posted July 03, 2011 01:15 AM            

he pretty much invented horary (although, i think that might be false information as well) i just know he's the most well known lol :P

posted July 03, 2011 01:25 AM            

Certainly! I don't have any books to recommend (yet - I'll dig in my collection since I may have downloaded them) but learned what I did mostly from the Internet & through practice, checking results with a dear friend who had started before me and helped me along. She was really the driving force who helped me learn..

hmm beat me to adding the Skyscript links - those are really good! Here are some of mine:

Horary Tutorial by 'ArianStar'

Gilbert Navarro's Rules of Horary

Aquamoonlight - Horary Astrology

Renaissance Astrology - Horary

Perhaps a good way to learn would be through sample charts we post and analyze.. best way to internalize & integrate the information. I suggest sample charts we find on the Internet - so we keep it impartial and can check the results.

posted July 03, 2011 10:00 AM            

I am learning about transition of light and all the other wonderful stuff that goes with interpreting the charts. You need to be so precise and make sure you get your significators right. Sometimes it's not so clear.

posted July 05, 2011 12:10 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
I could be wrong (and I dont want to spread falsifications around) but I am think that when you ask a question say, about your brother's job, you look to the third house for your brother's significator and then count 10 houses from that to find the significator for his job (i.e. this would be twelvth house). Can anyone please confirm this??

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That's how I would understand it... that you would start with the 3rd house, then count 10 houses for his employer, also looking at 6th house?

posted July 06, 2011 12:06 PM            

You can turn the chart for pretty much anyone you ask about, not necessarily just the person you are in a relationship with, "the quesited", but also your parents, siblings, business partners, etc., etc.

posted July 07, 2011 10:36 AM            

I also understood it that you should be able to read the chart without turning it, but that using turning the chart technique just validates or confirms what is in the chart in the first place.

posted July 07, 2011 03:46 PM            

Few questions though: if YOU ask a question about the love life or relationship of ANOTHER... Is that other 7th house, and is their relationship then represented by the 1st house, but doesn't that also represent you then?

And what is the influence of planets themselves in the chart? Let's say that the person asked about has Saturn as his or her ruler, does that flavour their stance on the question asked?

And... and... Oh, never mind. If I start asking questions now, I won't stop!

posted July 07, 2011 03:50 PM            

So many questions!

posted July 07, 2011 03:53 PM            

Sun- Males, officials and authority figures, health, important people, dominant persons, power, men 35-45 years.

Moon- Women, mother figure, lost objects, the public, emotions, change, liquids, outlaws and fugitives, short trips, water and the sea.

Mercury- communication, transportation, messages and messengers, buying or selling, traveling, books reading, or writing, young people, students, and tricksters,

Venus- young women, money, gifts, pleasures, harmony and balance, socializing and its affairs, persons resources, the arts, goods that are moveable

Mars- war and arguments, energy, aggression, weaponry, surgery and surgeons, accidents, fires, dangerous activities, men ages 25-35 years.

Jupiter- foreigners, long distance travel, higher education, expansion, horses in general, luck, prophecy, gambling and success, judges, middle aged men.

Saturn- the father, restrictions, karma and death, the elderly, any kind of obstacle or limitation, loneliness and solitary people, debts and poverty, time, and real estate.

Uranus- fated events, sudden events, strikes, accidents and breaking things, divorce and separation, surprising occurrences, electronics, and metaphysical ideas.

Neptune- deception and confusion, foggy senses, clarity cloudy, self undoing, illusions, delusions, the mystical, drugs and alcohol and creative writing like poetry.

Pluto- death, transitions, transformation of anything, reincarnation and rebirth, powerful forces for good or evil, sexual issues, and the underworld of society.

Part of fortune- money, possessions, luck in general, and lost objects.

Nodes- North is positive in nature, resembling those of Venus, and Jupiter.
While South is negative and detriment in nature, resembling those of Mars and Saturn.

If the degrees in the nodes are the same as another planet or cusp of a house, it may mean its fated and unfortunate.

The Signs of The Zodiac in Horary

Aries: "Mars" New beginnings and the pioneer, starting things, the will used, the person. Initialization of anything launched.

Taurus: "Venus" Persistence that is fixed and determined, practical issues, and a sense of safety.

Gemini: "Mercury" Communications taking place, traveling, the environment, vehicles, computers and its contents, media issues, and socializing.

Cancer: "Moon" The home and domestic issues, protection for safety, security minded, emotions, memory.

Leo: "Sun" Pride in ones self, loyal to situation, ruling others, kingly like notions, acting and the theater, generosity, wishing for admiration.

Virgo: "Mercury" Health conscious, and purity minded, cleanliness, detailed and perfectionist, worried, service oriented, and practical.

Libra: "Venus" Justice minded, balance in situations, indecision in matter, harmony and marriage, partnerships, diplomacy, and also lazy at times.

Scorpio: "Mars", "Pluto" Death issues, regeneration of self, and others, transformation in life, magnetic, healing energy, research, and much secrecy, secrets.

Sagittarius: "Jupiter" Exploration and the people that participate, travelers overseas, higher consciousness, the law and church, ceremonies, weddings, outdoor events.

Capricorn: "Saturn" Persons ambitions, being patient, practicality, career focus, power driven, responsibilities, climbing to ambitions, organizing things.

Aquarius: "Saturn, Uranus" Freedom and its search, detached emotionally, scientific, humanitarian issues, modern and independent.

Pisces: "Jupiter, Neptune" Sacrificial, charity issues, welfare of others, spirituality, confused, bound, misinformation, and deceit, suffering of self or others, victims, the past, and karma, end of cycles in life.
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/horary/

posted July 09, 2011 07:42 PM            

When the 1st house of the querent has an intercepted sign, do both rulers count as the significators?

I just asked a question about why a certain musician's music fascinates me so much because at this stage it has me puzzled. The 1st house is in Aries and has Taurus intercepted, but the 7th house (which I assume would represent the musician - not sure what house should represent his music... HIS 5th? It is after all a creative outlet of his, a creation. Or his 10th? He does make money and aquires fame with it) is ruler then by Libra and Scorpio, essentially giving the same significators for the both of us.

Otherwise we'd have Mars and Venus unaspected which makes a lot of sense too because he doesn't know of my existence and we are not directly connected, only through his music.

This prompts another question: what house system is best used? At the moment I'm using Polich-Page, but I believe there's a specific house system which is preferred for drawing horary charts? But could any house system be used?

I'm still just as confused as to why I'm so fascinated by the guy's music though. the horary isn't clearing things up for me nothing links both significators indirectly, except for the NNode, which doesn't rule any sign let alone house in horary I believe?

Well, there is Saturn which rules the MC and the 11th house so maybe I was right about the 5th house from the 7th house representing the creative produce of the 7th house person but Saturn is in the 6th house. Interestingly, this horary has the musician's significator conjunct the 10th house from the 7th house (otherwise known as the 4th house) Jupiter is in the 1st house and the Moon is in the 7th house. I'm not going further into it, it just confuses me too much

Still none the wiser.

posted July 11, 2011 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Ok, so they say Saturn in the 7th makes a chart unreadable, but what does Saturn in the 7th in a TURNED chart mean?

Especially if the Moon is applying a conjunction to Saturn in the 7th house in Libra?

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PS,

Saturn in the 7th of the horary chart is said to make the chart unreadable.. but many modern horary readers including myself do not often put stock in this rule.

posted July 11, 2011 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
I've so much to learn about horaries yet...

Few questions though: if YOU ask a question about the love life or relationship of ANOTHER... Is that other 7th house, and is their relationship then represented by the 1st house, but doesn't that also represent you then?

And what is the influence of planets themselves in the chart? Let's say that the person asked about has Saturn as his or her ruler, does that flavour their stance on the question asked?

And... and... Oh, never mind. If I start asking questions now, I won't stop!

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Aya,

If you're asking about relationship matters, the 7th house signifies a person you share a significant relationship with, and the 5th house signifies a more casual fling. So if you are asking about a casual love interest of the one you are seriously involved with, that person would be signified by the 5th house significator.