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Venus Pisces
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posted March 30, 2011 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you take a lok at our synastry. Will he come back? What else do you see?

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posted March 30, 2011 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Aspect/Challenging Aspects

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will make a deal with you.
If I go over the aspects -one by one--will you tell me how they FEEL?
I am trying to learn and I can help you answer your question in the process

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posted March 30, 2011 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe his Mars on your Pluto made him feel stifled?

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posted March 30, 2011 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ami Anne I will most definitely tell you how I FEEL.
@ vertiver I'm a Libra Mars and his Pluto is Leo. How does that play out? How does that make him feel stifled?

Thanks so much guys!!

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This looks like a totally amazing synastry to me, Venus Pisces.

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posted March 30, 2011 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant his Mars conjunct your Pluto. Pluto can have a very subversive effect. I don't see any planets conjunct any angles, that usually signifies the most significance.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first one that strikes me his his chiron conjuncts your Sun.
This is a POWERFUL aspect. One thing that is interesting in my life is that I have lost most people who had a strong Chiron connection with me.
I have one left.Hi Nicki

To get to your chart,lol
His Chiron is HIS woundedness that never heals.
We all have a Chiron ,of course.
He could heal YOU from his own pain but HE can never heal his own Chiron wounds.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To make it more practical, his deepest pain he brings to YOU.
You and he share this aspect of him.

How does this feel?

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JohnFKennedy
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posted March 30, 2011 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is such interesting synastry. It's the perfect mix of excellent and REALLY bad elements like that.

For example, both of your IC rulers fall into each others 4th house, which is lovely. His Venus is conjunct your Jupiter, which would feel great and homely for you as it's in your 4th, but very interestingly for him as it's in his 12th. Then you have his Chiron conjunct your Sun, which would attest to the title of your post - you mother him, you adore his wounds and want to help heal him, you love him unconditionally. Your Chiron is loosely conjuncting his DC, which shows that the feeling is probably mutual on his part.

Then you got some pretty.. bad aspects, for lack of better term. Namely, your moons are in opposition. Which can be a good thing, but honestly? When it's bad, it's probably really bad, I can imagine. Also, his Mars conjunct your Pluto is probably really volatile, which is emphasized in the fact it's in his 12th house. Then you got his Pluto conjunct your Saturn, which is also explosive and extremely stifling - but certainly would inspire "glue"-like feelings in you about this guy. His moon falls into your 7th, which is pretty nice, to contrast all the negative things I've seen. Your suns trine, as well as your ascendants.

The guy needs his independence, big time. He's someone that likes things on his own terms, and probably hates clingy relationships, although I definitely am not under the impression this was a one sided relationship on your part - it was mutually intense, definitely. But I don't know if he's able to handle it with his Aquarius moon, as well as his Scorpionic Mars/Venus in the 12th, and Uranus conjunct his Ascendant. Those are INTENSE positions, and shows a very freedom orientated person. Truthfully, it's the Chiron and Venus aspects that makes me think that this isn't over. What exactly happened?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna discuss moon oppose moon,next.
Great info JFK

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna discuss moon oppose moon,next.
Great info JFK

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posted March 30, 2011 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The first one that strikes me his his chiron conjuncts your Sun.
This is a POWERFUL aspect. One thing that is interesting in my life is that I have lost most people who had a strong Chiron connection with me.
I have one left.Hi Nicki

To get to your chart,lol
His Chiron is HIS woundedness that never heals.
We all have a Chiron ,of course.
He could heal YOU from his own pain but HE can never heal his own Chiron wounds.



This feels right! We were just friends but we shared some of our past. It's like we just knew each other with out words. I started to fall in love with him.

you said he can never heal his wounds but i can heal from his wounds... what do you mean. it's funny that you said that too. I have a poem that I wrote about him and healing. just being friends with him I've learned so much about myself and blossomed. Now he is gone and can't see me blooming hehe! Oh yea we were just friends but we were intimate last April it was amazing!! i'm sure you see that somewhere in our charts haha! Thanks!

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, YOU healed from him but he remained unhealed, to put it simplistically?

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Venus Pisces
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posted March 30, 2011 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
This is such interesting synastry. It's the perfect mix of excellent and REALLY bad elements like that.

For example, both of your IC rulers fall into each others 4th house, which is lovely. His Venus is conjunct your Jupiter, which would feel great and homely for you as it's in your 4th, but very interestingly for him as it's in his 12th. Then you have his Chiron conjunct your Sun, which would attest to the title of your post - you mother him, you adore his wounds and want to help heal him, you love him unconditionally. Your Chiron is loosely conjuncting his DC, which shows that the feeling is probably mutual on his part.

Then you got some pretty.. bad aspects, for lack of better term. Namely, your moons are in opposition. Which can be a good thing, but honestly? When it's bad, it's probably really bad, I can imagine. Also, his Mars conjunct your Pluto is probably really volatile, which is emphasized in the fact it's in his 12th house. Then you got his Pluto conjunct your Saturn, which is also explosive and extremely stifling - but certainly would inspire "glue"-like feelings in you about this guy. His moon falls into your 7th, which is pretty nice, to contrast all the negative things I've seen. Your suns trine, as well as your ascendants.

The guy needs his independence, big time. He's someone that likes things on his own terms, and probably hates clingy relationships, although I definitely am not under the impression this was a one sided relationship on your part - it was mutually intense, definitely. But I don't know if he's able to handle it with his Aquarius moon, as well as his Scorpionic Mars/Venus in the 12th, and Uranus conjunct his Ascendant. Those are INTENSE positions, and shows a very freedom orientated person. Truthfully, it's the Chiron and Venus aspects that makes me think that this isn't over. What exactly happened?


Well what happened... I'll take you all the way back. I meet him back in 2003 when I was in college. him and his fraternity brothers were visiting the fraternity at my school. the frat brother brought them over to me and my roommates house to party. I remember when I met him our eyes locked and and I thought to myself is this my husband. We party all night then that was it. Then in 2006 we met again in my hometown his college town. We reintroduce ourselves and ran into each other often, hung in the same circles. Then in 2009 we started hang out alot more with mutual friends, I like one of his friends. he new that but he was always flirting and trying to get my attention on him but I would ignore him because he was a big flirt. then one day it clicked... our connection was magical. we would hang out from time to time alone nothing would happen but he would open up and tell me things like he hasn't had this much fun in along time, he need my kind of energy in his life, he like my confidence etc. so I thought we were falling in love. ha! Anyway last april we hada a KRAZY night and we were intimate amazing and since then he has been distant. I ran into him last fall thru mutual friends. he was weird acting as well as acting like an ass whole. But I could tell he was nervous. I called him out the blue beginning of feb and no return call. I feel like we have unfinished business. We never got to communicate our feelings. I feel like I played my cards wrong! I miss him...

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posted March 30, 2011 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
So, YOU healed from him but he remained unhealed, to put it simplistically?


I guess that is what happened! but me being the nurturing soul I am I wanted to help heal him. I feel like he has some deep wounds. will he ever heal? I thought we were healing each other.

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posted March 30, 2011 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO SAD

After you answer my Chiron question,I would like to discuss Chiron a little more and then we can go on to moon oppose moon,if that is OK.

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posted March 30, 2011 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
SO SAD

After you answer my Chiron question,I would like to discuss Chiron a little more and then we can go on to moon oppose moon,if that is OK.




I totally feel like the Chiron aspect his there! I just hope he heals. He is such a beautiful man. What more would you like to know about the chiron aspect?

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posted March 30, 2011 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*I* was the Chiron ,there.SHE ran away.
So, I was your guy and she was you lol

My Mother's Sun conjuncts My Chiron.
She, the SUN, wanted me, the Chiron ,to heal her.
So, I was your guy,here,and my Mother was you,if you follow

*I* felt as if my mother wanted ME to heal her.
Did YOUR guy feel that about you,at all,do you think?

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posted March 30, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok
I am gonna talk--free flow--and see what you think.
I had one female friend, My Chiron conjunct HER Venus.
She ran away,unexpectantly.
We got really close and then had one fight and she was gone.
I tried,over and over to make it right but she seemed to see me in a maleficent light.



Yea that could be it! I hope he doesn't see me in a malefiecient light.I just can't understand why he is so stubborn. I keep staying to myself but we were friends. but we crossed that line...

do you think you and you friend will be friends again? how long ago was that?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 30, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 30, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
*I* was the Chiron ,there.SHE ran away.
So, I was your guy and she was you lol

My Mother's Sun conjuncts My Chiron.
She, the SUN, wanted me, the Chiron ,to heal her.
So, I was your guy,here,and my Mother was you,if you follow

*I* felt as if my mother wanted ME to heal her.
Did YOUR guy feel that about you,at all,do you think?


It's hard for me to say. We were friends with this unspoke connection! If he wanted me to heal him why would did he run away? I guess that's the freedom loving aquarius moon. Hmmm...

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posted March 30, 2011 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did HE ever express that HE felt used by you?

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posted March 30, 2011 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Did HE ever express that HE felt used by you?


no he never did, it wild because I wanted to heal him, take away his pain. But he could possible feel used because I healed through him. This must all be on a subconscious level for him

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