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Topic: Planets in 12th house - Real Life Observations-
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MertSerimer
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From: where the fun is
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posted July 21, 2011 02:44 AM
  
IF YOUR 12th house planets conjuncts Ascendant Then they are considered as 1st house planets. So you must ignore interpretations.IP: Logged |
pixie
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posted July 21, 2011 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
IF YOUR 12th house planets conjuncts Ascendant Then they are considered as 1st house planets. So you must ignore interpretations.
My Sun/Venus/Neptune conjunct the Asc. Agh, I'd been thinking they're 12th house planets. Thank you for poiting that out  But... on the second thought...Still, the descriptions are accurate to an extent. I work in a hospital, am a night creature and love to sit in night bars. I live in my little world, also have an unhealthy interest in death n sexual fantasies. But maybe the sexual fantasies part is caused by hormones =))
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Heartless
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posted July 21, 2011 03:14 AM
thanks for this. that's where i have lilith and pluto. some is true and some isn't. this house is still pretty much a mystery to me.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 21, 2011 06:02 AM
Mert
How would you make the distinction of what conjuncts the ASC and what is in the 12th house.
What orb would you use?
Thank you !------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ceridwen
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posted July 21, 2011 06:11 AM
Oh great!
I have Mars in 12h house, but conjunct the ASC by 2 degrees. Does that brighten my prospects a bit?Actually I think my Mars is both, very 12th house and very 1st house, which is interesting. It is on 5 Sagittarius in 12th house conjunct Neptune and N N on 9 Sagittarius in 1st house, with the ASC smack in the middle on 7 Sag.
Which of course means that the Mars/Neptune - midpoint is exactly conjunct ASC. The feeling and expression of anger has always been an issue for me. But wow, what a breakthrough it was when I realized that I indeed can be angry!
Nowadays I try to let it out in small doses, and not let Neptune fog it and water it down, cause then it is like a pressurecooker. It will come out, but probably in selfdestructive suffocating ways, and pretty uncontrolled.
So it is better to let it out, when it happens (though I still do not always know when I am angry).
I used to have so little energy I thought. But whenever I am fighting FOR someone or something, my energy is endless, and I feel like I can literally move mountains; usually when it is to help weaker people or even children.
Another thing that is interesting is that I often do not know what I really want, and yes that also relates to sexual things. Am I really attracted to someone or do I just imagine I am? It is easier if the other person is Neptunian in nature, cause that takes a lot of the confusion away. Like all of a sudden my Mars is free to play. IP: Logged |
CancerRising
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posted July 21, 2011 06:54 AM
Yeah, my Mercury conjuncts my ASC by 1 degree, but falls in the 12th house. Confused.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 21, 2011 07:20 AM
Mert
I have to commend you on this article.It was one of the best I have read.
I am in awe ,in a bad way I suppose of the Moon and Mars in the 12th that my father has.
I feel so much pain that he had to go through that. He is classic for them 
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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mir
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posted July 21, 2011 07:54 AM
Sun in the 12th, not near ascendant.Night person? yes.
Hospital? yes yes, as a patient.
Occult? astrology, yes.
Criminal tendency? yes, I would definitely sympathize with something like the Baader Meinhof gang. IP: Logged |
MertSerimer
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From: where the fun is
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mert
I have to commend you on this article.It was one of the best I have read.
I am in awe ,in a bad way I suppose of the Moon and Mars in the 12th that my father has.
I feel so much pain that he had to go through that. He is classic for them
My lady, I hope your father didnt suffer it too much. By the way ALLOWED DEGREE OR ORB is sth mutable depending on astrologers so i cant say sth on that. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted July 21, 2011 09:37 AM
H12 Merc,I've never been frustrated by this position,very annoyed,yes! It doesn't hold true for me,especially playing dumb. That's just offensive.IP: Logged |
Lightning Strike
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From: Moulin Rouge
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 10:35 AM
Moon in the 12th house.
I can't, for the life of me,express myself in public the way I do at home.
Not even my closest friends know me like I do, and even my parents think I'm hard-hearted sometimes.
I keep myself in check, but kind of like restrained by my own handcuffs and super glue.
To others, they probably feel like I don't have emotions or feelings because they're so hard to reach.
And I'll probably seem stone cold
In sticky situations, I'm the eye of the storm because I can't lose myself to the moment. It's a self-control issue.
I also think it can be ridiculous how some girls can throw emotions into the mix to get what they want. I believe in having to work for it, not playing damsel in distress.But it's not all rotten. Sometimes it proves to be useful.
I am interested in the occult, but along with everyone else on this forum, with or without a 12th house planet. Maybe it points to something else? A whole other level of the occult? I guess we'll have to wait and see. ------------------
“When you don’t get what you want, you suffer. If you get it, you suffer too since you can’t hold on to it forever.” IP: Logged |
abcd efg
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Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 11:18 AM
hmmmmm......some of the things just don't resonate. I don't know how this house is associated with sex and death. Its 8th house i believe.I think its past life reflection. And if so then all that description could be true. Sun and Nep in 12th in Scorpio. Ha ha ha! (Thats evil laughter OK?) My Jup conj moon just doesn't allow me to think in those lines. I think its past life stuff. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted July 21, 2011 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by abcd efg:
hmmmmm......some of the things just don't resonate. I don't know how this house is associated with sex and death. Its 8th house i believe.I think its past life reflection. And if so then all that description could be true. Sun and Nep in 12th in Scorpio. Ha ha ha! (Thats evil laughter OK?) My Jup conj moon just doesn't allow me to think in those lines. I think its past life stuff.
Well 8th house is repression.12th is suppression.
I suppose the main difference is one is deeper lol ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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MertSerimer
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From: where the fun is
Registered: Mar 2011
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posted July 21, 2011 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by abcd efg:
hmmmmm......some of the things just don't resonate. I don't know how this house is associated with sex and death. Its 8th house i believe.I think its past life reflection. And if so then all that description could be true. Sun and Nep in 12th in Scorpio. Ha ha ha! (Thats evil laughter OK?) My Jup conj moon just doesn't allow me to think in those lines. I think its past life stuff.
In vedic astrology, 12th house is associated with satisfaction in sex.(there are many other traits also) IP: Logged |
abcd efg
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From: India
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posted July 21, 2011 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
In vedic astrology, 12th house is associated with satisfaction in sex.(there are many other traits also)
Could be, because this department never really got me going and i didn't feel repulsed either. So it was like "OK its Cool". So that must be the reason. Thx. Been there done that case (of past life). That also explains the interest the opp sex shows in me and i feel what the h**l, i am too old for that (our culture mentality). I used to wonder whether i was a snob. Now things are falling in place.  And which site would you recommend for other traits pl? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 21, 2011 01:38 PM
Mert
It is so sweet when you call me "My Lady"  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 21, 2011 02:28 PM
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I don't agree with those at all. It looks like a mish-mash of 8th and 12th and a lot of other gibberish.
I totally agree! I know the 12th and 8th houses have similarities in common, but lets not mesh the two together here...that's just laziness. Sex is primarily a 2nd, 5th, and 8th house issue. 12th house can be involved, but its usually by association with sex planets or rulers of the aforementioned houses.
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Ami Anne
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posted July 24, 2011 07:16 AM
Bump this is so great!------------------
It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept.
Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby.
But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand.
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VenusDiSirius
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posted July 24, 2011 07:33 AM
Maybe it's a bit of an astro-cliché,but do H12 Suns really desire power?? Or is it strictly a Stellium's doing??IP: Logged |
Chelsey
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posted July 24, 2011 12:32 PM
Okay so I have Venus and Pluto in 11th and12th house in Scorpio.is this why I can cut people off like its nothingIP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 24, 2011 12:40 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chelsey:
Okay so I have Venus and Pluto in 11th and12th house in Scorpio.is this why I can cut people off like its nothing[/QUOTE
Hi Chelsea  ------------------
It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept.
Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby.
But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand.
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nordicsoul
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posted July 24, 2011 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Lets stop and think about this for a minute. If Angelina Jolie has this placement, could the bolded part really be true? I have a Mars in Aries and I believe I'm verrry typical in that respect (pretty high libido) I just happen to find myself going for long periods without sex. I don't know if its the controlling aspect of an 8th house Moon or maybe even this placement, but I know I'm not going without it because I'm not interested.
Other than that, most of the interpretations for my 12th house planets were interesting. I do have a secret world/reality, and I often wondered why I've never published anything.....until I realize all the technicalities that come with that. =___= I also have many hidden parts of myself that I prefer to keep secret or have been repressed. Individuality/eccentricity was one (Uranus), depression was another (Saturn), mysticism would be the third (Neptune).
I have saturn in 12 in aries. I identified with what it is said. i may have a stronger libido now, given that my hormones have changed a little, but i remember me not needing sex at all for 2 years if i had not a partner for that time period. and it is true, i dont see too much in having sex without partnership. it is not a moral thing, because i can allow myself to do it if i want it, it is just does not make me any happier. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted July 24, 2011 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh great!
I have Mars in 12h house, but conjunct the ASC by 2 degrees. Does that brighten my prospects a bit?Actually I think my Mars is both, very 12th house and very 1st house, which is interesting. It is on 5 Sagittarius in 12th house conjunct Neptune and N N on 9 Sagittarius in 1st house, with the ASC smack in the middle on 7 Sag.
Which of course means that the Mars/Neptune - midpoint is exactly conjunct ASC. The feeling and expression of anger has always been an issue for me. But wow, what a breakthrough it was when I realized that I indeed can be angry!
Nowadays I try to let it out in small doses, and not let Neptune fog it and water it down, cause then it is like a pressurecooker. It will come out, but probably in selfdestructive suffocating ways, and pretty uncontrolled.
So it is better to let it out, when it happens (though I still do not always know when I am angry).
I used to have so little energy I thought. But whenever I am fighting FOR someone or something, my energy is endless, and I feel like I can literally move mountains; usually when it is to help weaker people or even children.
Another thing that is interesting is that I often do not know what I really want, and yes that also relates to sexual things. Am I really attracted to someone or do I just imagine I am? It is easier if the other person is Neptunian in nature, cause that takes a lot of the confusion away. Like all of a sudden my Mars is free to play.
i think is the conjunction with neptune. our description matches pretty well what i have read of mars-neptune hard aspects or conjunction IP: Logged |
AriesSun
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From: the red planet
Registered: Jan 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 07:43 PM
My mom have sun,moon and mercury in 12th house and all those readings hold true- as good as badIP: Logged |
future_uncertain
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posted July 24, 2011 09:23 PM
Sag Sun, Mars, and Neptune in the 12th. The Mars part rings very true for me. The people closest to me,(as in my inner, inner circle)know that I have an extremely explosive temper, otherwise, you would never guess this about me. It's strange to me that I don't identify with this part of myself, even though those closest to me know enough to be cautious. I don't like this one bit--I'm really repulsed by it in fact, but when it happens I usually feel justified in the moment. My anger usually erupts without much warning, even for me. My libido is anything but diminished! However, according to this article, Neptune in the 12th brings a tendency to spend a lot of time daydreaming about sex, and that's definitely true! I can spend entire days fantasizing about sex, but without interest in actually indulging in sex, which can be highly frustrating. Note: I only share this in the interest of exploring these placements, not to frivolously dish on my sexuality! Overall, I feel like the 12th house is a strange place for all this Sag energy. I don't dislike it (mostly) but I sometimes wish the fire element didn't feel so diluted. IP: Logged |
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