posted June 04, 2011 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
describe the words that are said in the bedroom....

the reason i ask is because what is said or not said during the act of procreation speaks alot about the real nature of the relationship...the inner core.
http://youtu.be/fYMHDqwLnpc

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posted June 04, 2011 04:27 AM            

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Originally posted by blugrey:
I dunno. It's easy to say "I cannot live without someone" or "I love them to death" In my opinion, it's hard to ever put a measurement on love. Or it could simply be that I have never considered those things to be romantic or a part of love in the first place. Or maybe I'm just simply not capable of experience that kind of love - or have never experienced a real "Saturn" love.

But I do not like heaviness or weighted feelings when it comes to love. To me North Node is a much more telling way of looking at love when it comes to Karma or if you don't believe in that, at least something that deals with growth. To me, Saturn simply locks people up together for good or bad. Maybe this is what you are experiencing.

I am much more a Pluto lover considering it's conjunct my DESC in Scorpio.

I will look at the relationship where I have had the strongest feelings/emotions. Here is the synastry involving Saturn:

Vertex (his) conjunct Saturn
Venus (his) opposition Saturn
Mars (mine) opposition Saturn
Pluto sextile Saturn (Double Whammy)
ASC (mine) trine Saturn
Venus (mine) Qx Saturn
Saturn conjunct Saturn (Double whammy)
Saturn conjunct Neptune (Double whammy)

Of course we were born rather close together so the last two don't really mean much.

This is someone that I simply cannot let out of my life. He also wishes to continue our friendship. I am not sure now how he feels about me at the present. Frankly, I don't care. I will be there for him no matter what happens and I would be the first one by his side during times of trouble. I guess in that sense, Saturn is playing out. It's not always a pleasant or easy friendship, but it's definitely powerful and a learning process. I think Saturn always teaches - sometimes with mixed results.

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allow me to interpret....saturn conjunct vertex(his) he wishes to lift your burdens by transforming your realities...did at first....a spiraling so to speak after first meeting each other......your burdens in effect changed his perception of reality....not only your burdens but maybe the gifts of your struggle..

posted June 04, 2011 05:54 AM            

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maybe I'm just simply not capable of experience that kind of love

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That's how I felt also before I met him!

Whether you feel something strongly or not - could depend on orbs as well.
It's too much to put down to coincidence that our Saturn aspects in synastry and comp are at a 0' deg orb.
I must've had Saturn aspects with other people, but maybe it was not felt as much.

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I will be there for him no matter what happens and I would be the first one by his side during times of trouble. I guess in that sense, Saturn is playing out. It's not always a pleasant or easy friendship, but it's definitely powerful and a learning process.

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I can relate to this. There is definitely a strong feeling of trust. I don't see it as similar to Chiron though, because Chiron is not as obvious to me. It seems more hidden and less comfortable. But it could just be because of my Capricorn influence that I find Saturn aspects comfortable.

Loveless,

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I think I have a lot of these aspects with someone in our synastry.

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posted June 04, 2011 06:05 AM            

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Saturn haha. Yes, tons of Saturn aspects down to the parallels of declination, incl. a Saturn-Saturn square and no Venus-Mars and just a Venus-Pluto sesqui.

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Yea lol you're right about the (contra)parallels! Tons of...
and in my case.. incl. a Saturn-Venus conjunction and I guess a less important Saturn-Moon conj. out of SIGN. (5,5*)

My other true ex (we're still in contact after 20 years) has his Saturn conjunct my NN/Mars.. and my Saturn opp. his Mars.

posted June 04, 2011 06:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
NO!
This thread is like a sign.

I am currently emotionally involved with someone, and we share some harcdore Saturn aspects.

We have Saturn opp Moon DW (0° and 3°)
His Saturn sq my Mars (0°), trine my Venus and Jupiter (0°), sq my Asc (3°)
My Saturn opp his Mars (6°), sq his Venus (6°), qcx his Mercury (2°)

I will probably never see him again.
The last time I will see him is June 8th.

I don't know whether to tell him something about my deep feelings or just let him go.

I actually do feel like dying without him.
It's very intense yet full of fear and limitations.

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posted June 04, 2011 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Lol Mert.
I have a loaded Saturn, and it trines my Jupiter-Venus, so it kind of cancels things out.

But thank you for the nice words

I don't know if I should be fatalistic and let things be or try to take action, you know? That's the dilemma.

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posted June 04, 2011 07:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Anna-Lena:
Hi!

I am new here so I will just share my personal experience with this one. My late husband and I had Saturn op Sun 1 degree, Saturn square Sun 1 degree and Saturn square Moon 5 degress. We were married for 30 years until he passed away a couple of years ago. He died at home in my arms.

For sure we had our ups and downs but we did really, really love each other.

By the way, he was a lot older than me.

All the best/Anna-Lena(in Sweden)

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posted June 04, 2011 08:37 AM            

And thanks abcd. I coped, I think, because of Saturn. All my personal planets except Mars is ruled by him. And you know Saturn-people; we just keep working....and working...and working....

Also I coped because we have a wonderful son and an adorable grandaughter and a truly wonderful daughter-in-law.

And art, music, books - all those things.

posted June 04, 2011 09:25 AM            

We have other links too like Venus conjunct Neptune and moon/Pluto conjunct moon Pluto in Libra sextile the Venus/Neptune conjunction.

Also, ascendant node conjunct.

I have loved her since the moment our eyes met 23 years ago. Too bad we are both in bad marriages with the wrong people. Who knows, maybe we'll be together later in life.

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted June 05, 2011 01:14 AM            

Fear can be very binding, but ultimately, it can be not so pleasant.

I have a current break up with mostly easy aspects, and I rather prefer it. It doesn't have the anxiety factor.

However, becuase it is easy (trines), you can hardly notice it really. Therefore, it could give the impression that there is nothing "strong" enough binding the couple together.

He perhaps doesn't feel the fear of losing me, therefore equates that with not enough love. Therefore, perhaps is seeking some other relationship, where he will feel more binded.

I can't live without that person=I must love them and it is fated.

posted June 05, 2011 03:32 AM            

Maybe because, you feel strongly that something needs to be worked out. That can have a kind of fated feel to it - like something's pulling you to resolve something.

posted June 05, 2011 04:39 AM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Saturn i'd imagine in terms of bedroom....would be that hard stuff....like when a guy and a girl are makin what they call in english...love....and the lady or man grabs the other by the face but not too hard while it's going on and says..."look at me"....and as it's happening(the dirty deeds)....."If I ever catch you with another woman i'll chop em off"......

that's saturn in love.

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