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avocadosandwich
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posted June 16, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

I will post my chart if asked but I don't want to overpopulate the boards with my charts! I had a flash of insight into my own personal issues... is there something about a person's chart that would indicate a "search for another identity" or a willingness to have someone else's will and tastes superimposed upon them? I would imagine my Pisces sun makes me particularly malleable, but are there other known configurations that point to someone who tries to "wear" whatever is expected of them by one principal figure?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want post it here with JUST that question and we can just talk about that!

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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avocadosandwich
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posted June 16, 2011 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami Anne (and anyone else who happens to be reading)

OK, so here's my chart... Are there leanings towards being someone else's blank slate? I'm working on a theory about myself and my relationships.

Thanks for any input!


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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darling
Ask your question more clearly ,please.
Ok I re-read it.
Are you saying it is hard for you to have your OWN identity.Is that your question.
Is there anything showing why it is hard for you to have your own identity?

You know what hit me.Do you have your parent's charts.
I think their natal charts next to yours will show something.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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avocadosandwich
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posted June 16, 2011 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I very willing to be whatever someone else wants me to be (until of course I turn around and become "myself" again)?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Is your identity solid or given away to other people .
Is this question?
Also,do you have your parents charts to put up.
Could you put each one as a synastry with you?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am feeling like one or both of your parents planets are squishing your personal planets.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 16, 2011 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will look at your chart and see what I can see until you get your parents charts if you can .

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to mediate on charts and ask questions.

Right off ,I see a few things,You have a water singelton--a Pisces Sun.
Do you feel super sensitive? Do you "crave" water things and people?
IOW,do you feel that you need more water i.e deep feelings, sensitivity to others and situations

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun is exactly Conjunct your MC. I am not sure what that means but it is interesting

You have a packed 7th house so you greatly desire meaningful and committed relationships.

You have a few things which seem relevant to your question that I can see so far.

Your Sun opposes ASC. This would make your outer mannerisms and the "real you/your sense of self feel at odds.
You may feel you wear the outer mask and are juggling the inner you all the time.

IT may feel back and forth and tiring
Does that fit?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 16, 2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you feel super sensitive? Do you "crave" water things and people?
IOW,do you feel that you need more water i.e deep feelings, sensitivity to others and situations

I used to be super-sensitive but it has pretty much been hammered out of me, at least at the surface-level. As for deep feelings, sensitivity to others and situations, I probably have more than is healthy for me! I'm the type who can't turn away a hard-luck story and has trouble not crying if someone around me is suffering emotionally.

I will get posting those charts of my parents...I have to create them first, though!

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posted June 16, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Sun conjunct Moon this seems rare.They are in different signs too which seems more rare.

The conjunction is not that close--7 degrees so this would be easier than if it were super close but yet you will feel it.

This is a great closeness between Sun(ego) and Moon (heart/deepest emotions).
This may make it very hard to pull away and detach from situations inside and outside yourself.

In a practical way, this is how I would express this aspect.
If someone called you a name or insulted you,it would be very hard to pull back and assess.
You would react fast and furious.Does this fit?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 16, 2011 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you crave other people who are high in water or are you attracted to people with different elements?
What signs are most of your boyfriends/female friends?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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avocadosandwich
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posted June 19, 2011 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If someone called you a name or insulted you,it would be very hard to pull back and assess.
You would react fast and furious.Does this fit?

Yes, I'd say that's fair - I would take it to heart, and I'd forgive but I'd never forget. I wonder if something else is connected to this - I find it hard to let go of labels given to me over the years, even though I've been through many changes,and some cancel the others out. They are all various shades of "me."

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posted June 19, 2011 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you crave other people who are high in water or are you attracted to people with different elements?
What signs are most of your boyfriends/female friends?

First boyfriend was An Aquarian, then a Capricorn. Dated an Aries. Nearly married a Libra. Ultimately married a Pisces, and it has been an extremely rough road.

Friends tend to be Aries - I thought it was bizarre how many Aries were in my circle. And also bizarre how many Aries natives would say, "I know what sign you are - Aries!" I wonder through if it is because I tend to reflect whatever I'm with... back to that old identity thing again. I might have had Sagittarians claiming me as one of theirs if I'd been steeped in Sagittarian friends!

I think I tend to avoid really watery people, now that I think on it. Not quite sure why...

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posted June 19, 2011 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for avocadosandwich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
***these have turned out very small. If they are hard to read I will go back and figure out what I did wrong***

Mom and Me:

Dad (estimated birth time, unfortunately) and Me:


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Ami Anne
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posted June 19, 2011 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed all my reading friends

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to move this to Astro 2 since it's more of a general question and not a personal reading exactly. It's also a good learning experience for others to learn and put in their opinion or personal experience.

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posted June 19, 2011 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW
On a fast look, you have SOME synastry with your parents.
I did ,too.
These synastry's answered life questions in black and white that I could have never answered otherwise.
I will study them little by little and ask you questions

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by avocadosandwich:
I used to be super-sensitive but it has pretty much been hammered out of me, at least at the surface-level. As for deep feelings, sensitivity to others and situations, I probably have more than is healthy for me! I'm the type who can't turn away a hard-luck story and has trouble not crying if someone around me is suffering emotionally.

I will get posting those charts of my parents...I have to create them first, though!


OK A Singleton can make the element super strong or feel not enough,I think.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
So, for you,your water is super strong,it seems.
You seem to say you feel very watery if I am hearing you correctly.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow you got so much to look at. I do things in a step by step way so I can get a picture or a feeling so I may not answer your question outright at first but hopefully we will come to it as we progress

You have 2 fascinating aspects I just saw.
You have Chiron conjunct Mercury.You have Venus trine Jupiter.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury conjunct Chiron would indicate pain with your mind somehow.
Do you have any problems such as ADD, learning disorders etc.
Do you find it hard to process info?
How would you see this aspect as playing out.

It is in Aries so your mind would be fast and your speech would be bold ,I think one could say.
What are your thoughts on this aspect?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK THIS is interesting. You have Venus trine Jupiter.
I have to recheck which sign Venus is in.
I love Venus conjunct Jupiter cuz it makes the Venus so big, so loving, so beautiful.

I think the trine would do the same.
I get that feeling from you from our small interaction, here,even!
You seem very loving and giving i.e.Venus-like lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Your Venus is in Taurus, a very nice Venus.
I see you as a very loving person in a genuine way.
I will keep looking at the chart and the aspects.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted June 19, 2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! I think your ascendant might be off a few degrees (25 degrees Virgo), and that your Sun is also in the 7th. I thought that when I was reading your description, before reading your chart. Check out the info on that placement and see if it fits.

Moon and Sun in the 7th would make a great candidate for what you describe

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