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Moonfish
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posted July 13, 2011 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 14, 2011 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never have but I have heard people talk about the opposition.It makes for a coldness to the love.
I don't think I could take it myself cuz my Venus is unaspected but maybe other people could .
Am interested in people's experience with it.

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posted July 16, 2011 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This article calls it the Romeo and Juliet Aspect http://blog.virgovault.com/2011/02/12/synastry-natal-the-romeo-juliet-aspect-%E2%80%93-venus-square-saturn-in-love-%E2%80%93-problem-solution/#axzz1SHb0rWOh

Here's another link that talks about it as well http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10125

Hope those help a little bit

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posted July 16, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JO JO

thanks for the links. read them all and i cannot help but concluding saying that this is impossible love. romeo and juliet lol

I have this aspect with someone (me venus) he saturn. he has the aspect natally and my venus triggers his aspect. anyway, i can see him not wanting to get involved although i feel there is something. i almost know there is attraction, but he backs up...so i just gave up. but it is funny, when i give up, he sometimes do something that makes me wonder "should I give up?"

but he can keep me like that forever. i see a scolding role as well.

my advice to anyone with this aspect. get real, it wont happen. this is to myself, of course lol..but there is some pain on it. you know it could, but i doesnt...bummer!!!

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posted July 16, 2011 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
i almost know there is attraction, but he backs up...so i just gave up. but it is funny, when i give up, he sometimes do something that makes me wonder "should I give up?"

but he can keep me like that forever. i see a scolding role as well.

my advice to anyone with this aspect. get real, it wont happen. this is to myself, of course lol..but there is some pain on it. you know it could, but i doesnt...bummer!!!


That same thing has happened to me, except I was doing what the guy in your life is doing & We had Saturn and Venus in the same signs (Aries Saturn, Gemini Venus). I'd pretend I wasn't interested but as soon as he showed signs of giving up, I'd give him hints that I WAS interested. It kept going for 6 months until he finally gave up and stopped talking to me. Never went out, but it definitely felt like a break up.

My guess is that he likes the chase, then again not everyone's the same so I might be wrong.

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posted July 16, 2011 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 16, 2011 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I'm the Saturn person and he's the venus. I do feel lke I want to back away from his affection only because i'm insecure. We have a lot of saturn aspects in our chart:


but despite all his saturn aspects on my planets I don't feel like he's pulling away or hiding his affection for me. at least not yet.


My Venus is SEXTILE his Saturn

I'm the Venus, he's the saturn
He's the venus you're the saturn
And I acted the same way he's acting now.. interesting


Also, look at what I found;

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Venus-Saturn interaspects:
When challenging, these interaspects can be difficult to deal with, but effort put forth to understand the interplays will result in enormous increases in understanding of the partners both individually and as a couple. There is often a strong need to be with each other. With the troublesome aspects (opposition and square), the sexual relationship may start out just fine, but later can become unpredictable, stunted, or sporadic. Spontaneity is lost, and this is generally due to power struggles in the day-to-day life of the couple. The Venus person often feels oppressed and restricted by the Saturn person. In fact, Venus may feel criticized and nagged, and Saturn may feel an unhealthy need to control and restrict the Venus native. This general conflict can lead to problems in the bedroom. With the sextile and trine, however, there is a steady and stable quality to the love and affection for each other, but some reserve or self-consciousness regarding the expression of feelings, romantic desires, and sexuality is present nevertheless.

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posted July 16, 2011 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nicole401:

Also, look at what I found;
[QUOTE]Venus-Saturn interaspects:
When challenging, these interaspects can be difficult to deal with, but effort put forth to understand the interplays will result in enormous increases in understanding of the partners both individually and as a couple. There is often a strong need to be with each other. With the troublesome aspects (opposition and square), the sexual relationship may start out just fine, but later can become unpredictable, stunted, or sporadic. Spontaneity is lost, and this is generally due to power struggles in the day-to-day life of the couple. The Venus person often feels oppressed and restricted by the Saturn person. In fact, Venus may feel criticized and nagged, and Saturn may feel an unhealthy need to control and restrict the Venus native. This general conflict can lead to problems in the bedroom. With the sextile and trine, however, there is a steady and stable quality to the love and affection for each other, but some reserve or self-consciousness regarding the expression of feelings, romantic desires, and sexuality is present nevertheless.


Interesting, I don't feel the need to control him but it is unpredictable on my behave. One moment I want to give him my all and the next I feel like I'm not good enough for him and want to push away.

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posted July 16, 2011 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Interesting, I don't feel the need to control him but it is unpredictable on my behave. One moment I want to give him my all and the next I feel like I'm not good enough for him and want to push away.

Same way the guy I was "with" (not really but tecnically) felt, He wanted to be with me, but at times he'd tell me i would be much better off with someone else since he felt he wasn't good enough for me.

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http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_saturn_aspects.html

Venus in hard aspect (square, opposition, semi-square, or sesquiquadrate) to other person's Saturn

Although this relationship may begin with a strong feeling of comfort and compatibility, over time, some very challenging dynamics are likely to surface. The Saturn person, fearing the Venus person's withdrawal of affection, loyalty, or respect, can easily become critical or demanding of the Venus person. In response to Saturn's critical demeanor, Venus may withhold affection. A vicious circle can quickly occur. The Venus person could begin to view the Saturn person as unsympathetic, and the Saturn person could come to view the Venus person as childish and undisciplined. Care should be taken to avoid getting into this negative cycle. It will be important for you to maintain an adequate social life, as the tendency with this interchart aspect is to appease one another's jealous nature by cutting oneself off from hobbies, social activities, and pleasures outside of the relationship. You may be critical of one another's tastes and hobbies, but at the root of this is some form of jealousy over the attention that you give to outside interests. Commitment and loyalty to one another will be vital, but also the source of some friction.



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posted July 16, 2011 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nicole401:
That same thing has happened to me, except I was doing what the guy in your life is doing & We had Saturn and Venus in the same signs (Aries Saturn, Gemini Venus). I'd pretend I wasn't interested but as soon as he showed signs of giving up, I'd give him hints that I WAS interested. It kept going for 6 months until he finally gave up and stopped talking to me. Never went out, but it definitely felt like a break up.

My guess is that he likes the chase, then again not everyone's the same so I might be wrong.


That is interesting Nicole. specially if we think a sun scorpio moon piscis man tend to be receptive rather than active in the chase. but i have started looking somewhere and as you did with the poor guy, he sends sign of interest as to keep me on the loop, but i am getting tired of this stupid game. I dont have patience. it seems this aspect is for people with patience, because it is amost doomed to not happen.

but you somehow confirm my suspicios. in your case, what deters you of acting on the attraction. were you attracted to him?

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posted July 16, 2011 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I'm the Saturn person and he's the venus. I do feel lke I want to back away from his affection only because i'm insecure. We have a lot of saturn aspects in our chart:

his Saturn is in my 7H
his Saturn semi-squares my Sun
his Saturn inconjuncts my Moon
his Saturn semi-sextiles my Jupiter
his Saturn squares my Uranus, Neptune, & NN
my Saturn squares his Venus
my Saturn opposites his North node

but despite all his saturn aspects on my planets I don't feel like he's pulling away or hiding his affection for me. at least not yet.


that is what i read. the saturn person is fearful and backs up. why so much fear my goodness!!!! there is nothing worst in earth that not allowing yourself the possibility to experience love, nobody how much it hurts. at the end of the day, life is to be lived and love is the utmost expression of life in my cancerian opinion.

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posted July 16, 2011 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
I'm the Saturn person and he's the venus. I do feel lke I want to back away from his affection only because i'm insecure. We have a lot of saturn aspects in our chart:

his Saturn is in my 7H
his Saturn semi-squares my Sun
his Saturn inconjuncts my Moon
his Saturn semi-sextiles my Jupiter
his Saturn squares my Uranus, Neptune, & NN
my Saturn squares his Venus
my Saturn opposites his North node

but despite all his saturn aspects on my planets I don't feel like he's pulling away or hiding his affection for me. at least not yet.


but remember that in your case, you are the saturn as well, it is a double whamy thing.

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posted July 16, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting, I don't feel the need to control him but it is unpredictable on my behave. One moment I want to give him my all and the next I feel like I'm not good enough for him and want to push away.

it is interesting to look at the perspective of the saturn person, because that is what i suspect the saturn person is thinking but i cannot read his mind. i am the venus and i have no fear. i dont have any saturn aspect in my natal and when i like somebody i want to experience the relationship.

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posted July 16, 2011 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
That is interesting Nicole. specially if we think a sun scorpio moon piscis man tend to be receptive rather than active in the chase. but i have started looking somewhere and as you did with the poor guy, he sends sign of interest as to keep me on the loop, but i am getting tired of this stupid game. I dont have patience. it seems this aspect is for people with patience, because it is amost doomed to not happen.

but you somehow confirm my suspicios. in your case, what deters you of acting on the attraction. were you attracted to him?


I actually was, but wasn't at the same time. It's complicated, there were lots of reasons why I didn't date him, first of all I wasn't over my ex, and I'm the type of person that likes getting over an ex before jumping into another relationship. Second, he was/is depressed, & I didn't want to date him just because I felt bad for him and wanted to "save" him (Venus Trine Neptune acting here).

I regret never dating him though, to be honest. Guess I thought he'd be chasing me for the rest of my life..

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posted July 16, 2011 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
it is interesting to look at the perspective of the saturn person, because that is what i suspect the saturn person is thinking but i cannot read his mind. i am the venus and i have no fear. i dont have any saturn aspect in my natal and when i like somebody i want to experience the relationship.

I have a few minor aspects of saturn in my chart, but the only harsh one is mercury semsquare saturn. My venus aspects on the other hand are all challenging.
Also i'm a Scorpio w/ Pisces moon

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posted July 16, 2011 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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that is what i read. the saturn person is fearful and backs up. why so much fear my goodness!!!! there is nothing worst in earth that not allowing yourself the possibility to experience love, nobody how much it hurts. at the end of the day, life is to be lived and love is the utmost expression of life in my cancerian opinion.

I agree, but idk that's a good question

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posted July 16, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nicole401:
I actually was, but wasn't at the same time. It's complicated, there were lots of reasons why I didn't date him, first of all I wasn't over my ex, and I'm the type of person that likes getting over an ex before jumping into another relationship. Second, he was/is depressed, & I didn't want to date him just because I felt bad for him and wanted to "save" him (Venus Trine Neptune acting here).

I regret never dating him though, to be honest. Guess I thought he'd be chasing me for the rest of my life..


LOL nicole....why you did not chase him instead? lol

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posted July 16, 2011 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
I have a few minor aspects of saturn in my chart, but the only harsh one is mercury semsquare saturn. My venus aspects on the other hand are all challenging.
Also i'm a Scorpio w/ Pisces moon

Moonfish, i think is the scorpio sun/moon piscis the problem... what a drama!!! lol

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posted July 16, 2011 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL nicole....why you did not chase him instead? lol

Because by the time I started to chase him, it was already too late. He distanced himself from me when he started seeing another girl (without me knowing, I found out a week later he had started seeing her), and he stopped talking to me. I tried to talk to him but all he would say are things like "no, yes, maybe, i don't know, okay". Short answers basically. After that i stopped trying and well yeah..

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posted July 16, 2011 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moonfish, i think is the scorpio sun/moon piscis the problem... what a drama!!! lol

i think so too XD you'd think having Sun conjunct Mars would be a confidence booster, but no luck ^^

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posted July 16, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i think so too XD you'd think having Sun conjunct Mars would be a confidence booster, but no luck ^^

You have Sun conjunct Mars too?

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posted July 16, 2011 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You have Sun conjunct Mars too?

yes ma'am
why do you have it?

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I had an inconjunct with my ex - our venuses were conjunct(cap)and inconjunct his saturn (gem), He had this venus saturn inconjunct in his natal then.

I was all sweet and sugar nice, but he was hard and even cruel. Sadistic streak to him. I've wondered how to place attribution to a lot of his behaviours. This cruelty could've been anything I guess, for instance, his pluto also squared my venus.

Anyone actually HAD a relationship with this venus saturn square?

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posted July 16, 2011 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yes ma'am
why do you have it?

I do, both in Aries. & my self-esteem isn't actually that great, although I do portray it as if it were the best.

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posted July 16, 2011 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do, both in Aries. & my self-esteem isn't actually that great, although I do portray it as if it were the best.

Interesting, sometimes i think that way too lol. Maybe my problem is I have a lot of squares to my moon, including dejarina. I went through some emotional abuse through school so i'd probably have a lot confidence if it weren't for that x.x idk.

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