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Topic: i want out of this relationship =/
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aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Omg, this is sounding awful Aqua  I see he is quite a bit older than you - this is not on! I see your pluto is inconjunct his moon; you both are challenging eachother's moons. However, I don't understand what it's getting to the hitting stage - what's up? I will continue looking..
well the hitting i think hes done it in other relationships not think he has ..and yes hes older then me this is why im trying to get out i have no damn future with this dude IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:01 AM
I don't like what's going on here. I don't think you should be asking that question Astroman.
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aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: aquaqueen I like you, you are honest and down to earth. Do you have facebook?
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AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: I don't like what's going on here. I don't think you should be asking that question Astroman.
why not? Shes expressing the reality of her situation. She is getting out the feelings and emotions that come with the abuse. I think it will help her, she understands that she needs to get out of this relationship. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquarqueen: well the hitting i think hes done it in other relationships not think he has ..and yes hes older then me this is why im trying to get out i have no damn future with this dude
More than that dear, he will ruin you psychologically as well - the trauma often comes after the event. However long you are with him now, it will be equal - sometimes double that time to recover. That's more years off your life. Get out asap: get help, talk to people here (but NOT astroman), get a reading done here on your natal, get self knowledge, work through your issues, get empowered. Get away from him. Putting it simply 
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AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: More than that dear, he will ruin you psychologically as well - the trauma often comes after the event. However long you are with him now, it will be equal - sometimes double that time to recover. That's moe years off your life.Get out asap: get help, talk to people here (but NOT astroman), get a reading done here on your natal, get self knowledge, work through your issues, get empowered. Get away from him. Putting it simply 
I dont think she will be psychologically abused. She sees the situation for what it is now and she wants to move on. She is ready to cope with the abuse. So she is in essence healing. She will become whole after she realizes that she is too special and too powerful of an individual to accept being abused. IP: Logged |
aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: More than that dear, he will ruin you psychologically as well - the trauma often comes after the event. However long you are with him now, it will be equal - sometimes double that time to recover. That's more years off your life.Get out asap: get help, talk to people here (but NOT astroman), get a reading done here on your natal, get self knowledge, work through your issues, get empowered. Get away from him. Putting it simply 
THANK YOuuuuu sassa and i will do that for sure thank you thank you ... 0:-) IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: I dont think she will be psychologically abused. She sees the situation for what it is now and she wants to move on. She is ready to cope with the abuse. So she is in essence healing. She will become whole after she realizes that she is too special and too powerful of an individual to accept being abused.
What UTTER rubbish IP: Logged |
aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: I dont think she will be psychologically abused. She sees the situation for what it is now and she wants to move on. She is ready to cope with the abuse. So she is in essence healing. She will become whole after she realizes that she is too special and too powerful of an individual to accept being abused.
yes i am starting to notice that astro i really am but you all have different opinions and as long as i think is good advice i will take it but thanks 4real  IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: What UTTER rubbish
How is me saying that she is ready to move on and get out of this relationship rubbish? Do you want her to stay in it? I don't. She is too special of a person to accept this behavior. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4643 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 20, 2011 02:23 AM
@aquarqueen Ouch, hitting? That's not the 'best' quote unquote but some people go for it.. I'll write about what stands out to me. OK I can see tension Mercuries sq, his merc sq your sun (i hate seeing this one it pops up over and over in communication difficulties, the sun person does not want to hear what merc has to say can't even understand what level they're operating on and dismisses them without further thought), your Merc conj his Saturn ouch I just ended a relationship that had this, his saturn opp your Moon (also sn ruler), mars conj uranus, there are others. OK these coupled with his Natal moon sq pluto, synastry venus conj mars, etc. there is a draw and he needs you and is clinging sort of childishly, there's a strange parent child dynamic here with you two switching roles every so often. You have a ton of placements in his 4th, your nodes run along his ic/mc axis nn on ic, he may really think that he should have a home with you (and maybe vice versa) but his relating or should I say emotional patterns from wayyy back are such that he clings when his emotions are triggered for fear that you will be taken from him since loss = death, so that's tied in here. It's like a perfect moon/h4 storm. If you really want to end this you need to break the pseudo family bond and hope that he can heal himself elsewhere. There's a good amount of attraction here tho -mars/venus -venus/venus -mars/pluto -both have moon conj jupiter -his venus (asc & h8 ruler) conj your venus (h8 ruler) Is your Asc Libra or Scorp I can't tell..If it's Libra then the bond is stronger, that is your asc rulers are conj, a big draw. plus his asc ruler would be conj your dsc ruler. these are aspects whispering that this is your mate and there is a perfect natural male female attraction. I don't think you should blame yourself over attracting this type. There are a good number of people attracted to you I can tell, so it's just a matter of paying closer attn to the traits you do like and weeding out the riff raff if it brings up negatives from the past. You chose this one but you could have chosen someone else, so ask yourself why and then if you want to stay and work it out or if you want to go and learn from this. Your Merc is actually square his nodal axis so you're around to tell him something he needs to hear re:taking a breather and just letting things flow. How funny his Nn ruler Merc is conj his Sn and sq your sun/merc. He prob feels like he has to translate everything he thinks to get you to listen and then you look at him and think 'nuh uh, it's the other way babe, you're headed in the wrong direction and you're on the wrong subject.' Be happy it's not in fixed signs, it could be worse.IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquarqueen: yes i am starting to notice that astro i really am but you all have different opinions and as long as i think is good advice i will take it but thanks 4real 
you are welcome? Do you have facebook? Can I add you to my friends list? IP: Logged |
aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [b]@aquarqueen Ouch, hitting? That's not the 'best' quote unquote but some people go for it.. I'll write about what stands out to me. OK I can see tension Mercuries sq, his merc sq your sun (i hate seeing this one it pops up over and over in communication difficulties, the sun person does not want to hear what merc has to say can't even understand what level they're operating on and dismisses them without further thought), your Merc conj his Saturn ouch I just ended a relationship that had this, his saturn opp your Moon (also sn ruler), mars conj uranus, there are others. OK these coupled with his Natal moon sq pluto, synastry venus conj mars, etc. there is a draw and he needs you and is clinging sort of childishly, there's a strange parent child dynamic here with you two switching roles every so often. You have a ton of placements in his 4th, your nodes run along his ic/mc axis nn on ic, he may really think that he should have a home with you (and maybe vice versa) but his relating or should I say emotional patterns from wayyy back are such that he clings when his emotions are triggered for fear that you will be taken from him since loss = death, so that's tied in here. It's like a perfect moon/h4 storm. If you really want to end this you need to break the pseudo family bond and hope that he can heal himself elsewhere. There's a good amount of attraction here tho -mars/venus -venus/venus -mars/pluto -both have moon conj jupiter -his venus (asc & h8 ruler) conj your venus (h8 ruler) Is your Asc Libra or Scorp I can't tell..If it's Libra then the bond is stronger, that is your asc rulers are conj, a big draw. plus his asc ruler would be conj your dsc ruler. these are aspects whispering that this is your mate and there is a perfect natural male female attraction. I don't think you should blame yourself over attracting this type. There are a good number of people attracted to you I can tell, so it's just a matter of paying closer attn to the traits you do like and weeding out the riff raff if it brings up negatives from the past. You chose this one but you could have chosen someone else, so ask yourself why and then if you want to stay and work it out or if you want to go and learn from this. Your Merc is actually square his nodal axis so you're around to tell him something he needs to hear re:taking a breather and just letting things flow. How funny his Nn ruler Merc is conj his Sn and sq your sun/merc. He prob feels like he has to translate everything he thinks to get you to listen and then you look at him and think 'nuh uh, it's the other way babe, you're headed in the wrong direction and you're on the wrong subject.' Be happy it's not in fixed signs, it could be worse.[/B]
my ascd is libra ..& yes you are right about the whole parent thing one day he thinks hes my dad and the next hes my man -__- so weird... IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:41 AM
Can we do a natal sometime Aqua?You can find ways of better understanding yourself - thus empowering yourself, and having a clearer picture of who you are, what your needs are, and how to get them met, and also how to identify a predator and avoid them. If this guy has done this to others before, it is extremely unlikely he is evolved enough to stop. You CAN have a happy relationship. Or at least one where the issues are resolved without violence and abuse  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:51 AM
Quite honestly: he hits you? And you`re still there?Forget the astrology, and kick him out of your life. If he`s dangerous (and if he is hitting you, he is), get a restraining order, if that is the only thing that works to get rid of him. IP: Logged |
aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Can we do a natal sometime Aqua?You can find ways of better understanding yourself - thus empowering yourself, and having a clearer picture of who you are, what your needs are, and how to get them met, and also how to identify a predator and avoid them. If this guy has done this to others before, it is extremely unlikely he is evolved enough to stop. You CAN have a happy relationship. Or at least one where the issues are resolved without violence and abuse 
sure we can i will post one up .. & thanks im glad you are interested in helping me this is what i needed ..when i go to astro.com do i leave it as natal chart wheel or do i switch it up to something else .. IP: Logged |
aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Quite honestly: he hits you? And you`re still there?Forget the astrology, and kick him out of your life. If he`s dangerous (and if he is hitting you, he is), get a restraining order, if that is the only thing that works to get rid of him.
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sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:54 AM
Hi Aqua,I just saw you have a natal thread running. Are you able to run a new one of the same, but in Personal Readings?
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aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Hi Aqua,I just saw you have a natal thread running. Are you able to run a new one of the same, but in Personal Readings?
Yess how do i do that new to this .. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 02:57 AM
Lonake,  It is such a joy reading your astrological analysis. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 03:02 AM
Go to Personal Readings and run a thread about someone reading your chart. Then post your chart, like you did already.It's no biggie though, just you will likely get more reading done. I just noticed - this guy is like, 20-30 years older than you. Oh dear  As you have a fire void in your chart (as already mentioned in natal thread), you may somehow feel like you need him to balance that out (his sun and mercury are in Sagg, bringing that energy into your life). However, at the same time, you may not be all that compatible with that energy - you may find him too domineering, too fiery, too active. When you have a void, as I do in water, it's often best that you find a way to incorporate that energy yourself rather than attempting to (unconsciously) "import" that energy from relationships - it often leads to unhappiness and confusion if you do it this way. Which of course I did, in my 20s, hanging out with water signs, until I learned what was going on astrologically. Just a thought. IP: Logged |
aquarqueen Knowflake Posts: 94 From: bronx Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 03:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Go to Personal Readings and run a thread about someone reading your chart. Then post your chart, like you did already.It's no biggie though, just you will likely get more reading done. I just noticed - this guy is like, 20-30 years older than you. Oh dear 
kk i sure will do that right now & yes he is IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4643 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 20, 2011 03:13 AM
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AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 03:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Quite honestly: he hits you? And you`re still there?Forget the astrology, and kick him out of your life. If he`s dangerous (and if he is hitting you, he is), get a restraining order, if that is the only thing that works to get rid of him.
that is what i used to say but it isnt so simple. The abusive relationship can seem loving to some people and it is very hard to escape. When the victim learns to love themselves is when they are ready to move away from it because they no longer get satisfaction from depreciation. They learn to only get satisfaction when someone empowers them as opposed to getting feelings of excitement from the removal of power and accepting the role of submission. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 20, 2011 03:45 AM
aquaqueen you stopped responding to me, did I scare you off? I am sorry. I am just learning to show my emotions more, I love making all kinds of different friends now that is why I wanted to add you. I feel that you are interesting and we could have great conversations but if you feel uncomfortable I understand. People aren't used to this side of me. haha.IP: Logged |