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love being Aries
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posted May 03, 2011 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just wondering that many people have t-squares in their charts. They are really really stressful and i know because i have one.

was just wondering what can be a possible remedy to counter the stress it brings in life? some people say that you need to focus on the house and sign opposite to your t-square.. what does it mean?

anyone having a t-square in their chart and whats your take on that?

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posted May 03, 2011 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have two T-Square, one of is between Moon, Venus and Mars...

İf you dont have a strong Pluto and Saturn(placement and aspects) I wish you good luck... If you dont focus that T-S, events that you will have been gone through, will force you to focus and fix one way or another so be ready for it. Wait for Chiron and Pluto transits to the planets involving T-S to fix that T-S. T-S involving personal planets are hardest ones...

One advice from me, live and feel the painful and stressful moments to the bottom and then "REBIRTH", thus you start to have control over many things.

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posted May 03, 2011 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 03, 2011 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Hard liquor

Honestly, I don't know.
I have a double T-square with Moon/Saturn/Mars-Pluto (conjunct) and it's been hell.
The energy is very difficult to integrate; but I know I'm not the only one to have a hardcore natal chart, so I just go with the flow I guess.

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posted May 03, 2011 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for insideintrovert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God's only knows with me and I have a double T square in cardinal signs. Guess what, there are major planets in Cardinal signs right now - so I'm gonna what to see what is shaken up.

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posted May 03, 2011 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No clue.

I have one between Saturn-Uranus/Mars/Chiron. Its crap most of the time, but hell whenever a transiting outer activates it. Like pluto in 2008, or Uranus right now.

The theory you're talking about is focusing on the missing leg...which is opposite the focal point (the planet in the middle).

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posted May 03, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no T-squares if you count just the planets. But if you add the major asteroids (Pars Fortune, Juno, Vertex, Vesta, Ceres, "East Point", Pallas, Chrion, Lilith and Pholus)

Fortune - Juno - Venus
Fortune - Juno - Neptune
Fortune - Vesta - Venus
Fortune - Vesta - Neptune
Ceres - East Point - Sun
Ceres - East Point - Saturn
Ceres - Vertex - Saturn
Mercury - Pallas - Vertex

Any website that might be able to elaborate on what these could mean, since some asteroids are involved?

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posted May 03, 2011 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Edit, wrong chart, be back with the right one, LOL

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posted May 03, 2011 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a T-square in my chart and it IS stressful (my grand trine kinda balances it out a bit).

In any case, the sign and placement of the degree opposite my t-square is 2 Pisces, which is conjunct my IC. As a result, I've found that being in solitude (IC influence I think) and being able to release my control (Pisces) really helps me to regain my own sanity in stressful situations.

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posted May 03, 2011 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a t-square with Venus/Pluto/Jupiter.
H4/H7/H10

Apparently I gots lots to learn in the whole love/relationship department..

Worst area of my life... Lots and lots of issue...

How do I deal, well I just take one day at a time... I get my lessons one right after another, shrug what can I say..

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posted May 03, 2011 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can help you wiht your t-square...

it's three heads.....six arms type of deal

super talented, never time alone, always multi ambitious as in having three things going...need to devot eyour life to goals, learn to relax and be less of a perfectionist

while at the same time working hard..

i have a weird t-square sevearl to chiron and my ascendant, and mercury conjunct my descendant and uranus...

it's venus and moon are square up in the north to the east and south walls of my chart

it's nuts...alot of shooting yourself in the foot...until you stop caring about everything and just live.

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i can help you wiht your t-square...

it's three heads.....six arms type of deal

super talented, never time alone, always multi ambitious as in having three things going...need to devot eyour life to goals, learn to relax and be less of a perfectionist

while at the same time working hard..

i have a weird t-square sevearl to chiron and my ascendant, and mercury conjunct my descendant and uranus...

it's venus and moon are square up in the north to the east and south walls of my chart

it's nuts...alot of shooting yourself in the foot...until you stop caring about everything and just live.

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posted May 04, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(road, do you have a Moon Venus square?
How do you think it plays out?)

(Sorry out of topic).

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Quinnie
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posted May 04, 2011 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The theory you're talking about is focusing on the missing leg...which is opposite the focal point (the planet in the middle)".

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posted May 04, 2011 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMChex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any of the astro websites tell you if you have a T-square? I do have a basic understanding of what they are, but I'm so incapable of working it out, its ridiculous... I'd love to know if I have one!

Thanks (and sorry!)

Rachel

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posted May 04, 2011 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RMChex
You could post your chart on here or planet positions and we could tell you.
A T-square involves a square aspect to an opposition aspect in your chart... So for example for the current transit...
Venus in Aries opposes Saturn in Libra, the Moon moving in to Cancer will square this and create a T-square transit.

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love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MertSerimer:
i have two T-Square, one of is between Moon, Venus and Mars...

İf you dont have a strong Pluto and Saturn(placement and aspects) I wish you good luck... If you dont focus that T-S, events that you will have been gone through, will force you to focus and fix one way or another so be ready for it. Wait for Chiron and Pluto transits to the planets involving T-S to fix that T-S. T-S involving personal planets are hardest ones...

One advice from me, live and feel the painful and stressful moments to the bottom and then "REBIRTH", thus you start to have control over many things.



my thing is that i have a locomotive chart and pluto in 3rd is my cutting planet

and the T-S is between pluto/mars/moon-jupiter[they are conjunct]

Houses are 3rd/5th/8th
signs on cusp are scorpio/capricorn/aries

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posted May 04, 2011 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
i can help you wiht your t-square...



my T-S is between pluto/mars/moon-jupiter

Houses are 3rd/5th/8th
signs on cusp are scorpio/capricorn/aries


the opposite "missing leg" is leo and 11th house

just cant figure out what it means here

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posted May 04, 2011 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMChex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Quinnie:
RMChex
You could post your chart on here or planet positions and we could tell you.
A T-square involves a square aspect to an opposition aspect in your chart... So for example for the current transit...
Venus in Aries opposes Saturn in Libra, the Moon moving in to Cancer will square this and create a T-square transit.

Thank you, that would be great.

My chart:

The details:

Would a T-square look like a T on the chart?

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love being Aries
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posted May 04, 2011 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RMChex:


Would a T-square look like a T on the chart?


no it would be like a red triangle.its a square with a "missing leg" which balances the whole thing, which this thread is meant to be about

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posted May 04, 2011 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would see a T-square clearly on your chart in the shape of a T....You don't have the orbs for a T-square so no you don't have one.

You do have contrasting energies that if they were closer in degree would make a T-square... Your Moon/Mars opposition would be square to Pluto if it were at say 5 Libra...
And if this were the case and your Jupiter was also at early degrees of Aries, that would make two oppositions aspecting each other which is a grand cross.

But nope, no t-square

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posted May 04, 2011 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RMChex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh, thank you. I don't think I have one then, looking at my chart.

I'm sorry if it seemed like I was pulling the thread off course; that wasn't my intention, I was genuinely trying to join in but my lack of experience and understanding makes it difficult.

So to remedy the effects of the T-square, I'm guessing it would be necessary to work out where the missing leg would be, and treat that as a 'to-do-better' area? If that is the bit that is missing in the square, then that area might need more work.... so perhaps the T-square is a good thing? At least if you know where the problem might be, you have a head start on fixing it.

Of course, I might have misunderstood it all again...?!

Rachel

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posted May 04, 2011 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
love being Aries

How to resolve your t-square?
Hmmm mothering, relationships with women, emotional intimacy and security, Nurturing one's emotions, rationalising unhealthy emotional reactions.....

Cancer appears to be the missing leg.

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posted May 04, 2011 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about the missing leg being in pisces?

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Quinnie
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posted May 04, 2011 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not reading posts properly...
Sorry Lovebeingaries wrote that the missing leg is in Leo...
So self-acceptance, self-expression, creativity, love, children and fun! might help resolve the t-square...

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