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Topic: Fire and Water best friends
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 04:11 AM
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Lehia2 Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 08:15 AM
I don't have any close earth sun signs friends. I've only had one in all my life and she had a heavy water/fire influence. Most of my friends are very airy or watery. I just never feel that "spark" with earth sun signs, it's like something was missing from them. They probably feel the same about me though. EDIT: BTW no Leo close friends, honestly too bossy for my taste.IP: Logged |
rigormortisgirl Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 28, 2011 09:02 AM
I have two best friends who are Leo and Aries and i'm a Virgo lol. (But I think it's because the Leo has a Virgo moon) but i'm not sure for the Aries, he just is my bestie ♥------------------ http://www.rigormotisgirl.deviantart.com Descendant- Cancer Sun-Virgo Moon-Aries Mercury-Virgo Venus-Libra Rising-Capricorn Mars-Cancer Jupiter-Scorpio Saturn-Pisces Uranus-Capricorn Neptune-Capricorn Pluto-Scorpio Lilith Taurus Grand Trine Water Houses IP: Logged |
rigormortisgirl Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted April 28, 2011 09:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lehia2: I don't have any close earth sun signs friends. I've only had one in all my life and she had a heavy water/fire influence. Most of my friends are very airy or watery. I just never feel that "spark" with earth sun signs, it's like something was missing from them. They probably feel the same about me though. EDIT: BTW no Leo close friends, honestly too bossy for my taste.
Would you still be their friend if they had a calming moon sign(Water or Earth?) IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1392 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 09:27 AM
quote: Amowls, that doesn't make any sense. Now who said air and water signs couldn't be best friends? Besides, I could also say that you're also just seeing what you want to see in thinking that my 3 leo planets are significant. If you argue synastry, than stick with that. Unless their sun makes a close aspect to one of my 3 leo planets, then your argument doesn't make sense.
Well, do they? There's a high chance that your Leo friends do aspect your Moon, Venus or Mars in some way. I don't see how this doesn't make sense to you. Your observations are surface level and lack nuances. I'm saying you may have to dig a little deeper to find out why you connect with someone. quote: I was just saying what I observed, people can draw their own conclusions. I draw my own all the time, and bc of that my opinions change all the time. Maybe you guys should try being more flexible with yours.
It's not about flexibility. You are a beginner. We've all been at your level before. We have subsequently moved on. Instead of learning from other people, however, you have clung to your simplistic ideas. quote: Maybe you all should stop being such downers too and stop saying that these people don't really care about each other, they just hugged at some red carpet event. Seriously? Wow. Lighten up!
If your examples aren't concrete, what's the point of providing examples. quote: by the way, I think it might've been just this one trine couple that I know which look miserable. Now that I think about it, I know quite a few happy trine couples. Not too many, wish I knew more.....but they seem really happy
So everyone's best friends with everyone, is what you're now saying. What's the point of this post? IP: Logged |
Lehia2 Knowflake Posts: 89 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 10:37 AM
Hmm well the only person that comes to mind with that combination (Leo/Scorpio) is an ex-friend. That might not be a good example though, Scorpio mooners tend to freak me out a bit, so it wasn't an ideal combination for me. The only other person I can think about is my boss, who is a Leo/Taurus , but she's definitely not a friend and not a good boss either. Extremely bossy, controlling, manipulative and passive-aggressive(mars in cancer) urgg I don't seem to attract many Leo suns into my life.Another person I just thought of was this guy who is a Leo/Saggy...he was a co-worker and had a great relationship. Great to work with. But I love saggies 
quote: Originally posted by rigormortisgirl: Would you still be their friend if they had a calming moon sign(Water or Earth?)
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 01:11 PM
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 01:11 PM
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amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1392 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 01:31 PM
quote: Amowls, you did ignore what I said because I said that I know cancers even with no leo or even fire in their chart with a leo best friend. Most of the cancers I know didnt have any leo (fact is, i dont remember any of them having it.) So how do you explain them since they have no "leo planets?" Also, what about the leos? They had no cancer or water placements at all. It's frustrating bc you just choose to ignore what I say.
You're not looking hard enough. They could have Leo SNs or Leo could be in their 4th house (or 7th). There are any number of reasons why people feel closer to certain signs, and most of those reasons are more compelling than "BECAUSE I HAVE A WATER SIGN I LIKE FIRE SIGNS" or whatever point you're trying to make. I've noticed a preponderance of people with Virgo placements in my own life and I have no Virgo in my chart at first glance, but then you notice my South Node and my IC/4th house are in Virgo. I've also noticed Leo Risings tend to gravitate toward me because I have an Aqua Sun and fall into their 7th house. For YOU, you feel close to Leos not because you're a Cancer (which doesn't even make any sense because semi-sextile signs don't traditionally mean sh*t) but because you have Moon, Venus and Mars spread out in Leo. You have plenty in common with Leos. I'm close to my Scorpio Best Friend because most of her planets fall into my 5th (and vice versa), her MC is almost conjunct my ASC, her NN is conjunct my Venus, my Mars conjuncts her Venus, my Moon conjuncts her Mars and her ASC is conjunct my SN. She's the only Scorpio Sun close to me. My Cap Best Friend has her Venus conjunct my Sun and Mercury and trine my Moon, and her MC is loosely conjunct my ASC. Her ASC is also conjunct my SN. It's in the synastry (sometimes composite). IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 02:09 PM
that still doesn't change the fact they were cancers and their best friend was a leo.I haven't seen the same pattern with cancer and aries or cancer and gemini, or cancer and libra. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 02:43 PM
I haven't seen any particular pattern in whom Cancerians are best friends with.Case # 1: Me-Cancer, my best friend-Sagittarius Case #2: Girl born 3 days after me-also a cancer, her best friend = Libra.
Case #3: My Dad = Cancer, his best friend = Aquarius Case #4: Cancerian classmate, her best friend = Virgo. Case #5: Famous athelete-Cancer, his closest friend = Aries. And why is there no pattern that I can see? Because Amowls' argument is very applicable.
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 03:34 PM
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Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 06:29 PM
*YOU* probably find most spark with fire men, yes. But I'm sorry, you're annoying the hell out of me when you keep saying 'Cancer women are this, and Cancer women want THAT' because you don't speak for ME. In how many ways get I can get that through to you? Seriously?? Its annoying, but the irony is that astrologically I can *see* clearly why you do it. Your planets (especially your Moon) in Leo make you OVERIDENTIFY with your Sun. In other words, you think everything you do is attributed to your Sun because of this mutual reception. Study that, and you'll get a better idea of astrology. For the record, I don't like fire-heavy men, I find them arrogant, bossy, and very egocentric in way reminiscent of a 3 year old child. Not attractive at all. I'm also water heavy with a mercurial moon and venus so intellectual and emotional spark keeps me around in the longterm over the 'firey' spark aaaanyday. The *spark* only keeps me around for about 5 minutes, and then I get bored. P.S. Most women don't like being with men they can control. IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 08:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Well, I have 3 planets in leo, but all the cancers I know have at least one leo best friend, not even joking. I know sixteen cancers and they all have a leo best friend, both guys and girls. I know I'm not crazy lol. These cancers don't have any leo in their chart also. Also, for most of them, their first boyfriend was the sign of leo. I've also attracted leos all my life, and I know plenty of leos with zero cancer, earth or water in their chart who only found best friends in the sign of cancer in the past. I mean, my experiences with this is too bewildering to ignore.My leo best friend has even been telling me since middle school (we are now almost graduating on a bachelors in college) that she thinks the sign of cancer is the one she connects the best with. She always makes cancer best friends and crushes on cancers, so it makes sense. Her boyfriend is a libra, though. She has zero earth or water in her chart.
It's great that you observe so much about your world but your examples do not make mine invalid. Fact is: you know Cancers who are best buddies with fire signs. I do not know any such cancers. EVERY single Cancer I know has great relationships with earth and other water people. So what I was wondering was if there is any difference between the charts of your cancers and my cancers that would suggest such a thing. And imho I found it. At least in your case. You having so many Leo placements will make you more leo-like and thus you'll probably be drawn to Leos. I totally agree with what the others on this thread already pointed out.
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4473 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 08:35 PM
I didnt read everyone's comments here.. I just scan through them... Im not sure what the disagreement is about? How leo/Cancer's get along?????? Or how Fire gets along better with water???? Im also a Leo Sun,Moon,Merc,Mars.. Venus in Cancer.. pisces Asc Runaround screaming I cant speak for you, I can only speak from my personal experiences. I dont personally get along with heavily fire people, If they are a mix of water and fire, then we get along great.. Me and fire people is just to much fire for us to get along... Especially with men.. I dont meet to many cancer people, when I do it takes me a VERY long time to talk to them... It took me 2 years to befriend a cancer female at work... Maybe its because my SN is in Cancer... Maybe subconsciously I dont want to... My eros and Asc is in Pisces.. I am drawn to pisces placements... Even in female friends. I just think they are adorable.. I have Uranus in H7 so I met alot of Aqua Mars (male and female) Scorpio's- I get along with but only as friends.. I only dated on Scorpio and he bored the heck out of me... Maybe because all that Scorpio squares my Leo. So prob not a good idea anyways.. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1471 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 09:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: You know Im the same.. Do you know why Pisces is a soft spot for you? Does your mars hit your neptune in any way? Would that explain it?
I dunno Lioness, I guess having Pisces Moon? But even so, my friend's Sun isn't conjunct my Moon. Maybe their Sun in my 3rd is just a good placement for friends? IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1471 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 09:01 PM
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4473 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 09:23 PM
vertiverhummm Im really curious.. Because Ive been really trying to figure it out... Care to swap birth info? Maybe we can see why in each others charts.. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4473 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 09:29 PM
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1471 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted April 28, 2011 09:43 PM
But you have Pisces ASC. right? That could be it for you. My info:7/30/1988 Salem, OR 5:05 PMIP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4473 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 28, 2011 09:52 PM
I think myabe its because of your NN... Your pulling towards your NN along with your moon.. You also have ceres in Pisces. I guess having Moon and NN in the same sign makes it easier (faster) to get there... You know I rememeber 88 what an important year for me... Wow... Looking at your chart shows me my transits for then.. No wonder.. your nn on my asc your vertex on my sn your chiron on my venus etc etc.. Plus you have Mars sq Neptune.. Isnt mars for women the type of man they like.. I also have Mars sq Neptune. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 29, 2011 01:24 AM
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 3055 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 29, 2011 01:25 AM
Well, I never said I liked heavy fire men. Just fire sun sign.Anyway these are the cancer's birthdates that i have who their best friend is a leo July 9 1989 virgo or libra moon i think and virgo ascendant June 22 1987 taurus moon sag asc June 30 1990 cancer moon i think? And aquarius asc July 6 1988 sag moon scorpio asc June 30 1989 gem moon aquarius asc July 16 1991 aqua asc The leos whose birthdates i have who have a cancer best friend and usually crush on cancers July 29 1989 gem moon and aquarius asc August 3, 1988 aries moon libra asc July 24 1985 leo asc August 16 1987 August 16 1988 There are others both leos and cancers but i dunno their birthdates.
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amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1392 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 29, 2011 10:11 AM
quote: *YOU* probably find most spark with fire men, yes. But I'm sorry, you're annoying the hell out of me when you keep saying 'Cancer women are this, and Cancer women want THAT' because you don't speak for ME. In how many ways get I can get that through to you? Seriously?? Its annoying, but the irony is that astrologically I can *see* clearly why you do it. Your planets (especially your Moon) in Leo make you OVERIDENTIFY with your Sun. In other words, you think everything you do is attributed to your Sun because of this mutual reception. Study that, and you'll get a better idea of astrology.
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amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1392 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 29, 2011 10:18 AM
quote: July 9 1989 virgo or libra moon i think and virgo ascendantJune 22 1987 taurus moon sag asc June 30 1990 cancer moon i think? And aquarius asc July 6 1988 sag moon scorpio asc June 30 1989 gem moon aquarius asc July 16 1991 aqua asc
Well, easy to see why the Aqua ascendants would have Leo best friends... IP: Logged |