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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,if you care to answer that, that would be interesting.
I am just throwing out MY experiences for purpose of trying to understand this aspect.
It does not MEAN it held true for you

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posted March 30, 2011 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, okay. I read the chart under the impression this was a relationship and that was his correct birth time - so otherwise the house system gets messed up and what not. But you still have those pivotal things conjunct with one another.

He's a Virgo sun with an Aquarius moon. I'm a Virgo ascendant with an Aquarius moon. I will say this for him - I have been in love once, and it was very easy to express my emotions and be loyal to this person. When you love someone - you love them. Plain and simple. Even if your feelings are shaky, that loyalty is still there. However, I have certainly LIKED people, and after we've "crossed that line", if I feel like they felt something more towards me then what I felt, yeah. I cut those ties. Because I don't want to enter something false and one sided - which is the honor of both Virgo and the Aquarius moon kicking in. So take that how you will.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, from my experience with Chiron with ANOTHER person who ran away from me,lol, it may be subconscious.
This person just ran away,too,when we had gotten very,very close.
I made a mistake,again, apologized,profusely but the person never came back.
It was not romantic,just friends but we got super,super close.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, just thinking out loud.
With Chiron,you get SUPER,SUPER close.
Sometimes,it is too much for one person.
I ,still,have a very close Chiron friend and she and I get closer and closer

I think a Chiron aspect takes TWO people who can delve in to very deep and murky parts of themselves and still see each other the next day lol
It takes a great deal of honesty and ego strength,too.
So, when I SEE a Chiron relationship ,now, I walk carefully,but I ,also, think it can be very,very special,too.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After you say your last words about Chiron,Friend, we will go on to moon oppose moon which I have with another friend

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Venus Pisces
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posted March 30, 2011 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Ah, okay. I read the chart under the impression this was a relationship and that was his correct birth time - so otherwise the house system gets messed up and what not. But you still have those pivotal things conjunct with one another.

He's a Virgo sun with an Aquarius moon. I'm a Virgo ascendant with an Aquarius moon. I will say this for him - I have been in love once, and it was very easy to express my emotions and be loyal to this person. When you love someone - you love them. Plain and simple. Even if your feelings are shaky, that loyalty is still there. However, I have certainly LIKED people, and after we've "crossed that line", if I feel like they felt something more towards me then what I felt, yeah. I cut those ties. Because I don't want to enter something false and one sided - which is the honor of both Virgo and the Aquarius moon kicking in. So take that how you will.


I hear ya! Thanks! It just a hard to pill to swallow because I want closure or a new beginning. It hard for me to let go of this because I was told by a psychic that he was the one. just give him time. he has to work out some personal stuff. My Venus Pisces has me living in a fantasy world. *sigh*

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posted March 30, 2011 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
After you say your last words about Chiron,Friend, we will go on to moon oppose moon which I have with another friend


thanks so much! Chiron this is an apect that I'm not familiar with and have never looked at. I'm gonna do more reading up on Chiron.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Moon oppose Moon.
I,myself ,could not deal with this aspect ,in a relationship.
I have no oppositions in my chart and this aspect hurts me in a close relationship.
I HAVE it with my BFF BUT I know he does not "get" me.
He does not understand my heart/moon.
When I cry,he cares but he cannot feel me from a vantage point that he understands why I cry and how it feels ,to me.

To put it simply,moon oppose moon is a sense that your hearts do not understand each other ,well.
Did you feel this?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 30, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK Moon oppose Moon.
I,myself ,could not deal with this aspect ,in a relationship.
I have no oppositions in my chart and this aspect hurts me in a close relationship.
I HAVE it with my BFF BUT I know he does not "get" me.
He does not understand my heart/moon.
When I cry,he cares but he cannot feel me from a vantage point that he understands why I cry and how it feels ,to me.

To put it simply,moon oppose moon is a sense that your hearts do not understand each other ,well.
Did you feel this?

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I feel this! I mean he ran away and when I reached out he ignored me. If you knew my heart he would know this would hurt my heart. sigh

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok,Lets give you a break and do a GOOD aspect lol

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posted March 30, 2011 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok,Lets give you a break and do a GOOD aspect lol


thanks! I been told before tho that moon opposing moon could be good in a relationship. I dunno...

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My computer was over heating.Had to shut it off for a bit.
May need to again lol

OK---for me,*I* have no oppositions in my chart so if something opposes or squares my Sun or moon,it is awful for me and a deal breaker in romance.
That may just be me.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I can tell you are down cuz you really care about him.
I have been there lol.
Lets do some good aspects

His Mars conjuncts your Pluto. His Venus conjuncts your Jupiter.
His Pluto conjuncts your Saturn.


The first one---his Mars conjuncts your Pluto,*I* do not see as bad.
I see it as sexy.
I could be wrong cuz I am not as good as many ,here.
I think when you get Mars and Pluto ,together, you get intensity and passion.
What do other people think?

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posted March 30, 2011 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True, as Vertiver said, YOU are the Pluto and usually the Pluto is the more dominant one.
I suppose ,he could have felt like YOU were too strong for him.
Were YOU the dominant personality in the relationship?
Some men want/need this.
I am thinking that this aspect made YOU the more dominant one.
Did YOU feel that?

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posted March 30, 2011 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A quick look at the pSynastry tells of a Venus-Mars Liaison.

I see a pVenus/pMars opposition in 2003 when you first met, in applying aspect. In 2006 the aspect was still applying. However, in April of 2010, your pVenus (27 Ari) had passed his nMars @ 25 Libra. The momentum which had been building since the beginning, though passed its tipping point sometime in 07/08, found release in 2010.

Outside of this the matchup is a tense one. Moom opposed moon, Sun opposed Venus in the natal charts as well as an applying aspect.

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posted March 30, 2011 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Nine
I thought Sun opppose Venus was an easy aspect?
Am I wrong?
Could you explain this aspect ,please.I have it as a DW in synastry lol

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posted March 30, 2011 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok I can tell you are down cuz you really care about him.
I have been there lol.
Lets do some good aspects

His Mars conjuncts your Pluto. His Venus conjuncts your Jupiter.
His Pluto conjuncts your Saturn.


The first one---his Mars conjuncts your Pluto,*I* do not see as bad.
I see it as sexy.
I could be wrong cuz I am not as good as many ,here.
I think when you get Mars and Pluto ,together, you get intensity and passion.
What do other people think?


Thanks for all of you thoughts!

Yes it was very intense! It was as if he knew how to just touch me. One time when we were cuddling it was like electricity was shooting thru my body. I wonder is he felt the same! He was one of the most intense connections I've ever known.

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posted March 30, 2011 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
True, as Vertiver said, YOU are the Pluto and usually the Pluto is the more dominant one.
I suppose ,he could have felt like YOU were too strong for him.
Were YOU the dominant personality in the relationship?
Some men want/need this.
I am thinking that this aspect made YOU the more dominant one.
Did YOU feel that?


Looking back he started off as dominant, pursuing me but I guess now it was more of a sport for him. Then when I started to like him and was told by a psychic that he was the one. I took off with it. I may be a little more mature than him as well. I dunno. sigh

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posted March 30, 2011 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
True, as Vertiver said, YOU are the Pluto and usually the Pluto is the more dominant one.
I suppose ,he could have felt like YOU were too strong for him.
Were YOU the dominant personality in the relationship?
Some men want/need this.
I am thinking that this aspect made YOU the more dominant one.
Did YOU feel that?


Looking back he started off as dominant, pursuing me but I guess now it was more of a sport for him. Then when I started to like him and was told by a psychic that he was the one. I took off with it. I may be a little more mature than him as well. I dunno. sigh

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posted March 30, 2011 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
A quick look at the pSynastry tells of a Venus-Mars Liaison.

I see a pVenus/pMars opposition in 2003 when you first met, in applying aspect. In 2006 the aspect was still applying. However, in April of 2010, your pVenus (27 Ari) had passed his nMars @ 25 Libra. The momentum which had been building since the beginning, though passed its tipping point sometime in 07/08, found release in 2010.

Outside of this the matchup is a tense one. Moom opposed moon, Sun opposed Venus in the natal charts as well as an applying aspect.

???


Thanks for the insight!

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posted March 30, 2011 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venus Pisces:
Thanks for all of you thoughts!

Yes it was very intense! It was as if he knew how to just touch me. One time when we were cuddling it was like electricity was shooting thru my body. I wonder is he felt the same! He was one of the most intense connections I've ever known.


Yes,I can imagine it being like this with Pluto conjunct Mars.
I am sorry you are yearning for him.I get that.
I understand that pain.
I am so sorry

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posted March 30, 2011 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes,I can imagine it being like this with Pluto conjunct Mars.
I am sorry you are yearning for him.I get that.
I understand that pain.
I am so sorry


I just gotta to get over it!
I don't know how!
It's funny one time after a party I had at my house he was the last to leave. He tried to make a move. this was before I like him. I told him let's not cross that line. Then A year and half later we did. I wish I never did. I feel so stupid. this dude was an ******* . why me??? sigh

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posted March 30, 2011 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to bed but can you write about all the events,if you feel you want to
How did it turn bad after you had sex?
If you could write about everything,maybe we could see what happened as we do the aspects.
I really get how you feel about him

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posted March 31, 2011 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I think a Chiron aspect takes TWO people who can delve in to very deep and murky parts of themselves and still see each other the next day lol
It takes a great deal of honesty and ego strength,too.
So, when I SEE a Chiron relationship ,now, I walk carefully,but I ,also, think it can be very,very special,too.

It also depends on how emotional mature the two people are.

I'm starting to realize that synastry is useless without first determining whether the two people share the same amount of maturity. And chiron like all other planets depend on how attuned you are to this centaur. I don't want to sound like a misanthrope but I'm just appalled at how shallow most people are, creating perpetual immaturity...

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