posted April 10, 2011 01:16 PM            

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That does make sense, I feel like I suddenly
on trial or on the spot and it just ruins everything! Now if I show them I don't feel that way, which I hate having to do that awkward confrontation, and I don't want to hurt anyone and then I think did I lead them on? Then its like well there goes our relationship now this person thinks I'm a ***** , so I feel stressed.

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Yeah... That's usually the way I feel about it. I sometimes think that my Scorpio rising really really doesn't help in this area, since I think sometimes I come across as more sexual than I am.

Plus, I also don't like being put on the spot, and usually I am! For some reason, the people I DON'T have an interest in seem to like to declare their love for me in dramatic, public ways.

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But it feels like there is something else underneath it all that I don't know..... feels like I push people away. But there is a difference between pushing people away and beginning to hate them.

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posted April 10, 2011 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
crazyaqua - I just realised you are definitely reacting to these people emotionally....a scorp moon in pluto WOULD hate someone rather than just pull away, we are who we are...if your emotional response to a situation is to hate with a passion then it's what you'll do.

I can understand that these situations upset you....but I think what you're describing about yourself is "normal" for you xxxx

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Brilliant answer.Our chart is our destiny to some degree.
It is our basic building blocks,right?
This helps one to accept oneself,I think.

posted April 10, 2011 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I didn't mean the nep in 1st no, i was referring to the moon/pluto giving out vibes without the rest of your chart knowing.

the venus and mars are both con sat...and saturn likes to have boundaries, people could be crossing your boundaries...and you then react by pulling away?

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Oh me and my boundaries haha I have huge boundary issues yes.

Well here is a short story, which is why I feel screwed up haha
There was this guy that I was very interested in. Then he began to show me that he was too in a forward, but friendly manner since we were pretty much friends. But once he did that BAM! I thought I was going to stab him in the face! Annoyed the hell out of me! After pushing him away he eventually stopped even though he still wanted me I could tell. But it was then that the anger went away and I began to feel my feelings for him again. O_o

posted April 10, 2011 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
Do you think perhaps there is a revulsion for the REASON that they are interested in you? (As an example): Like if you're super gorgeous, do you think that they like you only for your looks and nothing else? Or perhaps you think that they only want you for sex? (Or even love for that matter...)

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posted April 10, 2011 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
crazyaqua - I just realised you are definitely reacting to these people emotionally....a scorp moon in pluto WOULD hate someone rather than just pull away, we are who we are...if your emotional response to a situation is to hate with a passion then it's what you'll do.

I can understand that these situations upset you....but I think what you're describing about yourself is "normal" for you xxxx

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posted April 10, 2011 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by CrazyAquarian:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by enchantress299:
[b] Do you think perhaps there is a revulsion for the REASON that they are interested in you? (As an example): Like if you're super gorgeous, do you think that they like you only for your looks and nothing else? Or perhaps you think that they only want you for sex? (Or even love for that matter...)

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I feel like a huge contradiction [/B][/QUOTE]

A strong Scorpio person is doing this to me
lol
This person cannot seem to SEE that I like him for HIM--pure and simple,nothing more or less Grrrrrrr

posted April 10, 2011 01:37 PM            

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I feel like a huge contradiction

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It's ok... I usually feel that way too. It's probably because you have an air sun/water moon. I have an earth sun/fire moon so it's kind of the same effect.

BUT, I will add to what everyone else has said... Upon looking at your chart, there definitely might be a connection to your Neptune, as Neptune blurs the lines of boundaries. Your Neptune exactly conjuncts your Mars, which has to do with sexuality, AND your Neptune is ruled by Saturn which is conjuncting your Venus.

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Or maybe that they don't actually want me for me but for who they think I am?

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posted April 10, 2011 01:47 PM            

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A strong Scorpio person is doing this to me
lol
This person cannot seem to SEE that I like him for HIM--pure and simple,nothing more or less Grrrrrrr

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I could see where that would be frustrating Ami. Unfortunately, I think I do that very thing A LOT.

People with Pluto and other outer planet contacts to their inner planets (I've got Pluto, Saturn, AND Uranus all aspecting my Sun and Venus) tend to want depth and they often fear a shallow relationship based only on shallow principles. Me personally, I know I will get bored with someone if I don't have a certain level of depth and challenge to the relationship. If I don't bond with them on a certain level I'll just never stay in it. Money, sex, and love of beauty (hell, sometimes even just LOVE) just can't hold a relationship together in the long run.

posted April 10, 2011 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
It's ok... I usually feel that way too. It's probably because you have an air sun/water moon. I have an earth sun/fire moon so it's kind of the same effect.

BUT, I will add to what everyone else has said... Upon looking at your chart, there definitely might be a connection to your Neptune, as Neptune blurs the lines of boundaries. Your Neptune exactly conjuncts your Mars, which has to do with sexuality, AND your Neptune is ruled by Saturn which is conjuncting your Venus.

That has a lot to do with Neptune right there, I think. Neptune is about illusion, and Saturn wants something substantial, so it's going to ground your Neptune a bit and cause you to desire reality over illusion. Sometimes it seems that when people fall in love, it is over the illusion of who we are instead of the reality.

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posted April 10, 2011 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
I could see where that would be frustrating Ami. Unfortunately, I think I do that very thing A LOT.

People with Pluto and other outer planet contacts to their inner planets (I've got Pluto, Saturn, AND Uranus all aspecting my Sun and Venus) tend to want depth and they often fear a shallow relationship based only on shallow principles. Me personally, I know I will get bored with someone if I don't have a certain level of depth and challenge to the relationship. If I don't bond with them on a certain level I'll just never stay in it. Money, sex, and love of beauty (hell, sometimes even just LOVE) just can't hold a relationship together in the long run.

Unfortunately, the downfall of this is that outer planet people will need A LOT of evidence and encouragement that this is the relationship that they really really want. The one good thing is that once the decision is made,you know it's genuine and you'll get the best of that person...

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That helps a LOT,Enchantress
Thank you

posted April 10, 2011 05:11 PM            

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There was this guy that I was very interested in. Then he began to show me that he was too in a forward, but friendly manner since we were pretty much friends. But once he did that BAM! I thought I was going to stab him in the face! Annoyed the hell out of me! After pushing him away he eventually stopped even though he still wanted me I could tell. But it was then that the anger went away and I began to feel my feelings for him again. O_o

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Lol that's how finally two of my most important *relationships* began.
Well yes, ofcourse they had a hold on me otherwise it won't work I guess (both VERY fixed! - like myself).

So yes, a very recognizable problem Crazyaqua.

posted April 10, 2011 05:29 PM            

Something I found online:

Jupiter opposition Uranus
Most of the challenges that are likely to face the individual with this aspect will be centred on personal beliefs and expression, and relationships with others.

You are likely to have a bright, alert, intellectual mind, anda sense of self-assurance which can be expressed with enthusiasm and dynamic energy. Over time you will amass a large storehouse of knowledge, which you can use in your efforts to become successful and creative. What is likely to disrupt the results of such natural assets is the influence of the Uranian opposition, which essentially distorts the outer expression.

You may need to be wary of an urge to convert others to your beliefs which, whilst genuinely held, may not be suitable for everyone. If others oppose you, this serves to reinforce your support of your beliefs against any odds; you can feel that this often validates them. There can be a tendency to be too domineering in expression, founded on that strong self-assurance; and in relating there is often a lack of tact and sensitivity to the feelings and abilities of others. Not everyone has your ability to be so focused on achieving important objectives; many vacillate, or sit on the fence, instead of choosing to be on one side or the other. Also, others have different requirements for life experience from yours, different challenges; and they may be following their path as much as you are following yours.

Eventually, you may find that the Uranus action causes you to revolt against any belief structures to which you have bound yourself. At least for a period, you may have to stand alone and adrift from security in beliefs; this can occur as a result of disillusionment and a collapse in your faith in a specific belief. Yet this can be liberating, since in the experience of such a phase of inner darkness, your own light may be perceived and contacted, enabling you to live more freely and attuned to your own life pattern through later life. Identification with outer belief structures can be personally inimical and restrictive.

On top of that aspect, you have the same negatively aspected planet conjunct Mars:

Uranus conjunct Mars
This will give you a dynamic, powerful energy that you attempt to direct in pursuit of your ambitions. One difficulty can be in the often erratic flow of this volatile energy, which creates problems in consistent application. It will be seen as though an on-off switch is being internally activated by an unknown hand. This is the unpredictable instability of the Uranian vibration, which is interfering with the drive of Mars.

Even so, the power that you release is quite considerable; but you may have to learn how to apply it in ways that create the maximum benefit for yourself, perhaps through taking into account this irregular flow pattern, and organising yourself accordingly. When this energy is freely flowing, you will feel highly chartged, and under the influence (or 'inebriation') of this energy you are liable to be quite impulsive. Actions can be taken without due thought or consideration, and this can create future difficulties, through following unwise choices. A lack of sensitivity to others, and a diminution of common sense, can occur; and you may look for ways to release the sudden pressure that can rapidly build up inside you. In extreme cases, this can be expressed through explosions of temper and anger at any provocation, even to the point of physical violence; certainly attempts to release the energy through verbal and emotionally directed violence towards a partner are common.

You prefer to retain as much independence as possible; and you are not one to bow to any authority. Basically, you are anti-establishment, a natural rebel, an anarchist. You see your own will and desires as paramount, following a purely personal code of beahiour which is determined by a self-centred perspective on life. You tend to insist on your right to be free to follow your own path and ambitions, and can experience relationship problems through this attitude, and may need to learn teh values of co-operation to modify this tendency.

Your search for excitement is mainly in terms of physically based action, which can be through competitive sports, or in sexual conquests. You feel a strong need to 'feed' this urge for physical / material level action, and it is tied in with a need to prove yourself in relation to others, to prove that you are better than them in some chosen way.

In some ways, the rebellious spirit can find suitable channels through becoming an opponent of the Establishment, but one who is working from within a socially accepted framework, attempting to change society from within. It may be argued that this is the most effective way, to initiate constructive change through speaking out on behalf of a minority or disadvantaged social group. Irrespective of how you may express this tendency, you will tend to look for results to occur in the physical world as a reflection of your impact. You can have little patience for social rules, preferring to disregard them; but apart from you being penalised if you contravene them, you may have to learn the art of apparent conformity in order to create a foundation that you can work from in your own inimitable, subversive way.

Probably you will find that you become more effective if you can control the inner energy, so that you are able to direct it into predetermined channels of creative expression. The act of clarifying your aims, personal and social, will help this process. Careful consideration of your options and goals will lead to wiser choices at the times of activity, and a gradual transformation from self-preoccupation to becoming more aware of the rights and feelings of others will be a great step for you to make. Learning to share and work with others in co-operation will offer scope for the fullest use of your talents and forceful energy, and will re-integrate you back into society as a positive revolutionary rather than just a negative reactionary.

Uranus conjunct Mars
The conjunction of Mars and Uranus produces an unrestricted, forceful, and energetic nature. You play by your own rules and resist compliance to any controls of society. Your impulsiveness can present any number of problems, but you continue to insist on complete freedom of action. You insist on having your way. You have a strong inclination to experiment and test your theories as you go along. A reasonable degree of prudence is often lacking in your actions. You are likely to face roadblocks unless you can attain some position in which you are completely in charge

posted April 10, 2011 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Oh dude, I'm totally like that and I'm an Aquarius moon with some significant Uranus aspects. I don't know what it is, either. I mean, this doesn't ALWAYS happen, but if anything I just feel bad for them? Clearly they wouldn't like me if they REALLY knew my personality, and I know they're just projecting ideals onto me that don't exist, and there's pity on my part for that. Then I just make it a point to avoid them.

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posted April 10, 2011 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by blugrey:
It could be your Jupiter which expands in the 8th house which deals with the subconscious and control and rebirth vs. opposition Uranus which is in your 1st house of your self and ego: Since you have a negatively affected Uranus in the first house, those will be more apparent.

Something I found online:

Jupiter opposition Uranus
Most of the challenges that are likely to face the individual with this aspect will be centred on personal beliefs and expression, and relationships with others.

You are likely to have a bright, alert, intellectual mind, anda sense of self-assurance which can be expressed with enthusiasm and dynamic energy. Over time you will amass a large storehouse of knowledge, which you can use in your efforts to become successful and creative. What is likely to disrupt the results of such natural assets is the influence of the Uranian opposition, which essentially distorts the outer expression.

You may need to be wary of an urge to convert others to your beliefs which, whilst genuinely held, may not be suitable for everyone. If others oppose you, this serves to reinforce your support of your beliefs against any odds; you can feel that this often validates them. There can be a tendency to be too domineering in expression, founded on that strong self-assurance; and in relating there is often a lack of tact and sensitivity to the feelings and abilities of others. Not everyone has your ability to be so focused on achieving important objectives; many vacillate, or sit on the fence, instead of choosing to be on one side or the other. Also, others have different requirements for life experience from yours, different challenges; and they may be following their path as much as you are following yours.

Eventually, you may find that the Uranus action causes you to revolt against any belief structures to which you have bound yourself. At least for a period, you may have to stand alone and adrift from security in beliefs; this can occur as a result of disillusionment and a collapse in your faith in a specific belief. Yet this can be liberating, since in the experience of such a phase of inner darkness, your own light may be perceived and contacted, enabling you to live more freely and attuned to your own life pattern through later life. Identification with outer belief structures can be personally inimical and restrictive.

On top of that aspect, you have the same negatively aspected planet conjunct Mars:

Uranus conjunct Mars
This will give you a dynamic, powerful energy that you attempt to direct in pursuit of your ambitions. One difficulty can be in the often erratic flow of this volatile energy, which creates problems in consistent application. It will be seen as though an on-off switch is being internally activated by an unknown hand. This is the unpredictable instability of the Uranian vibration, which is interfering with the drive of Mars.

Even so, the power that you release is quite considerable; but you may have to learn how to apply it in ways that create the maximum benefit for yourself, perhaps through taking into account this irregular flow pattern, and organising yourself accordingly. When this energy is freely flowing, you will feel highly chartged, and under the influence (or 'inebriation') of this energy you are liable to be quite impulsive. Actions can be taken without due thought or consideration, and this can create future difficulties, through following unwise choices. A lack of sensitivity to others, and a diminution of common sense, can occur; and you may look for ways to release the sudden pressure that can rapidly build up inside you. In extreme cases, this can be expressed through explosions of temper and anger at any provocation, even to the point of physical violence; certainly attempts to release the energy through verbal and emotionally directed violence towards a partner are common.

You prefer to retain as much independence as possible; and you are not one to bow to any authority. Basically, you are anti-establishment, a natural rebel, an anarchist. You see your own will and desires as paramount, following a purely personal code of beahiour which is determined by a self-centred perspective on life. You tend to insist on your right to be free to follow your own path and ambitions, and can experience relationship problems through this attitude, and may need to learn teh values of co-operation to modify this tendency.

Your search for excitement is mainly in terms of physically based action, which can be through competitive sports, or in sexual conquests. You feel a strong need to 'feed' this urge for physical / material level action, and it is tied in with a need to prove yourself in relation to others, to prove that you are better than them in some chosen way.

In some ways, the rebellious spirit can find suitable channels through becoming an opponent of the Establishment, but one who is working from within a socially accepted framework, attempting to change society from within. It may be argued that this is the most effective way, to initiate constructive change through speaking out on behalf of a minority or disadvantaged social group. Irrespective of how you may express this tendency, you will tend to look for results to occur in the physical world as a reflection of your impact. You can have little patience for social rules, preferring to disregard them; but apart from you being penalised if you contravene them, you may have to learn the art of apparent conformity in order to create a foundation that you can work from in your own inimitable, subversive way.

Probably you will find that you become more effective if you can control the inner energy, so that you are able to direct it into predetermined channels of creative expression. The act of clarifying your aims, personal and social, will help this process. Careful consideration of your options and goals will lead to wiser choices at the times of activity, and a gradual transformation from self-preoccupation to becoming more aware of the rights and feelings of others will be a great step for you to make. Learning to share and work with others in co-operation will offer scope for the fullest use of your talents and forceful energy, and will re-integrate you back into society as a positive revolutionary rather than just a negative reactionary.

Uranus conjunct Mars
The conjunction of Mars and Uranus produces an unrestricted, forceful, and energetic nature. You play by your own rules and resist compliance to any controls of society. Your impulsiveness can present any number of problems, but you continue to insist on complete freedom of action. You insist on having your way. You have a strong inclination to experiment and test your theories as you go along. A reasonable degree of prudence is often lacking in your actions. You are likely to face roadblocks unless you can attain some position in which you are completely in charge

Hope this helps, that's just what stood out to me. Your Pluto/Moon don't really have any major negative aspects so I don't feel like that's it. Rebellion + Anger = Uranus Mars. Jupiter also can exaggerate small things.

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posted April 10, 2011 10:13 PM            

I also wanna say that our Venuses are conj in Cap, mine is sq Saturn and yours is conj it.....Just an option on the table!

I still don't know exactly *why* I'm like this, but I'm at a point where I can admit this to myself. But at first it was weird for me to accept cos I always thought only men were like that.
Now that I accept it in my life, much of my past and current actions and feelings, etc. make sense. And where I *was* nothing made sense, I was on autopilot and felt somewhat out of control, cos my mind said I was one way, I believed that I wanted stability etc. but my actions and words said the opposite.

posted April 10, 2011 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by CrazyAquarian:

It's not so much that I think I have a bad personality, but with all the conflicts I know I can be alot to handle, you need to be thick skinned to be close to me lol And I know I don't come off as I am, since when people get closer to me I get alot of :O but usually involves laughing too, maybe thats just the Uranus lol

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posted April 10, 2011 10:19 PM            

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Originally posted by blugrey:
Oh I'm sorry.. I thought it was Jupiter in the 8th hahaha. Anyway with it in 7th that makes even more sense. That aspect would most likely take the most affect with those things the houses rule. Since the 7th rules partnerships --> it would be affected by that opposition. Also your 1st house would be as well since it's an opposition. It it makes sense? Relationship things will be expanded in your life so that you are much more concerned with it than not. Probably why you noticed this so much.

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