posted July 16, 2011 11:39 PM            

so is the solution still to be aquarian? my vertex is there somewhere.

posted July 17, 2011 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i was just about to start a thread on mine. so wha bout mine lonake? is it sag (duplicated in placidus)or cap (equal)? which house is the solution? 3rd right?

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The "solution" would be at 3'aqua. If you hung out with me, my mercury at 10'aqua would 'balance' you out

posted July 17, 2011 12:24 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
question here regarding T=square and synastry. Say someone fills your t-square. Is that an extra attraction factor? Are you more attracted to someone who will fill your T-square, and/or is the person who fills your T-square more attracted to you? Does that play out in any way? Just a question to throw out there...

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posted July 17, 2011 12:30 AM            

It's complicated... hmmm. For example: my tsquare "balancing leg" would be at 10' cancer, ie, opposite my cap venus.(This cancer placement is just under my descendent incidently). BUT, I have a water void in my chart, and I do not reeeelly relate to, nor am I attracted to water signs generally (pisces may be an exception if they have aqua planets).

Also, this "third leg" is opposite my venus, and square the other two planets of the t-square - surely this would be quite tense, this grand square -someone coming along and creating even more tension?

I have resolved the "problem" by exercising conscious ownership of my descendant sign; Ive incorporated the more emotional/nurturing qualities of cancer (the third leg) into my nature.

I don't generally go for the cancerian type for romance. I do have 3 very good cancerian friends interestingly. They are long distance though, I don't see them often at all.

What happens if you don't incorporate it then? Like my ex? I tried to open him up to the more compassionate and universal principles of pisces, as this is where his third leg is(opposite his virgo moon, square his sagg mars, and gemini saturn). But, he also has a water void and doesn't relate to water/emotional principles AT ALL. He sees emotions - and even compassion - as weakness. He's quite the hard-ass.

posted July 17, 2011 01:34 AM            

interesting i have an air void as well. i thought some stuff pointed to gemini partners coz juno is in that sign as well but my vertex is at 24' aquarius. maybe it doesn't have to be a lover. my other brother has an aqua stellium. and could be friends as well.

aqua in the 4th sounds very bohemian. sounds cool!

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Aquarius in the 4th House

The Aquarius influence in the 4th House suggests that some of the personal hopes and wishes are directly associated with domestic and family affairs. The implication here is that there will be few, if any, changes of residence and if there are they will be of paramount importance. Some of the earlier hopes and wishes will be realized during the latter part of life. The closing years of life are usually very comfortable and peaceful for the native. He takes a tremendous interest in the activities of his grandchildren and will do anything possible to help.

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posted July 17, 2011 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
That's a good question.
ok, lacking water and missing leg is in Cancer near dsc, so imo you are doing really well with the conscious cultivation. Is cancer the actual dsc sign, do you find that you attract Cancers but aren't attracted to them, or water heavy people? It could just be that you're doing it so well that you don't need it from a romantic partner, etc, that you're being proactive which is good. As to your ex (or current guy I forget which) with the missing Pisces, what about not so much the emotional realm but the pisces creative or spiritual realm, esoteric stuff? Or would he laugh

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Hmm, thanks lonake for taking the question further.

Yes, cancer is on the descendant for me. I don't have that many water signs actually around me. Thanks for your acknowledgement of my conscious exercise to incorporate the energy

I think this has, kind of, been forced on me to do. I have gone through periods of attracting water signs, and instinctually been driven to them, being curious of their foreign nature (I wont say attracted to them however), and perhaps me looking to balance myself, instinctively/unconsciously. I think though, and understanding of astrology over the years has helped me to work this out, they are simply, pretty much an incompatible nature to me. So it just doesn't work at all. Being female too, means that, it's ok, or even points to necessary, to incorporate these more emotional/sensitive principles into my psyche. Whereas a male may have more resisitance to doing so, as well as, more acceptable for them to "import" that emotional/sensitive energy via other people/relationships, as is traditionally done in romantic relationships where the male/female polarities are carried by each partner.

Does that make sense?

And yes, I tried the meditive/spiritual angle too, but he is a lot of capricorn/aqua (as I am too but him more so), he is more into material and social status, or so it turned out.

posted July 17, 2011 02:04 AM            

How is it for other t-square people where it's not on an angle or anything? Is that third leg just floating out there in the mids of some house? It is for my ex - it's at 22' pisces, smack in the middle of his 3rd house.

posted July 17, 2011 04:21 AM            

I have lots of grand trines and a few kites that help smooth the above t squares and grand crosses out.
for the first t square the 'way out' is through 10th house career and for the second t square it is 12th house gemini matters

Don't know much about grand crosses.

posted July 17, 2011 05:02 AM            

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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
• T-square: Ascendant, North Node and Moon
• grand cross: Moon, Mercury, North Node and Mars
• grand cross: Moon, Mercury, North Node and South Node
• T-square: North Node, Saturn and Moon

I have lots of grand trines and a few kites that help smooth the above t squares and grand crosses out.
for the first t square the 'way out' is through 10th house career and for the second t square it is 12th house gemini matters

Don't know much about grand crosses.

for the poster who had lots of t squares and the poster who questioned that, yes it is possible to have this many is my answer.

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posted July 17, 2011 12:34 PM            

The way it seems to work for me is that is constantly drives me to want to gain complete self-control(Saturn)over my emotions (moon), my mind (mercury), my spirit (neptune) and the way I relate to people (venus). Of course this is futile, but deep down, there is a belief that all these areas of my life are fundamentally flawed and unruly; out of control .... and they need discipline.

Most of all I feel really driven to cut through illusion and am quite happy to spend hours beating up myself if I find out I have allowed myself to be deceived by something or have allowed “my emotions to get out of hand” etc. It is like having my own personal torture chamber in my head, all the time.

It is kind of exhausting, I really WANT to express my Venus/Merc/Moon/Neptune, but I can’t really do it without being a complete masochist at the same time.

In the end I've just got to make peace with it, accept that's how I am and stay conscious enough so it doesn't get out of hand. Oh yes, and learn to detach a bit when when I get too serious about myself and learn to laugh at my own inner angst and dramatics.

Well, Leo is in the empty leg. (Saturn at apex is in Aquarius)

posted July 17, 2011 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by samsaoule:
As for me, I am still running after my missing leg.

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posted July 17, 2011 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
ive noticed that since my t-sqaure is in the 3rd,6th,9th that my 12th is the opposite house thats needed to balance the t-sqaure.. and time alone, spiritual healing, and 12 house matters too balance me out.

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posted July 17, 2011 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[b]Northern,
Just really quickly my impression of that tsquare is passion and a strong mind, there is love to give but a feeling that when you put it out there it is not valued as much as you believe it should and that can cause a seesaw in the emotional barometer. It could be called 'Great Expectations.'

The 'missing leg' would be in Leo, and Leo loves to just give out love and warmth because it doesn't know how else to be. It shines because it doesn't know how to be dark. So that could be a lesson, to not expect as much and focus more on generosity of spirit.[/B]

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