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blugrey
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posted July 03, 2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun and Merc hit this guy's NN AND Chiron. He pretty much hates being around me (well, I can't read his mind, he doesn't look to particularly happy).... but I like him so much! haha

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allouette
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posted July 03, 2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vedic astrologers say that NN (they call it Rahu)"matures" when one turns 42

from my experience, synastry and transits, I never really seem to "get" the NN energy

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SensibleHeart
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posted July 06, 2011 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SensibleHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes Sensible Heart
It was really hard!


This same nn person that i have, my chiron trines his venus. I know trines are kind of positive and lazy, and it might not exert much influence, but our contact has been kind of turbulent too, filled with a lot of growing pains because we started dating when i was 17. there's an underlying current of harmony but its always intense. we argue but we both hold back. Both venus in pisces. what do you think?

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posted July 07, 2011 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsaoule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[B]The second one is my Girlfriend. My Mars is conjunct her NN. I go to her with my Mars and need her help to be more assertive i.e. Mars like.


Her Neptune is conjunct my NN.She comes to me to learn to be more spiritual.[B]


I see things differently. To my opinion, the planet involved brings its specific nature (coloured by the sign in the domain of the house where falls the conjunction) in the relationship to stimulate, and sometimes challenge the other person's NN. Conversely, the NN individual enhances the planet, pushes the person whose planet is involved to focus on- and deepen- the expression/understanding of the planet in their psyche. 
For instance, starcrossedLeo who has Leo and Sun qualities (such as confidence and creativity) already well developped could focus deeper on her natural qualities to reach a new level of creativity at the end of the relationship, while bringing some kind of modele to the guy who lacked    Leo qualities.
Ami Anne, i think you pushed this guy to focus on his wounds, bring thrm to light (must have been painful for him too) while his suffering (which triggered suffering in yourself) helped you go towards your NN in some way.
Ami Anne, you also talk about this girlfriend who i think helped you focus on your Own Mars though ( or because) she displayed such martian qualities. It may be possible that your own way of expressing Mars helped her develop her NN qualities...
Her Neptune conjunct your NN means her Neptune helped you in some way even if Neptune has already a strong influence on your psyche. The sign and house of this conjunction give significant clues about the way the planet teach us. 
Etc.

PS: i am writing from an iphone in holidays ;-)

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Ami Anne
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posted July 07, 2011 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SensibleHeart:
This same nn person that i have, my chiron trines his venus. I know trines are kind of positive and lazy, and it might not exert much influence, but our contact has been kind of turbulent too, filled with a lot of growing pains because we started dating when i was 17. there's an underlying current of harmony but its always intense. we argue but we both hold back. Both venus in pisces. what do you think?

If I EVER see a persons NN on my Chiron I will run ,Baby

If I could begin to tell you the pain I went through with this person.It was like a dripping faucet.
It went on and on and on as Musac in an elevator--pain and pain and pain and pain.

My sense is that the persons planet conjunct your NN with BRING that planet to YOU.

That is my sense from examining my personal charts.
I am drawing my theory from that.

I am open to other people's perspectives and opinions,as always
That is how we learn

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Ami Anne
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posted July 07, 2011 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Sam
Where are you getting this info from? Your own musings, astrological sources?
In this relationship, I had a million warnings from God NOT to get involved.
Everyone see's God differently but for me ,God never wants us to hurt,suffer or be taught lessons in that way.
*I* did not listen and had to suffer because of that is MY understanding of how Divine things worked.
Now, when I hear that warning Voice, I do not precede.
My understanding of the Bible which I believe is that we do not need to make "mistakes" to learn
We could follow God right off the bat and not have to suffer really,really bad consequences.
We all have life's trials but to choose someone where the entire thing would be a fabric of pain is NOT God, to me. I was warned by screaming strobe lights but I would not listen.
So, that being said, different people would see the NN in different spiritual contexts.
That is mine.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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samsaoule
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posted July 07, 2011 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for samsaoule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Ami

I have been practising astrology for more than 15 years. Everything in life is here to teach us something, easy or stressful experiences. It only becomes stressful when we resist.  That's the way i perceive life. I agree God shows us the path and we may not see it or find it too difficult to follow. However, step by step, consciousness finds its way through. This guy might have made you learn to better adjust yourself on your NN path and pain made you realize you were unconscious in some way. We agree such pain should not happen, but i just see pain  as an impersonnal message telling you something in/outside yourself has to be changed. Ultimately, it is your perspective that will change.
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posted July 07, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by samsaoule:
Dear Ami

I have been practising astrology for more than 15 years. Everything in life is here to teach us something, easy or stressful experiences. It only becomes stressful when we resist.  That's the way i perceive life. I agree God shows us the path and we may not see it or find it too difficult to follow. However, step by step, consciousness finds its way through. This guy might have made you learn to better adjust yourself on your NN path and pain made you realize you were unconscious in some way. We agree such pain should not happen, but i just see pain  as an impersonnal message telling you something in/outside yourself has to be changed. Ultimately, it is your perspective that will change.
Best wishes


Yes We can agree to disagree.Best Wishes to you,too!

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted February 14, 2013 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great discussion!

Amy,
what was the rest of the synastry between you and the Chiron guy?

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posted February 14, 2013 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn in Scorpio is conjunct my South node.

Therefore, anyone who has a planet conjunct my North Node has that planet opposite my Saturn.

NN contacts have not been fun for me :-(

This guy I went out with last year had Venus on my NN (and my Saturn opposed his Venus). It ended pretty quickly, and was not a good experience. He totally hates me now.

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KarkaQueen
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posted February 14, 2013 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had my friend's Nessus on my North node and it did not end well. at. all

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posted February 14, 2013 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I had my friend's Nessus on my North node and it did not end well. at. all

What happened? I have that aspect with a new friend, too.

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posted February 14, 2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfairy:
My Saturn in Scorpio is conjunct my South node.

Therefore, anyone who has a planet conjunct my North Node has that planet opposite my Saturn


That sucks. Sounds so karmic. Also, it seems like this aspect is your chance to teach you stability in a relationship, which you mentioned once that i'ts something difficult for you. You only need to find a victim who wont mind your Saturn.

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posted February 14, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
What happened? I have that aspect with a new friend, too.

Well he ended up hating me, going psycho, trying to manipulate me and backstab me, he also had his Nessus on my vertex. The Sun-Venus Venus-DSC didn't even save the friendship I guess. XD But then we also had Mars-Uranus Mars-Neptune Neptune-Venus stuff he felt like he was decieved by me in the end when he was the one lying the whole time

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posted February 14, 2013 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
That sucks. Sounds so karmic. Also, it seems like this aspect is your chance to teach you stability in a relationship, which you mentioned once that i'ts something difficult for you. You only need to find a victim who wont mind your Saturn.


Yes, exactly!

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Moonfish
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posted February 14, 2013 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend's Saturn conjuncts my NN exact, and opposes his Sun-Chiron. Plus my Venus squares his Sun-Chiron, and trines my Moon exact. Seems like things can turn painful, but for who?

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posted February 14, 2013 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne,

His NN is conjunct my Venus (by 1 degree) whilst his Venus is square my NN. I was told that was a double whammy. As far as I can see, I am the one who is more emotionally bound to him, to the point of being obsessed. If Venus denotes beauty, then we both find each other beautiful - he has artistry in his soul! Could you please say how you think these conjunctions might play out.

His planets have other aspects with my NN -
Trine Sun
Sextile Moon
Trine Vertex
Square Mercury

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crabbypatty
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posted February 14, 2013 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay, now I'm going to reveal just how astro-dumb I am, but I gotta ask, I gotta...

on all the charts generated on Astro.com, how in the heck do I recognize my South Node? Is there a symbol that I need to look for, and why is no symbol showing up opposite my North Node symbol? Do I have to add it? If so, what do I click on?

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jjj
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posted February 14, 2013 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My NN is conjunct someone's Chiron (very close orb) and my Chiron is conjunct his Venus/SN (4 degree orb). I dont intend to run haha. But yes, we seem to heal each other's wounds.

Found this and it sounds true to me:

"The older the couple gets, the closer it will bring them in terms of being a part of the same mind, and finding similar solutions. Ultimately, it gives a ripened relationship a dimension of thankfulness, where the Chiron person heals the ways that the North Node person is approaching his/her future": http://www.astroknowlogy.com/questions/chiron-conjunct-north-node-synastry

Thus he with his Chiron conjunct my NN heals the ways I approach my future and I with my Chiron conjunct his SN (-Venus conjunction) heal the ways he approaches his past (also love life past). Sounds very true in my case.

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