posted July 13, 2011 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
It makes sense. Because Saturn reward's are always better than Jupiter's luck. Look at famous people charts. Saturn is strong. Actualyyit is not a planet of despair. It is the planet of karma and reality. Deserve the love and then enjoy. That is all.

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posted July 14, 2011 07:43 PM            

Him - I want to slow down.
Two days later flirting and intimate with her.

Always limitation "ghosts" hovering over. They could have ended their friendship 5-10 times. Each situation they come back with a closer, stronger bond.

Synastry
Sun square Saturn 0*
Moon trine Saturn 0*
Saturn square Mercury 1*
Saturn sextile Venus 1*
Saturn sextile MC 1*/2* DW

posted July 15, 2011 09:48 AM            

Saturn craves what it touches, and always feels a compulsion to master and control that aspect of your life because you want it so much and believe that you should do much better than your current performance. The sign and house placement of your Natal Saturn will determine the way that you go about trying to achieve control, mastery or a realistic grasp over things in your life. It also describes what you feel inhibited about because you think you are not quite good enough.

When Saturn is in aspect to a planet in the Natal chart, you will be put under pressure to become more realistic about and gain self-control over the area of life that the contacted planet represents. Chances are, you will never quite feel satisfied that you have mastered it - no matter how much you work on it – which is why Saturn makes you feel inhibited in its expression and you are under so much compulsion to work on it. Saturn points to the fact that there are lessons you need to learn in order to improve the functioning of the contacted planet so that it works in the real world. These will take place though challenges imposed on it from the outside world, which are both painful and compelling. The challenges will potentially force you to recognise what you need to do in order to operate in a responsible and effective manner. You will also learn what the illusionary or counter-productive elements are that are preventing you from reaching your goals. You always crave the qualities of the planet which Saturn contacts, but are delayed from benefiting from them until you use the energy in a way that is self-disciplined and of a high standard. Not denied, just delayed .... until you get it right

Mastery over anything can only be achieved through rigorous life lessons. Saturn ensures that circumstances in your life will manifest in order to awaken a need to “improve” the functioning of the contacted planet. Saturn will drive you to mature and get a solid grip on what it takes to express the contacted planet’s energy in a self-disciplined way so that its expression is constrained within limits that facilitate its effectiveness when operating in the real world.

With soft aspects to Saturn, you will be more likely to want to co-operate with the lessons you need to learn to achieve mastery. It will be like Mary Poppins is the teacher – you still have to learn, but the pill is sweetened.

But with hard aspects, it will feel more like Attila the Hun is your teacher. His penchant is to get his point across using exquisite torture methods. It is much harder to want to resist the lesson when you feel you are being horse-whipped into shape!

But either way, you will learn. The difference is that if you learn to master the expression of the contacted planet by means of a soft aspect to Saturn, you will most certainly benefit from your effort and hard work, but your self-awareness may not have developed very much in the process. Conversely, with the hard aspects, mastery of the Saturn lesson will be harder to achieve, but personal growth will be huge and it will be accompanied by tremendous insight.

Of course, in either case (soft or hard aspects), if you fail to learn – you will continuously feel that craving to express the qualities of the contacted planet and feel like you are being denied opportunities in that area of life. You feel victimised (“poor me!”) and resistant to change. It will seem that something or someone outside is always at fault and being nasty to you and making bad things happen in the area of life that are signified by the aspect.

posted July 15, 2011 10:19 AM            

Librarising is probably not a reputable site to quote , however there was something on that site that spoke of relationships being playfull(Leo), stimulating(Gemini) and full of compromise(Libra).

I have always viewed relationships as an opportunity to see which part of me will "show up" whilst I am relating to another(romantically or otherwise).

What Saturn does, or atleast what it reperesents, is the creation of the illusion of distance.

When two people feel distant from each other, they often shout to compensate for the space between them,to cover the distance between them because the illusion of separation feels so real.

" You don't understand me!"

"Why do you never listen to me?"

"why do you interrupt me when I am talking?" etc.

What Saturn does, or atleast what the planet represents is that illusion of space. That illusion that you feel misunderstood.

But relationships with other beings is not the only way that this plays itself out.

When we want something, we often feel that we need to "deserve" whatever that thing is i.e lucrative career, money, status, beauty etc.

Saturn here plays on the ilusion that that thing that we want so badly, we often feel is A PART of us, is infact APART from us.

Saturn gives us the impression that there is a distance between us and that particular thing and so it creates the illusion of having to "work" to lessen the distance between it and us, until we feel that we "deserve " whatever that thing is.

When we are getting along with others(venus), seeing another point of view(mercury), attracted to someone's spirit(mars) and seeing our lives grow and multiply with them (Jupiter), we often feel like our lives are worthwhile, that we are worthwhile(Sun).

When Saturn gets involved, it throws a spanner in the works; people "change" right before our eyes, we are not "attracted " to them anymore, we start to see their "flaws" etc

The only challenge that Saturn imposes is not to buy into that illusion. Don't buy into that space that separates; don't close in , hide away, conract or conform to that illusion.

It is always a challenge to remember that you once loved the person, idea, place etc and that all these feelimgs of "separateness" are an illuison.

The least involved Saturn is, the better... Relationships, in my view, are not defined by how long you hold on to that person, but rather if your time with them was worthwhile. Not about how long the relationship lasted but who you became in the process of the relationship "happening".

posted July 15, 2011 10:25 PM            

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I think you need to look at the operation in the Natal first, before you can see what it is doing in Synastry.

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The neat thing about that is.. I think we attracted this Saturnian relationship because of our natal Saturns:

posted July 15, 2011 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
I have always considered Neptune to be the planet that represents your capacity to deal with illusion, not Saturn.

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posted July 16, 2011 04:02 AM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
actually neptune brings the illusion, saturn shows the reality so you get dissappointed.

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posted July 16, 2011 05:22 AM            

Saturn is love definitely.

It's the law of universe which is love and unions aka cosmic lovemaking.

Of course it becomes a whip for hurters, stealers, etc.
But for those just wanting to have fun&enjoy life is a blessing.

No accident that venus is ruler of Cap (law and Sat) on hierarchical level, and Sat is exalted in the sign of venus&partnerships - Libra.

posted November 11, 2011 10:18 AM            

I do have a questions though,

What woud it mean when a man has his sun conjunct Saturn and him and I share Venus conjunct Saturn DW? How would that affect him?

posted November 12, 2011 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
Different Saturn Relationship conversations:
Him - Let's take a break.
Her - Good deal.
Next day she texts him and says that he makes her happy by being in her life. They continue working on their issues. They become close again.

Him - I want to slow down.
Two days later flirting and intimate with her.

Always limitation "ghosts" hovering over. They could have ended their friendship 5-10 times. Each situation they come back with a closer, stronger bond.

Synastry
Sun square Saturn 0*
Moon trine Saturn 0*
Saturn square Mercury 1*
Saturn sextile Venus 1*
Saturn sextile MC 1*/2* DW

Composite
Saturn square Mars 2*

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posted September 02, 2013 06:23 PM            

I was such a drama queen back when I wrote in this thread...

posted September 02, 2013 06:26 PM            

Sun conjunct saturn
Saturn conjunct uranus

Saturn trine sun
Pluto trine saturn
Saturn trine jupiter

Venus semisextile saturn

Mc quintile saturn

Neptune opposite saturn

In composite:

posted September 02, 2013 06:34 PM            

LOL I use to be so tsundere, it's not even funny.
saturn takes years to warm up...

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
blugrey - I know it is normally not considered a 'love planet'..

But I was surprised because...
every time I hear the words "I love him/her to death", "I cannot live without him/her" - I check the synastry and the Saturn aspect pops up. They are not easy relationships, but the love runs very deep.

That is how I feel and that is how he feels ^ and neither of us have felt this way before.
So maybe there is something about Saturn intensifying feelings? Or maybe it's because of the karmic connection - as Mertzy mentioned.

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posted September 02, 2013 06:44 PM            

I think he found his soul mate. I am amazed but it was really along the lines of a miracle.

If you knew him, he stayed a virgin to try to honor God.

People made fun of him but he didn't care.

He wanted a soul mate so badly and just prayed and trusted God and I think this girl is it.

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Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted September 02, 2013 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Omg why did you bump this, O!!!

I was such a drama queen back when I wrote in this thread...

*hides*

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it's an interesting read. Saturn has such mysterious ways.

so, what happened with your boy? Did you tell him?

posted September 02, 2013 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
it's an interesting read. Saturn has such mysterious ways.

so, what happened with your boy? Did you tell him?

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