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Topic: T-squares..whats the remedy to counter them?
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love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 06:18 AM
  
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love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 06:22 AM
you are right about one thing that self-acceptance has ALWAYS made me happy. i am a kind of person that i blame myself for everything. i can't seem to forgive myself for so many things that happened and i always feel i am myself responsible for everything. i spend years loathing myself, but very recently i started loving myself, accepted myself and changed what i didnt like about myself. and there is something about children, i just don't know what it is, but i have a deep desire to have a baby around me [not necessarily mine] but any baby will do, nurturing etc feels like my thing...IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted May 04, 2011 06:42 AM
Ok here's what I think...your t-square(T for triangle!!!)... involves
Moon(11th house ruler), in Taurus, in opposition to Pluto (2nd house ruler), in Scorpio
This is squared by Mars (8th house ruler) in Aquarius...This suggests to me a difficulty with accepting your own unique way of being, which is different in many ways to the way of being of both your family or mother and friends. Emotionally you are strong and even stubborn but your behaviours at times can be erratic, zany and different and this has caused you to emotionally and psychological reassess how you SHOULD behave as opposed to how you are. You can also be quite rigid with your behaviours and negative emotions can trip you up into a rut. North node in the 7th house and the missing leg in Leo 12th house suggests that being yourself is a learning curve... having children will help you to emotionally return to yourself and being with a partner who loves you for who you are will be resolve conflict in your t-square. Children, sacrificing needs to have children in your life and become less self-focussed will ground and stabilise the t-square. Edit I'm saying children because I see a promising healthy and energetically charged 4th house which suggests also a maternal desire or quality in you. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 08:57 AM
you are right about this, i am the rebellious one in my family, i basically had power issues with my mother, but i resolved that area like two years ago. Pluto-moon opposition is not my concern right now, i am already aware of how to deal with that, my concern was on the missing leg to stabilize the mars part of the opposition. You are head on about children, i crave being a mother, [i'm only 23  ] . I figured this true node in 7th last year and i'm already working on it.I just want to ask one thing, which is better for me? what i am, or what i should be/what others expect me to be? IP: Logged |
RMChex
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posted May 04, 2011 09:03 AM
Hi there,I am just linking your other topic in the Astral Realms section; I wonder if the baby you are seeing in your dreams is a manifestation of your desire to have one? The theme within the dream that you are the one to protect it (from animals, other people, whatever) could be your sub-conscious trying to prove to 'whoever' that you are capable of being a good mum...? Don't know but it sounds possible to me. You sound like you'll be a fantastic mum.. Rachel x ------------------
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love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by RMChex:
Hi there,I am just linking your other topic in the Astral Realms section; I wonder if the baby you are seeing in your dreams is a manifestation of your desire to have one? The theme within the dream that you are the one to protect it (from animals, other people, whatever) could be your sub-conscious trying to prove to 'whoever' that you are capable of being a good mum...? Don't know but it sounds possible to me. You sound like you'll be a fantastic mum.. Rachel x
thank you for that and yes there could be a reason.I see babies in dreams since i was 18.
but why isn't the baby growing up just a joke...
yes i also figured this that this might be just a desire of my innerself which is reflecting in my dreams, but i have a gut feeling that there is more to this baby in my dream than just my subconscious desires. thank you i also feel i'll be a great mum
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Quinnie
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posted May 04, 2011 09:56 AM
Hi lovebeingaries, it's good to know that this resonates with you...I am always fearful of saying directly you see your mother is a source of conflict but since you have said it, yes I think that this is where your t-square stems from. There is no question about it though...Be who you are, and especially now because if children do come along you will willingly and naturally put them before your ego. I should add that children will also bring conflict. T square involves mars in the 5th house so I am visualising arguments with mother about how to raise the children..I should add that although the tsquare brings conflict the stabilising factor of creativity and /or children will ground and resolve it, so whilst children might bring arguments, they will also encourage the self-expression that each party needs to resolve conflict. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 10:08 AM
you are so right on this. my relationship with my mother turned better only after i had to baby-sit a baby for like 4 weeks and that was when things changed for me how i deal with my mother.only after that i found that if i don't solve it with her, its never gonna get better for meso this means that the focus point of the t-square is actually the grounding factor too? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted May 04, 2011 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I have a t-square with Venus/Pluto/Jupiter.
H4/H7/H10Apparently I gots lots to learn in the whole love/relationship department.. Worst area of my life... Lots and lots of issue... How do I deal, well I just take one day at a time... I get my lessons one right after another, shrug what can I say..
Does matters regarding H1 help u out when dealing with tSq? Are u by being strong personality more capable to work out issues with H4,7,10,and their constant clashing? IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted May 04, 2011 10:47 AM
I have 3 a close conj between Mars, Merc and Jupiter in Aqua, closely opposed to Uranus in Leo, closely squared by my Taurus Moon~and all closely aspecting my Scorp asc.Challenges? Well, one just has to learn to live with them, one has to overcome one then take on the next...they will never go away, but one's perception can change and, eventually, not feel so stressed and just go with it. Like roadwarrior said, just live, and eventually one has to come to know this... The missing leg thing still confuses me. A very gifted astrologer once told me somehthing about the misssing leg re my 3 fixed t-squares. My bfriend has a Mars in Scorp that conj my asc within 1 deg...I wonder if this counts and how? t~~~
by the way I am a Pisces sun, with a hell of alot of Aqua who just wants peace...just peace and my t-squares, I think, are an opportunity for me to learn to make my own peace...
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Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted May 04, 2011 11:01 AM
I have a tight T-Square with my Moon (1st) opposing Mercury (7th) and square Chiron (10st).Since i was a kid i've always had conflicts regarding these areas, so myself, the others and my career. So i've figured out that i need to choose a career through which i can find myself, i can help others and i can heal/be healed at the same time. Beside that, im carrying very deep emotional wounds, and im very reserved when it comes to emotions and expressing them. I find it difficoult to make myself understood with others, especially when strong emotions are involved. My missing leg is Sagittarius, and no doubt that i have a lot to learn about how to be more open and lighthearted when it comes to relationships and life in general. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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posted May 04, 2011 06:20 PM
i have a t-sqaure with my sun/mars/merc conjunction, squaring saturn/neptune/uranus conjunction, opposing my jupiter/chiron conjunction. theyr all in cardinal signs in my 6th, 9th/8th cusp/3rd house. soo id say a lot of the stress is directed towards me mentally, communications, restless energy, and trying to stay focused on hobbies and just projects in general that i start. a lot of the time i think my confidence levels fluctuate and my energy and drive fluctuates too but i think it gives me a lot of driving force as well. combined with my venus/pluto conjunction in the 7th that in my earlier years i had issues with relationships and getting along with people but i wouldnt think the t-square was that inhibiting. i deffinately had obsticles to overcome but it all comes with willpower and i just possitively self talk myself through it. i dont know if its just a libra sun/merc/mars, it probably contributes, but ill go through periods of just wanting to completely give up and escape from everything, mentally and physically. IP: Logged |
roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 04, 2011 06:48 PM
moon square venus, what you feel can only be satisfied by something that is now what you want...your desireous nature is seperat efrom your emotional nature so that you have to satisfy each seperately or grow or find a creative sollution to satisfy both..example if venus is in the 10th and in aquarius you want a unique job, something eccentric relating to lightning in terms of rush and feeling and emotion where as your moon, what satisfies your emotions from a feeling level or from a security standpoint could be in the 1st, or 12th and then you would feel more secure keeping everything secret...where as venus would have you be public... for example - masked rapper...still gets recognized but nobody sees his face. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze
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posted May 09, 2011 05:43 AM
I have 14 T Squares, I'm not too sure in what way this manifests or how it impacts me.T-Square from Sun: Vir to Moo: Gem and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Sun: Vir to Moo: Gem and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Sun: Vir to Jup: Can and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Sun: Vir to Jup: Can and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Moo: Gem and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Moo: Gem and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Jup: Can and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Jup: Can and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Jup: Can and Nep: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Moo: Gem and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Moo: Gem and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Jup: Can and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Jup: Can and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Jup: Can and Nep: Cap ------------------
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love being Aries
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posted May 09, 2011 07:13 AM
swift freeze, but they all are in certain parts of your chart, aren't they? there must be certain houses where they are residingIP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted May 09, 2011 07:39 AM
Lovebeingaries...."so this means that the focus point of the t-square is actually the grounding factor too?"......Yes I think the focus point of the t-square...or rather it's polarity, can be both a source of tension but ultimately the missing piece of the jigsaw or grounding factor, and it would be an extremely powerful tug to have someone else's natal planet or angle at this degree in synastry. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 09, 2011 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Quinnie:
Lovebeingaries...."so this means that the focus point of the t-square is actually the grounding factor too?"......Yes I think the focus point of the t-square...or rather it's polarity, can be both a source of tension but ultimately the missing piece of the jigsaw or grounding factor, and it would be an extremely powerful tug to have someone else's natal planet or angle at this degree in synastry.
sorry but just for sake of clarification, you mean to have someone's planet or angle at for example, my 5th house,which is part of T-square or in my 4th house which is between my 2nd and 5th house opposing planets??
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posted May 09, 2011 01:18 PM
i've got saturn in scorpio in the 11th opposite venus in taurus in the 5th which all squares jupiter in aquarius in the 2nd. i guess the missing leg would be in leo in the 8th? no idea what this all could mean.IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted May 09, 2011 02:14 PM
"sorry but just for sake of clarification, you mean to have someone's planet or angle at for example, my 5th house,which is part of T-square or in my 4th house which is between my 2nd and 5th house opposing planets?? "
Yes...but even more so if the planet/angle was conjunct the missing leg...
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Swift Freeze
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posted May 09, 2011 02:50 PM
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posted July 16, 2011 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
I have 14 T Squares, I'm not too sure in what way this manifests or how it impacts me.T-Square from Sun: Vir to Moo: Gem and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Sun: Vir to Moo: Gem and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Sun: Vir to Jup: Can and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Sun: Vir to Jup: Can and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Moo: Gem and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Moo: Gem and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Jup: Can and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Jup: Can and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mer: Lib to Jup: Can and Nep: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Moo: Gem and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Moo: Gem and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Jup: Can and Sat: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Jup: Can and Ura: Cap
T-Square from Mar: Lib to Jup: Can and Nep: Cap
Is this actually possible? I have t-square, I'm not sure how it plays out. I would like to explore this more. My tsquare is with venus square moon/uranus, and square chiron. My (horrible) ex had the same(without the moon). He also had moon square saturn and mars. I am intrigued. Someone here hasthe same planetary t-square. I assume it would definitely come to play in relationships: mars=what you desire, moon=emotional security in a relationship, and the saturn=what you commit to. Anyone want to share their t-squares?
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posted July 16, 2011 07:36 PM
You have to consciously incorporate the missing leg of the tsquare that would turn it into a Grand Cross.So! An example:
If it is t square Mars Aries/Merc Capricorn/Jupiter Cancer the missing leg (sign) in that equation is the remaining Cardinal sign of Libra, you'd incorporate balanced thinking, giving others the benefit of the doubt, iron fist in velvet glove approach, etc. and voila it all starts swimming and things get off the ground. Don't forget to factor the house where that missing point in Libra would be found. ACT AS IF you have a Libra planet at that degree in that house and a lot of tension will be released and you will be able to accomplish much more. IP: Logged |
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posted July 16, 2011 09:55 PM
Solution to the 'T' Square
A: via harmonious Aspects.
The tension of the 'T' Square can be released or positively expressed through the planet which makes the closest sextile or trine to any of the three planets in the 'T' Square. In this example the emotional tension of the Sun-Mars-Saturn 'T' Square can be released through the sextile to Jupiter in Cancer. 
B. Development of Opposite Characteristics
The tension of the 'T' Square focuses on the planet at the apex, in this case Venus, and the part of the chart immediately opposite may also act as a focus for problems. By coping with them the whole situation can be eased and turned to advantage. In this example Venus in the eighth house, squared to Uranus and Saturn, suggests business difficulties. This may bring second house problems - personal financial ones with an inability to handle money. By learning how to deal with these issues, the eighth house problems, and the whole 'T' Square, can be helped.
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Lonake
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posted July 16, 2011 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
i was just about to start a thread on mine. so wha bout mine lonake? is it sag (duplicated in placidus)or cap (equal)? which house is the solution? 3rd right?
You posted the equal house chart so for this one it would be Aquarius in the 4th, but either way it would be in early Aquarius, around 3 degrees, that nicely completes a grand cross. That's also around my Mercury (which is 5) if in placidus it falls in another house, just google aquarius on the cusp of the 3rd to get you started with some ideas of how to supercharge that area of your life. Aquarius 3rd house is an outspoken placement, will give their views to those they meet everyday whether asked for or not, is not afraid to put forth unconventional views, does not care if everyone has the big suv they may say f-u and ride their bike, they will stick to their guns in arguments, but they'd rather not argue anyway, they would adhere to think globally act locally. These are some impressions I have of Aqua in the 3rd.
Aquarius in the 4th the saving grace is rock hard ideals that they cling to regardless. They will live with who they please, and their abode will not be the typical home on the inside, it holds diversities and lots of people coming together to exchange different views, this is how they are nourished.
The main thing with your tsquare is it misses the idealism and detachment of Aquarius, so those could be 2 key words for you. IP: Logged |
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