. Please, don't touch Lalalinda and Ami Anne! You have no right to do that. You should go to the School for good behavior and manners: after that you could be a Moderator. Btw, in my Astromedical Book about death: We die because of certain Secondary Progressions and nothing else. B.
Bondadea, these Mods started this with me because they couldn't handle my take on this subject. I will not apologize for defending myself. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 3850 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted March 26, 2011 11:34 AM
Why was this thread moved here, by the way? Who moved it and why?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 7306 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2011 12:48 PM
I didn't move it. It was probably moved due to it being an astrologically-based topic.------------------ "All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 1971 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted March 26, 2011 02:44 PM
There's a big difference between cautioning someone and telling them (erroneously) that they're going to die. Yes, ethics belongs with astrology ALWAYS. The reader has a RESPONSIBILITY to the querent whose money they're taking and whose life they might ruin otherwise. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 3850 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted March 26, 2011 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Benedict Moon*: There's a big difference between cautioning someone and telling them (erroneously) that they're going to die.
I don't disagree with that... As, a mistaken and misdirected "death" prediction holds a lot of weight... For that matter, any prediction does, though. IP: Logged |
abcd efg Knowflake Posts: 82 From: Mumbai,Maharashtra,India Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 26, 2011 04:00 PM
WHAT IS DEATH? How many of us are alive anyway? IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 3625 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2011 06:03 PM
Obviously we're talking about physical death. You know, the kind that happens when your head gets chopped off.IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 27, 2011 06:44 AM
My reaction (Sun square Mars) here was from the simple reason: I study death and had problems three times writing about death in different Forums.1. There was a Chart in one Forum (about three years ago) from female person, committing suicide. Her sister posted the Chart and asked members to explain, why her sister did it? That was my "chance" to explain in details (I have studied suicides and I still do). After that two members have criticized me from the reason that many people are reading that Forum and I shouldn't write that way. OK, I have stopped there to write about any kind of death. I am no member there from some other reason (member, again) 2. In German Forum I wrote again about different kinds of death and also about suicide. There was again one member writing to me, it is not good theme for one Forum. I have stopped. 3. As I was searching Medical Astrology Forums, I found one, where was big discussion about one woman having cancer and how she did fight to survive. On the end she died (after two years). As she was member of that Forum, her case was well explained. Her year of birth was critical year (I have seen that many people, born that year died unusual death). About that critical year I wrote in one other Forum. I had no idea that Moderator was born the same year. This time was Moderator that criticized me. I left the Forum. Ruler of my ASC, Venus in 8th: of course I am interested about death. Beside that I have my personal experiences about 8th house. Now, I study death just for myself. This year I write only here (if I have some idea). I have deleted all my membership elsewhere. Bobbie
------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
abcd efg Knowflake Posts: 82 From: Mumbai,Maharashtra,India Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 27, 2011 06:50 AM
r u serious lonake? Then u missed the point.IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 27, 2011 07:46 AM
Hi rajji,Out off Topic: I see something good in your Chart: Ruler of your 2nd (house of the money), Mercury in 2nd; Ruler of your 5th (Lotto and other games), Jupiter in 5th. Ruler of your 11th (government money - belongs to Lotto), Mercury in 2nd. Mercury has trine with Jupiter: why don't you play Lotto or some other money game? Mercury is not some big money, but better than nothing. You have soo nice 5th house. About death: there is enough time to think about death. Think about something better. Bobbie ------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
abcd efg Knowflake Posts: 82 From: Mumbai,Maharashtra,India Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 27, 2011 09:10 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lonake:I dunno about the manner of death, but I do believe that the date we die is predestined, similar to the day we're born which is also predestined. Everything in between is up for grabs, a bubbling cauldron with endless possibilities, that's where the fun in living comes from, just being alive and moving about and grappling with it all. Apparently all this emotion and all this change is supposed to be 'good times' lmao. I'll be happy when I finally get to rest.[/B][/QUOTE We choose everything. We choose 1) our birth (where we will be born, for what reasons and which karmas we want to burn out and which environment i.e. family etc will be suitable for this purpose). 2) Our life ('cause some things in our life we choose now and some we would have chosen earlier, either in this life or previous). 3) And even death. When how etc. Which karmas cannot be cleared now are carried forward for next lives. And sorry we do not get to rest, not really. Till this balance is tallied and much later -we really rest. Physical death cannot be real rest. How I wish, we could get to rest! pheewwwwww. And when we realise that the 'good times' that we experience here are not so good after all we want to turn to our original source. Like a child who doesn't want to play with the toys anymore but wants mama dear. Then we choose again to return to our mother-GOD and rest. Hmmmmmmm........Choice! Choice! Choice! So many choices....
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rajji Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted March 27, 2011 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by bonadea33: Hi rajji,Out off Topic: I see something good in your Chart: Ruler of your 2nd (house of the money), Mercury in 2nd; Ruler of your 5th (Lotto and other games), Jupiter in 5th. Ruler of your 11th (government money - belongs to Lotto), Mercury in 2nd. Mercury has trine with Jupiter: why don't you play Lotto or some other money game? Mercury is not some big money, but better than nothing. You have soo nice 5th house. About death: there is enough time to think about death. Think about something better. Bobbie
Okey bobbie...teach me how to play lotto?if you know. Yes you are absolutely right! I have read elsewhere that that I have great chances of winning in lotteries and jackpots..but I dont know how to go about it...will try later in life if I get a chance. My chart says im going to acquire considerable money to live a comfortable life in old age..but nothing quite like that has happened yet. Bobbie do you know how to do progressions to ones chart to arrive at a specific degree? For example Aries11degrees58 min now how to do progressions to this point? Oh! U dint tell me if you have any children? IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 27, 2011 12:46 PM
rajji,Talking about poisoning, here is the man who died from poison. His Natal Chart: (Neptune is almost in his 8th house). Here is the link about his death: http://www.prose-n-poetry.com/display_work/10583/ - I have read the book about him, his life and his death: from American journalist, who was his good friend for 20 years. There was also very good explanation in Medical Astrology Forum, how it looks like: death from poison. About Progressions: I am trying to study my Progressions. I only know that something (important) happens, when the planet changes the sign. B. ------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 27, 2011 12:53 PM
rajji,About Lotto: somebody looks Transits, somebody Progressions, somebody can see in Solar Return, when the money will come. For Solar Return is difficult, because in that time you can be in some other part of the World and not there, where you are at the moment. I am bad teacher: I can only see what will happen, but not when will happen. Bobbie ------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 3625 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2011 03:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by abcd efg: We choose everything. We choose 1) our birth (where we will be born, for what reasons and which karmas we want to burn out and which environment i.e. family etc will be suitable for this purpose). 2) Our life ('cause some things in our life we choose now and some we would have chosen earlier, either in this life or previous). 3) And even death. When how etc. Which karmas cannot be cleared now are carried forward for next lives.And sorry we do not get to rest, not really. Till this balance is tallied and much later -we really rest. Physical death cannot be real rest. How I wish, we could get to rest! pheewwwwww. And when we realise that the 'good times' that we experience here are not so good after all we want to turn to our original source. Like a child who doesn't want to play with the toys anymore but wants mama dear. Then we choose again to return to our mother-GOD and rest. Hmmmmmmm........Choice! Choice! Choice! So many choices....
Don't shove your belief system down my throat. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 3625 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2011 03:47 PM
bonadea, Would you feel comfortable sharing suicide aspects in the natal from your research? I understand if you don't from what you wrote about the other msg boards, but I have seen some content from other articles, so just curious is all.IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 479 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 28, 2011 05:50 AM
quote: We choose everything. We choose 1) our birth (where we will be born, for what reasons and which karmas we want to burn out and which environment i.e. family etc will be suitable for this purpose). 2) Our life ('cause some things in our life we choose now and some we would have chosen earlier, either in this life or previous). 3) And even death. When how etc. Which karmas cannot be cleared now are carried forward for next lives.And sorry we do not get to rest, not really. Till this balance is tallied and much later -we really rest. Physical death cannot be real rest. etc.
When I got cerviX cancer and became a bit too rebellious/emotional according my spiritual friends/group, they felt the need to remember me; - YOU create your own REALITY!!!! - YOU CHOOSE to be in these circumstances!!!! - YOU are NOT a VICTIM!!!!! (multiple exclamation marks were literally part of it) Emotions were NOT allowed because I had chosen to have c. cancer myself. Happily enough I'm cured from them and these inhuman thoughts. IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 28, 2011 06:18 AM
Lonake,It is very difficult, to write about suicide in the Forum, where are other members they don't like this theme. First, I will post two Natal Charts, from famous novelist, who committed suicide, 2008 and my female friend. She is alive. They are Astro Twins. His Natal Chart: http://tinypic.com/r/2a9p83o/7 Her Natal Chart: http://tinypic.com/r/122iwqu/7 B.
------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 28, 2011 06:38 AM
About suicide: It should be looked 8th, 1st and aspects between rulers of both houses. Second: if the ruler of ASC is in 8th in hard aspects, there is danger of committing suicide. Third: rulers of the Sun and ASC in hard aspect can also be sign that person one day will commit suicide (case of Vincent van Gogh). Ruler of 8th in the 1st is also dangerous. As I didn't see my friend, I call other friend there to tell me, what is doing this woman. I don’t ask, if she is alive, but ask in the common about many people there (I have left that place). In the two Charts is difference: Ruler of his ASC is Neptune in 8th in hard aspects with planets in 12th. Ruler of her ASC, Uranus in 7th: she is very busy with many men in her life. Even if the ruler of her 8th, Venus is in the 1st, I don't think she is going to kill herself. Here is also Jupiter in her 1st to protect her. I have seen cases, where the ruler of 8th is in hard aspects with the ruler of 12th or planets in 12th, but there is no explanation in the books about this case. Bobbie p.s. Ruler of my ASC is Venus in 8th: I took once too many pills but was found. My Venus has no hard aspects and is also ruler of my 8th.
------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 28, 2011 06:55 AM
Deleted post: sent twice!B. IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 803 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 28, 2011 06:56 AM
Hi rajji,About your question how to play Lotto: you must buy a ticket, write certain numbers and wait until numbers will be chosen. The best time to do that is from July until September 2011, when Jupiter is in Taurus, having good aspects with your Mercury in Virgo (2nd) and Jupiter in Caprictorn (5th). Good luck, Bobbie ------------------ A friend is someone who knows all about you and and still likes you. Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 189 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 28, 2011 08:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Pluto Squared Lalalinda is one of THE most beloved people on here. There is NO other person on here but YOU who has a problem with her. That should say something about YOUR ego. I challenge any other person on LL to say they don't respect Lalalinda. I challenge ANY other person on here to say Lalalinda has a big ego. That points to you needing to look at why YOU are the only one who has a problem with her.
Guys, I dont have a stake here, but even if i dislike the way PS has reacted to LL, I can see that LL started accusing him/her of skippingn ethics in his/her studies, which from reading the thread, i could not see how PS was being unethical. She/he (sorry, dont know the gender of PS)was making a point that from my view was valid (not that I would go predicting death cause i have no clue about it) and not that I do not think that it could be a fullfilling prophesy, but her/his point was sound to me and not less ehtical that anything i have heard here. IP: Logged |