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Topic: The Astrology Of Death
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Coffee
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posted May 09, 2011 06:40 PM
  
1st ruler URANUS. 12th ruler SATURN.
Transit Uranus -84 to natal Saturn.
Transit Saturn + 85 to natal Uranus.11th ruler JUPITER. 1st ruler URANUS.
Transit Uranus +65 to natal Jupiter.
Transit Jupiter -66 to natal Uranus. That is for Aquarius rising. Gemini rising, just in case it is.... 1st ruler MERCURY. 12th Ruler VENUS. Venus -90 to natal Mercury.
Mercury -90 to Natal Venus. Transit aspect between Mercury and Venus is a semi-sextile. Repeating the same natal aspect of semi-sextile. IP: Logged |
Yrone
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posted June 01, 2011 04:41 AM
Would you consider tMercury conjunct nMoon and tMoon 22° apply from an opposition to nMercury? But also at the same time we have tMercury 9° past the inconjunct with nVenus and tVenus at 7° applying for an inconj. with nMercury Both options have my arrive at the two children from H5 IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 01, 2011 09:27 AM
Can you post the chart please. It wasn't clear.Thanks. IP: Logged |
Yrone
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posted June 01, 2011 09:47 AM
Sorry but no.If it is any help, a rephrase: tMercury is separating nMoon by 2°, whilst the tMoon is 158° applying to nMercury tMercury is 141° applying to nVenus and tVenus is 143° separating from nMercury. IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 01, 2011 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Yrone:
Sorry but no.If it is any help, a rephrase: tMercury is separating nMoon by 2°, whilst the tMoon is 158° applying to nMercury tMercury is 141° applying to nVenus and tVenus is 143° separating from nMercury.
Is the person Cancer rising, and you're wanting to know if the aspects in transit would show the death of this person? If this person is Cancer rising, why have you posted the aspect of Venus to Mercury and Mercury to Venus? That's what I mean by unclear. Last of all, in transit, you look at the position of the Sun for the Moon. IP: Logged |
Yrone
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posted June 01, 2011 10:13 AM
I don't know the rising sign, it could be Gemini. And the person is dead, I don't need to "predict" anything.Nevermind, it was a stupid idea IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 01, 2011 10:21 AM
If you want to message me privately, you can do. I can also make an attempt to rectify a chart for you, in order to find the rising sign. Free of charge as normal. It's fun for me.  sunandthemoon@rocketmail.com. James IP: Logged |
Yrone
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posted June 01, 2011 01:59 PM
Thanks for the offer, I've copied your e-mail addy and I will think about it, but tbh it's too personal and I don't need a rectification.IP: Logged |
Deluded
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posted June 01, 2011 07:09 PM
Coffee
May I email you privately about a possible chart rectification?
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Coffee
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posted June 01, 2011 07:13 PM
Go ahead.IP: Logged |
Deluded
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posted June 02, 2011 05:13 PM
OkHouse Ruler 1 Uranus
House Ruler 12 Saturn Transit Uranus to Natal Saturn -83
Transit Saturn to Natal Uranus +85
Combined orb is 2 House Ruler 1 Uranus
House Ruler 11 Jupiter Transit Uranus to Natal Jupiter -66
Transit Jupiter to Natal Uranus +66
Combined orb is 0 : ) IP: Logged |
Deluded
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posted June 02, 2011 05:16 PM
Ignore last post just noticed you already did it! Good practice for me anyway... IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 09, 2011 03:01 PM
The KING is dead!
ELVIS PRESLEY  Uploaded with ImageShack.us 1st ruler JUPITER, 12th ruler PLUTO t.PLUTO +36 to n.JUPITER.
t.JUPITER +26 to n.PLUTO. Combined orb = +62 (Fame)
1st ruler JUPITER, 11th ruler VENUS. JUPITER -150 to n.VENUS
VENUS +123 to n. JUPITER Combined orb = -27 Exact quincunx from JUPITER to VENUS. This would have been a very famous event. IP: Logged |
Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 2242
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posted June 09, 2011 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Deluded:
OkHouse Ruler 1 Uranus
House Ruler 12 Saturn Transit Uranus to Natal Saturn -83
Transit Saturn to Natal Uranus +85
Combined orb is 2 House Ruler 1 Uranus
House Ruler 11 Jupiter Transit Uranus to Natal Jupiter -66
Transit Jupiter to Natal Uranus +66
Combined orb is 0 : )
Yes, it seems like that was the best option. His death was in front of an audience of millions worldwide. IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 09, 2011 03:32 PM
JAMES DEAN  Uploaded with ImageShack.us 1st ruler JUPITER, 12th ruler PLUTO t.PLUTO -46 to n.JUPITER
t.JUPITER -34 to n.PLUTO Combined orb = -80
t.PLUTO -5 degrees to t.JUPITER
n.PLUTO -7 degrees to t.JUPITER The transit aspect of Pluto to Jupiter is repeated natally. (fame) 1st ruler JUPITER, 11th ruler VENUS t.JUPITER +129 to n.VENUS
t.VENUS -93 to n.JUPITER Combined orb = +36 IP: Logged |
Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 2242
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posted June 09, 2011 03:35 PM
The evidence is quite compelling. ANYONE want to argue with the idea that the 12th house is actually DEATH?IP: Logged |
Venia
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posted June 09, 2011 03:38 PM
Coffee, I always read your posts and I personally think you are a very 'open-minded' and good astrologer. Unfortunately, my astrology 'knowledge' is at its baby steps - that's why I do not participate.Anyway... I wanted to ask a question.
I may assume it is possible to 'predict' a parent's death from the child's natal chart. Is that right?
I was wondering because my father died lately, but I have no clue about the time of his birth... IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 11, 2011 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by Venia:
Coffee, I always read your posts and I personally think you are a very 'open-minded' and good astrologer. Unfortunately, my astrology 'knowledge' is at its baby steps - that's why I do not participate.Anyway... I wanted to ask a question.
I may assume it is possible to 'predict' a parent's death from the child's natal chart. Is that right?
I was wondering because my father died lately, but I have no clue about the time of his birth...
Yes, you can predict a parents death fro your own chart. For you father, he is house 4 - not IC (Using WHOLE SIGN house system) and his death is house 3, this is because house 3 is the 12th house (death) from your father (4th) You can e-mail me at sunandthemoon@rocketmail.com if you want me to attempt to rectify his natal chart. Free of charge as always, I get plenty of learning out of it. Send as many details as possible of his life. Your birth, marriage, death, anything that you think may be useful. IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 11, 2011 12:17 AM
EDGAR CAYCE  Uploaded with ImageShack.us 1st ruler SUN, 12th ruler MOON. t.SUN +120 to n.MOON
t.MOON -104 to n.SUN Combined orb = +16 While transit SUN makes an aspect to natal MOON, the Full moon (opposite SUN) also makes an exact aspect with natal MOON.
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Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 2242
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posted June 19, 2011 11:45 AM
Bumping for the ignorant. House 12 is death.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted June 19, 2011 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
Bumping for the ignorant. House 12 is death.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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PlutoSquared
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posted June 19, 2011 01:48 PM
Coffee,Are you saying that anytime the combined orbs equal the desired amount, with consideration to an important aspect in the natal chart, that the person will die? Or, are these moments that death is more likely? IP: Logged |
Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 2242
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posted June 19, 2011 01:54 PM
That death is more likely. Take the bobsleigher. If he didn't race in that olympics, he may not have died, as he didn't put himself in for much risk.Fast forward on in his chart and you would have seen 15 or so years later, he had Uranus and Saturn conjunct in transit, in relation to his natal Uranus/Saturn conjunction. That was his next time. The more likely the combined orb is close to zero, shows that the more likely something is to happen, assuming transits also say something. So, no, it's not possible to totally predict the death of someone, but you can predict the times when you should be cautious. I'm sure there are examples where none of this fits. Take suicide, for instance. That is a self controlled way of death, therefore not as likely to show up. Or murder. Controlled by other in the way of JFK. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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posted June 19, 2011 01:59 PM
Makes sense. Thanks.IP: Logged |
abcd efg
Knowflake Posts: 1118
From: India
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 23, 2011 04:10 PM
OK. So Coffee, if you are around -Jupiter and Pluto Lords of the 1st and 12th house respectively. Natal Jup in Virgo 10 deg 30'
Transit Pluto in Sag 17 deg 25'r
Orb =97 deg 5'
Natal Pluto in Virgo 1 deg 38'
Transit Jupiter in Aries 24 deg 3'
Orb = 97 deg 35' Would this effect be correct for the possible window? IP: Logged |
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