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Randall
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posted July 16, 2011 12:57 PM
  
What (if anything) would indicate the unlikelihood of marriage?------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 01:01 PM
What does the ruler of your 7th house do Randall?
Please list all aspects ------------------
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Randall
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posted July 16, 2011 01:11 PM
What should someone be looking for?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 16, 2011 01:12 PM
I'm speaking more in general--not necessarily specific to me.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 01:22 PM
LOL
Well I am not that good but You would look at the ruler of the 7th house. What happens to that ruler--aspect wise is what will indicate what happens to marriage and committed partnership in the case of the 7th.
For an easy example,if that ruler squares Uranus,there could be ups and downs with abrupt beginnings and endings in marriages/partnerships.
Anyone correct me if I am wrong
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Coffee
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posted July 16, 2011 01:52 PM
I say 6th and 7th rulers in aspect to each other natally.IP: Logged |
cooljen
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posted July 16, 2011 01:55 PM
Why the 6th and 7th in aspect? What does the 6th house have to do with that?Please explain IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted July 16, 2011 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
I say 6th and 7th rulers in aspect to each other natally.
opposition means no marriage?? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 16, 2011 02:01 PM
Can relationships be separated from marriage? I mean, what if the person has successful long-term relationships? ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 02:03 PM
YES what does the 6th have to do with it?------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Moonfish
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posted July 16, 2011 02:23 PM
I think if there are (harsh/no) aspects involving the marriage asteroids:Juno
Zeus 5731
Hera (wife of Zeus) 103
Groom 5129
Briede (bride) 19029
Boda 1487
Penelope (a faithful wife) 201
Frigga (Juno's counter-part) 77 IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted July 16, 2011 02:27 PM
The 6th is the stage before a marriage (7th) so a aspect with both these shows that the marriage never gets going. Just like a virgin would show as 7th and 8th house ruler aspects.IP: Logged |
lunatic
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posted July 16, 2011 02:51 PM
Sorry guys, can I ask something irrelevant? The ruler of my 7th house is Sun, her ruler of the 7th is Saturn and we have these two "planets" square in Synastry.
Does that mean no marriage for us?
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Moonfish
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posted July 16, 2011 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by lunatic:
Sorry guys, can I ask something irrelevant? The ruler of my 7th house is Sun, her ruler of the 7th is Saturn and we have these two "planets" square in Synastry.
Does that mean no marriage for us?
Saturn gives relationships "glue". Whether there harsh or harmonious, couples need Saturn aspects to keep the relationship together. Some people claim that astrologers did a study and over 80% of long-lasting relationships had at least one strong Saturn with a [square] in there Synastry. Now if it were involving Uranus that might be a different story. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted July 16, 2011 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
LOL
Well I am not that good but You would look at the ruler of the 7th house. What happens to that ruler--aspect wise is what will indicate what happens to marriage and committed partnership in the case of the 7th.
I agree with Ami. I would add the location of the ruler. in which house. for instance my 7th house ruler is in 2nd and i tend to partner with men with some financial stability. 7house ruler, planets in seventh. sign of the ruler of the 7h. location of the ruler. example: my 7th in scorpio. pluto in 5th, i cant marry without love, but mars is also ruler is in 2, couldnt marry without love, but without money either. neputne in 7th. need people with certain neptunian quality. For an easy example,if that ruler squares Uranus,there could be ups and downs with abrupt beginnings and endings in marriages/partnerships.
Anyone correct me if I am wrong
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nordicsoul
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posted July 16, 2011 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
LOL
Well I am not that good but You would look at the ruler of the 7th house. What happens to that ruler--aspect wise is what will indicate what happens to marriage and committed partnership in the case of the 7th.Anyone correct me if I am wrong
I agree with Ami. I would add the location of the ruler. in which house. for instance my 7th house ruler is in 2nd and i tend to partner with men with some financial stability. 7house ruler, planets in seventh. sign of the ruler of the 7h. location of the ruler. example: my 7th in scorpio. pluto in 5th, i cant marry without love, but mars is also ruler is in 2, couldnt marry without love, but without money either. neputne in 7th. need people with certain neptunian quality. For an easy example,if that ruler squares Uranus,there could be ups and downs with abrupt beginnings and endings in marriages/partnerships. my 7h in scorpio ruler in virgo (pluto)/cancer (mars) this rule does not apply to me, but i need emotional nurturing. i married a very protective man. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 16, 2011 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
The 6th is the stage before a marriage (7th) so a aspect with both these shows that the marriage never gets going. Just like a virgin would show as 7th and 8th house ruler aspects.
i almost have that. aries 6th, ruler mars is in 1st. taurus 7th, ruler venus is in 7th. they're not in opposition tho. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted July 16, 2011 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
I say 6th and 7th rulers in aspect to each other natally.
coffee why 6th IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted July 16, 2011 03:17 PM
Nordic. quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
The 6th is the stage before a marriage (7th) so a aspect with both these shows that the marriage never gets going. Just like a virgin would show as 7th and 8th house ruler aspects.
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nordicsoul
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posted July 16, 2011 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
I say 6th and 7th rulers in aspect to each other natally.
I have scorpio in 7th. pluto dont aspect venus (ruler of 6H) if I use classical rulers, mars (ruler of 7H) conjunct venus (ruler of 6h) I married and divorced, but i dont know how our marriage resemble mars-venus conjunction. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted July 16, 2011 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Can relationships be separated from marriage? I mean, what if the person has successful long-term relationships?
I guess that 7th has to do with public agreements IP: Logged |
etherealenlightenment
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posted July 16, 2011 03:50 PM
 ... I have my 6th and 7th house rulers (Uranus and Neptune) conjunct eachother!!! Is that an aspect that would prevent it from happening?IP: Logged |
AriesSun
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posted July 16, 2011 04:50 PM
I've my 7th house ruler and 6th house ruler in conjunction with each others in 1st house when mine 7th house ruler is in pisces and doing much of aspects to other planets like neptune, uranus, moon, pluto, saturn..and when there is semi-square to saturn it makes me dreaming about long-lasting relationship but when there is also uranus it feels like there is no way that i could be in classical relationship because of mine need of air and space i quickly looked up some charts and i noticed uranus having aspect to 7th house ruler with people who don't actually dream about getting marriage and having children and some of them even don't like kids- there is also showing hard aspect between moon and 7th house ruler i think that getting marriage is unnecessary and i myself prefer adopt a child than having actually "own" child IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 16, 2011 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Can relationships be separated from marriage? I mean, what if the person has successful long-term relationships?
Modern western society sees long term cohabitation as basically a marriage without the legal xyz attached. Maybe that is the confusion.
Astrology needs to be interpreted for the time and place that the individual finds themselves. We can't apply our standards to those of 200 yrs ago or even now (being from the west) to a vastly diff culture (not western) and read the chart the same, simple because society was/is not the same, so the reading of the chart has to reflect the changing times and different values that the culture holds.
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Lonake
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posted July 16, 2011 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by lunatic:
Sorry guys, can I ask something irrelevant? The ruler of my 7th house is Sun, her ruler of the 7th is Saturn and we have these two "planets" square in Synastry.
Does that mean no marriage for us?
Your methods of relating will likely be tense when you have 'long term association' thoughts in your mind, there could be issues of one feeling that the other is somewhat of a dictator or turns the relationship into some bizarre parent/child dynamic that helps no one. With the Sun you may be the one feeling squelched in all this, like you just wanna shine and be you, and her Saturn may feel insecure in all this thinking if you shine too much or act out too much on your own that there would be a chance of losing you. This is sort of the worst case scenario I'm painting. It could be good, too, you can choose to work out the differences and anxieties. IP: Logged |
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