posted June 27, 2011 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Anglerfish:
Ami, Your Chiron explain why you don't like psychologists... Mainly as your mother was one.

4th house= Mother/Family
Aquarius= psychology/brains/higher mind

Put the two together.

Like me I have Chiron in Cancer in the 9th
Cancer= Father/Father's family.
9th house= religion (amongst other things, I have Jupiter rx giving me some protection.

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That is interesting, actually

That method would suggest that my partners aren't my main source of sorrow or dislike, but my partners' minds or speech? (Chiron in Gemini). Maybe I could extend it to "others" rather than "partners". I do have a pet peeve about the use of language that others often resort to (txt language, obvious misspellings/wrong grammar use) even though I am quite prone to, especially, grammatical errors myself... I have always been a big supporter of proper use of language though, especially by those who teach it (have had some awful experiences with an English teacher who was convinced that his use of the language was perfect. He did suffer quite a bit by my hand... or should I say words? Well, he shouldn't have said or even insinuated that his use of the English language was perfect )

Anyway, I'm getting the feeling I'm overanalyzing this again. I have noticed though that people have to seriously watch what they say and how they say it with me because I'm very prone to analyzing intonation, positive/negative use of a word, use of synonyms which might indicate certain added feelings to the word etc (even, when a certain literary rule is not followed by someone, I could point that out quite casually )... In return I do watch very closely what I say, but it still gets misinterpreted often

But still, does that have anything to do with Chiron being in 7th house/Gemini?

Oh, did I mention it was also conjunct Moon/Dsc and opposed to Asc/Merc/Uran?

posted June 27, 2011 10:30 AM            

my Chiron is in the Aries-ruled 5th house, in Taurus.

i did not experience "pain" with things that concern children, but i have never been good with them. even as a child myself, i didn't like other children, LOL... i never thought and think i'll have a child. but i'm getting older and thinking MAYBE if i can find a good dad person.

but more importantly, i studied art all my life. i do struggle with what the contemporary art gives and i disagree with how art world is today. so i choose not to make art. but i'm starting to realise that i cannot be anything else but an artist. it's such a dilemma.

posted June 27, 2011 12:39 PM            

Chiron in the 1st house: Chiron here can make you like a knight in shining armor, always ready to fight for the underdog. Usually, while you are doing this, you are neglecting yourself. You could also be a wise councilor (especially in health matters) but you seem to have trouble taking your own advice. A 1st house Chiron can be a gifted teacher, and, of course, you can teach others how to do something better than you can do it yourself. A neat trick to get around this: Give yourself advice as if you were someone else. Then maybe you will take it.

Chiron in the 2nd house: Chiron teaches and gives advise. The 2nd house is money, possessions, and values. You can show other people how to take care of their money better than you take care of your own. In fact, your own finances could be a mess. Sometimes, this placement can make for a miser, but the money collected never brings any pleasure or get rid of the inner fear that there will be no resources.

Most likely, this is because the person has a low sense of self-worth and feels that they don't really deserve any money or possessions. In other cases, they may squander or give away what they have for the same reason. It is important to remember that if there are problems with money or possessions, that these are most likely not the real issue. The sense of self-worth is the key here.

Chiron in the 3rd house: If you don't have any brothers or sisters, you may experience this Chiron placement as a lack, a hole in your life. If you do, then there could be continual problems with at least one sibling.

This is a good placement for a voice coach or speech therapist. It is likely that you will be able to teach others to speak better than you do. This placement tends to increase the chance of communication problems of one sort or another. No, it does not guarantee a speech defect. Instead, there could be problems with making oneself understood. In some cases, this could indicate that one wasn't listened to as a child.

That could trigger a lifelong quest to "make others listen to me." However, no matter how much they do, there is frequently a feeling that "they are still not listening." The problem is that no matter how much they listen to you now, it doesn't get rid of the pain you felt in childhood when they didn't. Mercury/Chiron stress aspects are likely to produce the same result. Recognizing this is a first step to leaving the pain behind.

Chiron in the 4th house: Well, just about everyone had some trouble or other in childhood with their parents. Chiron in the 4th house will just make it a little more noticeable. The home itself would tend to be an issue here.

Perhaps one is so busy outside the home that they cannot spend much time there, or their work forces them to travel and be away frequently. The father is more likely to have been chronically ill, away from home, or emotionally unavailable. Perhaps there could be a "don't feel at home anywhere" attitude. Chiron in the 4th house might work out in other ways as well. This placement could conceivably show a person who can help everyone else with their home, while their own place is a wreck.

Chiron in the 5th house: If you need romantic advice, go to someone who has Chiron in the 5th house. Please don't ask them about their own love life, as that would embarrass them. You can also go to people who have this placement for advise on children, sports and games, gambling, and the stock market. Realistically, one does have to look at the rest of the chart because, after all, about one out of twelve people have this Chiron. And you wouldn't, of course, ask a five-year old who had it for advise. But this placement is generally good for counseling in those areas.

Just remember to do as they say, but don't do as they do. Chiron in the 5th house can make for folks who are great coaches, helping players to perform better than they themselves could. It could also show people who are great with kids, but either have chronic troubles with their own, or have none of their own. This can be an indicator that you can train your children to be happier and more successful than you ever could. Watch out though.

If Chiron is afflicted, you will drive your kids to succeed in the areas that you would have liked to succeed in but that they don't really like at all. The most frustrating one is the great lover who can always satisfy their partner better than they themselves could be satisfied.

Chiron in the 6th house: You can always help (or teach) co-workers do the job better than you can do it. Perhaps you are a whiz at helping everyone else get healthy (the 6th house rules health) while you still smoke and eat junk food. Learn to take care of yourself every now and then. Sometimes it works out in the opposite fashion. Someone with a 6th house Chiron might demand that everyone else serve them, and they are usually never satisfied. Of course, obviously, this causes problems too. And oh yes, let us not forget the tendency toward eating disorders. This can also manifest as strange likes and dislikes in the food department.

Chiron in the 7th house: This one might spend all of their time taking care of a partner who has some debility. It is also someone who gives great advise on marriage, while their own marriage is on the rocks (or they might not even be married). This can work for business partnerships as well. You can take great care of a partner and teach them how to do the business better than you ever could. Watch out that they don't dump you as soon as they learn all that they can from you.

Chiron in the 8th house: What a great sex therapist you can be. A more likely scenario is that you have the ability to bring out the sexual best in a romantic partner, while giving yourself the short end of the stick (no pun intended). But the 8th house rules more than sex. You could also get stuck with taking care of partnership resources because "you're so good at it," or, conversely, keep getting partners who want to "take care" of it and do you out of your fair share.

Perhaps you become too dependent on money from others for support, or too much of what you earn goes to support others. You might tend to accept other people's values (your family, group or society) too readily. One other thing. The myth of Chiron can actually come alive with this placement. You could have a talent for healing or rehabilitating others, but not yourself.

Chiron in the 9th house: Perfect for a travel agent who sends everyone else on fantastic trips while they are stuck in the office doing the booking, or a publisher or writing teacher who gets everyone else's books before the public, while secretly longing to write and publish their own.

Parents with this placement of Chiron frequently tend to push their children to pursue the higher education that they themselves never had a chance to get. Negatively, this could mean forcing them into studying what the parents wished that they had studied, and not what the kids really want. There could also be jealousy here (Saturn) and the parents could actually take steps to deprive their children of higher education.

The 9th house also rules religion. Sometimes this leads to thinking that the fanatic pursuit of some religious doctrine will cure all of one's inner wounds. This could also manifest as obsessive travel or study.

Chiron in the 10th house: Career and public prestige are the battlegrounds with this placement of Chiron. Yes, this is a great placement for running an organization in the medical or healing field, but frequently, no matter what the career, someone with a 10th house Chiron will feel that they are taking care of everybody and everything else except themselves. As usual, there will frequently be an uncanny ability to help everyone else succeed better than they could ever have done themselves.

It could also work out the other way. There may be a total rejection of any sort of ambition or responsibility, most likely due to fear of failure. Perhaps the parents pushed you too hard to succeed and really got on your case when you slipped up (or even when you didn't).

The other side of the coin is that some parents don't want their children to succeed and always put them down. You can get either reaction to an upbringing of that nature: a compulsive need to achieve or a rejection of any success or responsibility.

Chiron in the 11th house: The problem areas are friends, hopes, and wishes. On the one hand, there could be difficulty having or holding on to friends, or a fear of crowds or groups. On the other hand, one may compulsively seek out friends (or join groups, especially groups that want to change society) in order to compensate for inner fears of loneliness.

You might get more than your share of "friends" who take advantage and drain you. More often, you give to friends whether they want it or not because this gives you a feeling of control (Saturn). But you could be the drainer here, always asking things of friends in order to compensate for a psychological neediness that never seems to be filled.

posted June 27, 2011 02:41 PM            

Briefly, I don't have close friends (anymore). I meet a lot of people but none of then actually stays. Though I think it's due to my mars in 3th that makes then come and go.. At elementary school I was rejected my my classmates for an unknown reason and because of that I sometimes am concerned about my position in groups (I don't want to be the last in the hierarchy). However I had close circle of friends, just not on the same class or even in the same school.

posted June 30, 2011 05:46 AM            

These descriptions fit:

Chiron in the First House
Chiron is associated with the emotional wounds we receive early on in our lives. The sign Chiron is in will dominate but the house placing will show in which area the personality is motivated and into which they will put their efforts. In the first house, it may indicate a journey of self-discovery. Possibly, there were restrictions in early childhood that will have had the effect on you of either retreating into yourself or having to fight to be noticed. There will be a need to find personal meaning in existence. Some will do this by being overly aggressive, others by withdrawing. Having a job or interest that is really enjoyed will give a positive direction to your life.

Chiron in the 1st house: Chiron here can make you like a knight in shining armor, always ready to fight for the underdog. Usually, while you are doing this, you are neglecting yourself. You could also be a wise councilor (especially in health matters) but you seem to have trouble taking your own advice. A 1st house Chiron can be a gifted teacher, and, of course, you can teach others how to do something better than you can do it yourself. A neat trick to get around this: Give yourself advice as if you were someone else. Then maybe you will take it.

posted July 01, 2011 01:56 AM            

for many years (the majority of my 20's), i wasn't much interested in having a boyfriend and sometimes even friends. i felt spooked by my parents' relationship, particularly my father and how he treated my mother. i had no time for men and for a very long time i believed that any man that i went out with would end up like my father. yeah pretty crappy actually hasn't done me any favours whatsoever..

posted July 01, 2011 04:11 AM            

Chiron in the second.
It doesn't really effect money or self esteem for me
(I am a work in progress)
but there have been times in my life where I couldn't forgive myself.
I'm very stubborn here and I know it but I honestly don't believe I deserved to be forgiven so I pay penance and sooner or later I come to terms with it.
My issues are usually a reflection of some way in which I don't feel that I have measured up to my own standards, flawed as they are
It's a road block, what can I say?

posted July 01, 2011 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
Mine is in the 10th -career. I don't really feel it there , I feel it more in the 7th to be quite frank.

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posted July 01, 2011 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
my chiron in Aries is in 11. i dont seem to feel sorry about things related to friends. however, i read somewhere that chiron in 11 meant that you fail to stand up as unique in the crowd and they give the example of Beckham, who has the same placement.

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I have the same but Chiron is conjunct my Sun, opposite Uranus and square my mars. The community that I live in is very depressing and my neighbors are quite hostile and angry. They do not take nicely to newcomers invading what is their home.

Other people's kids seems to be spawns of satan and the adults here really support bullying in my neighborhood. The bully children go around with a mean look in their eyes and look like they are about ready to riot. Maybe cause one of the kid's mother's is a bully herself and spreads vicious gossips around. Nothing will happen though because she is the queen of the social circle and that will never change.

In my social circles, I feel non existent and I never visit with people because they are too busy to do anything. I could go away for a year and I would not have one single message on my machine when I got back. I would not have a single email too.

To be honest on this website I feel my chiron quite well and THIS IS WHY i don't like to come often and I am terribly hesitant to post anything - I think what difference does it make. Most people will usually pass up and my posts and start chats with others. Maybe I am better off being out in the real world and not online.....honestly speaking here.

This thread and some of the posts here have made sense to me and have struck a chord. I can honestly look at myself and intuitively know when things don't stack up.