| Author | Topic:   Planets in 12th house - Real Life Observations- | 
	| MertSerimer Knowflake
 Posts: 956From: where the fun is
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:30 PM       QUOTED From 123 Astrology
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 Planets Close or Conjunction to ASC is considered as 1st house planet. Allowed degree or orb may change for some astrologers.
 The Twelfth House is actually known as all kinds of things - TheHouse of Sex and Death, The House of Secrets and The House of the
 Inner You. All three titles are apt for this house that describes
 who you really are when you are alone. It also reveals any secrets
 that you may keep from the public as well as every character trait
 that was repressed for you when you were a child. In some ways it
 represents the real you and what you secretly desire.
 
 This interesting house can also reveal how psychic you are, whether
 or not you have psychological problems, your risk of ending up in
 an institution or hospital and the shadow side of your personality.
 
 To find the Twelfth House on your horoscope look at the wheel as a
 clock. The Twelfth House is located from the nine am to ten pm
 position.
 
 If you have the Sun in the Twelfth House you are likely to be a
 night person. You will love to haunt all night bars. Many people
 who have this placement work the night shift. As the Sun is in what
 is considered to be a "house of restriction" many people with this
 placement either work in or end up as a patient in a hospital or a
 jail. There is a tendency to manipulate things behind the scenes.
 You may very attract to the occult and may have a criminal tendency.
 
 Celebrities with this placement include George W. Bush, Madonna,
 Camilla Parker Bowles, Saddam Hussein and Tony Blair.
 
 If you have the Moon in the Twelfth House you are probably
 sexually, emotionally and psychologically repressed. You probably
 had a bad childhood and abuse may even be likely. The result is a
 fearful or angry individual who is terrified of rejection and
 self-expression. People with this placement can be very sarcastic
 and critical. Often they require treatment for mood swings. A
 person with a moon in the Twelfth House may believe fervently in
 the occult. However they have a lot of lucky hunches that are
 completely false.  They may also have a lot of delusions about
 their partner who is almost always cruel.
 
 People with this placement include Bjork, Russell Crowe, Katie
 Holmes, Marilyn Manson and Kim Besieger.
 
 If you have the communication Mercury in the Twelfth House you may
 be someone who has spent his or her entire life playing dumb to get
 ahead. Inside you is a secret contempt for others that is masked by
 a brilliant, engaging smile.  You may seethe inwardly that nobody
 takes you seriously because of your looks or money. You may be a
 person of few words who believes in swift, ruthless and affirmative
 action.
 
 Good looking celebrities who may suffer from this frustrating
 planetary placement include Alyssa Milano, Gerard Depardieu,
 Elizabeth Hurley, Sandra Bullock, Keith Richards and Winona Ryder.
 
 
 If you have the love planet Venus in the Twelfth House you may cut
 others off emotionally. You may also come off as harsh, cold or
 dispassionate to others. You may also lack a sense of humor. You
 might be inordinately interested in sex or death and addiction to
 pornography is likely.  A sado-masochistic streak may dominate
 events in the bedroom. However you may also possess an unearthly
 beauty or dress in a very Goth like fashion. You have a fascination
 with death.
 
 Celebrities who have this placement are Meryl Streep, Ashley and
 Mary Kate Olsen,  Linda Lovelace,  River Phoenix and Mia Farrow.
 
 People with Mars in the Twelfth House are often hiding a very
 explosive or dangerous personality beneath a calm exterior. If you
 have this placement of Mars you are probably a walking time bomb.
 As your entire libido goes towards feeding your anger you may not
 necessarily have a very high sex drive. You are more likely then
 most people to die from a violent act or accident.
 
 Famous individuals with this twelfth house Mars trait are Britney
 Spears, Milla Jovovich, Che Guevara, Mick Jagger, Jude Law, Bill
 Clinton, David Bowie, Tom Selleck and Anderson Cooper.
 
 Individuals with Jupiter in the Twelfth House are the types that
 have "nine lives." They tend to have lives filled with misfortunes
 but they get out alive where others are not able. If you have this
 placement you are quite lucky naturally and have a belief in a
 guardian angel. You may lose a spouse to death early or die a
 strange death.
 
 Celebrities with this placement are Jennifer Lopez, Elvis Presley,
 Jennifer Aniston, Demi Moore, Bono, Tom Hanks, Elton John, Katie
 Holmes, Elizabeth Hurley, Tony Blair, Roman Polanski and Liv Tyler.
 
 If you have Saturn in your Twelfth House you are likely to suffer
 from depression during your life. You may also have other types of
 mood or psychological disorders that you must feel you should hide
 from people so that they don't think you are crazy. Sexually you
 may have a very low libido and you may not see much point of sex
 outside of marriage.
 
 Individuals with this placement, which actually reveal quite a bit
 about what they might be like in bed, are George W. Bush, Angelina
 Jolie, Cameron Diaz, Ben Affleck, Camilla Parker Bowles and Whitney
 Houston.
 
 If you have Uranus in your Twelfth House you are probably some kind
 of secret genius. Your talents may be suppressed or restricted
 because of harsh circumstances or a lack of opportunity to exploit
 it. Very often people with a Uranus Twelfth House are harboring a
 great deal of rage that often blows up on an unsuspecting loved
 one. A creative outlet is absolutely necessary for this type of
 person.
 
 Individuals with this placement include Adolf Hitler, Keanu Reeves,
 Ewan McGregor, Robert DeNiro, Sharon Stone,  Madonna, Jennifer
 Aniston and Hilary Clinton.
 
 If you have Neptune in your Twelfth House you may have a huge
 secret life. You live in your own little world.  Sexual fantasies
 may dominate your day. You might also make a great science fiction
 or mystery writer. Your subconscious and its symbols rule your
 daily decisions more than most people. You like the idea of sex
 better then you like to do it.  You secretly love drugs and
 pornography.
 
 Celebrities with Neptune in the Twelfth House include Harrison
 Ford, Edward Norton, Jude Law, Bill Clinton, Winona Ryder, Gisele
 Bundchen and Prince.
 
 If you have Pluto in your Twelfth House then you have a bad case of
 inner rage. You are likely to be a victim of violence or child
 abuse. Individuals with this placement are often predatory and
 extremely intuitive. If they can resolve their issues they make
 great psychotherapists and healers. Sex can be difficult for people
 with Pluto in the Twelfth who always identify a lover with an
 abusive parent or former lover.  They are also very fascinated by
 the occult and death. The enormous amount of energy generated by
 the Pluto in the Twelfth House can either turn to obsession or
 focus on a fantastic career.
 
 Well known people with this rage provoking placement include Tom
 Cruise, Madonna, Jennifer Lopez, Al Pacino, Jack Nicholson, Ewan
 McGregor, Steve McQueen, Freddie Mercury, Andy Warhol and Ava
 Gardner.  Notice how all of these celebrities are known for their
 tempers yet are absurdly rich and successful.
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	| Ami Anne Moderator
 Posts: 62458From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
 Registered: Sep 2010
 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:37 PM       That was Awesome Mert.
 Yep would not want to go to bed with George W.Bush :his father,George Herbert Walker Bush either for that matter
  ------------------Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
 Jung
 God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
 
 He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
 Proverbs
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	| DayandNight21 Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:41 PM       I have mars in 12th and hate this placement.  I feel like I would be angry normally but instead repress it like its not an acceptable thing.  Then issues accumulate and I implode not explode, I have had to consciously with great effort work on acknowledging when I am angry and vocalising it so it is expressed rather than repressed.
 Interesting that Britney spears and Alan sugar both have mars in 12th and are multimillionaires.  Remember her (Britney's) buttons being pressed and she lashed out in the end so we saw another side to her.  So the interpretation does ring true to an extent.
 The libido thing is wrong though I have a high sex drive as my mars aspects pluto as does my venus and all boyfriends have given good feedback so far (and as they are ex boyfriends they would probably tell me their criticisms as I know how they are ie tell me what they like and dislike).
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	| Nicole401 Knowflake
 Posts: 447From: CA, USA
 Registered: Jun 2011
 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:43 PM       
 quote:If you have the love planet Venus in the Twelfth House you may cut
 others off emotionally. You may also come off as harsh, cold or
 dispassionate to others.
 
 Yes! I don't like being openly emotional.
   quote:You may also lack a sense of humor. You
 might be inordinately interested in sex or death and addiction to
 pornography is likely. A sado-masochistic streak may dominate
 events in the bedroom.
 
 Everyone tells me I'm funny, so that can't be true.
   quote:Venus conjunct ascendant... & I'm very interested in the "Edgy" kind of style. Then again, that style suits Geminis best (my asc).However you may also possess an unearthly
 beauty or dress in a very Goth like fashion.
 
  You have a fascinationwith death.
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	| Ami Anne Moderator
 Posts: 62458From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
 Registered: Sep 2010
 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:44 PM       My father has moon and Mars in Cancer in the 12th house.
 He is very passive.I have been angry at him that he never defended me against my mother.
 He stood there like another kid.
 However,I feel sorry for him when I read about moon AND Mars there.
 His time of birth is totally accurate ,too.
 He would have such suppressed anger that the veins in his hands would pulsate but he never,ever raged or got it out in a direct way.It makes me sad although I am still angry at him
  ------------------Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
 Jung
 God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
 
 He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
 Proverbs
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	| Ami Anne Moderator
 Posts: 62458From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
 Registered: Sep 2010
 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:46 PM       Neptune in the 12th
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	| Benedict Moon* Knowflake
 Posts: 2791From: Avendesora
 Registered: May 2009
 |  posted July 20, 2011 05:52 PM       
 quote:If you have Saturn in your Twelfth House you are likely to suffer
 from depression during your life. You may also have other types of
 mood or psychological disorders that you must feel you should hide
 from people so that they don't think you are crazy. Sexually you
 may have a very low libido and you may not see much point of sex
 outside of marriage.
 
 Lets stop and think about this for a minute. If Angelina Jolie has this placement, could the bolded part really be true? I have a Mars in Aries and I believe I'm verrry typical in that respect (pretty high libido) I just happen to find myself going for long periods without sex. I don't know if its the controlling aspect of an 8th house Moon or maybe even this placement, but I know I'm not going without it because I'm not interested.
 Other than that, most of the interpretations for my 12th house planets were interesting. I do have a secret world/reality, and I often wondered why I've never published anything.....until I realize all the technicalities that come with that. =___=  I also have many hidden parts of myself that I prefer to keep secret or have been repressed. Individuality/eccentricity was one (Uranus), depression was another (Saturn), mysticism would be the third (Neptune).
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	| Chaos Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 06:13 PM       Mars & Jupiter in 12th house, in Pisces, NN in Aries...
   quote:People with Mars in the Twelfth House are often hiding a very
 explosive or dangerous personality beneath a calm exterior. If you
 have this placement of Mars you are probably a walking time bomb...
 Individuals with Jupiter in the Twelfth House are the types thathave "nine lives." They tend to have lives filled with misfortunes
 but they get out alive where others are not able.
 
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	| Ami Anne Moderator
 Posts: 62458From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
 Registered: Sep 2010
 |  posted July 20, 2011 06:17 PM       Just read about Moon in the 12th,again.
 They have a lot of delusions about the partner and the partner is often cruel.
 That is my parents   ------------------Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
 Jung
 God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
 
 He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
 Proverbs
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	| hippichick Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 07:03 PM       Well certainly sums up my Neptune in the 12th! (pisces sun here!)
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	| CancerRising Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 09:03 PM       The Sun in 12th was pretty spot on, although the dark scares me so I hate working at night, buy I love being up all night. I've never been in a hospital or jail (knock on wood) but know MANY people that have, or work.in them.
 I don't really agree with the Mercury description, except for the playing dumb part. I say "sorry I didn't know" all the time even if I Do know. Muahahahahahah! IP: Logged | 
	| starcrossedleo Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 09:07 PM       
 quote:Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
 
 Lets stop and think about this for a minute. If Angelina Jolie has this placement, could the bolded part really be true? I have a Mars in Aries and I believe I'm verrry typical in that respect (pretty high libido) I just happen to find myself going for long periods without sex. I don't know if its the controlling aspect of an 8th house Moon or maybe even this placement, but I know I'm not going without it because I'm not interested.
 Other than that, most of the interpretations for my 12th house planets were interesting. I do have a secret world/reality, and I often wondered why I've never published anything.....until I realize all the technicalities that come with that. =___=  I also have many hidden parts of myself that I prefer to keep secret or have been repressed. Individuality/eccentricity was one (Uranus), depression was another (Saturn), mysticism would be the third (Neptune).
 
 I agree .  I read this one and my ex has Saturn in the 12th. The first part about depression was on the mark but he had a strong libido (maybe it was his 3 planets in Scorpio)
 
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	| Ami Anne Moderator
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 09:12 PM       edit
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	| Moonfish Moderator
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 09:48 PM       I have Moon in the 12H
 Some things sound true, except being abused by a partner. I will not allow myself to be put in that situation even if I have to be single for the rest of my life
 Btw Milla Jovovich & Lady Gaga have there Moon in the 12H too IP: Logged | 
	| enchantress299 Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 09:52 PM       Yeah, I totally disagree with the Saturn in the 12th house description. Not even just the sex part, but the depression/mood-disorders part as well.
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	| hmm Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 10:10 PM       nice... i approve this msg!
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	| sand Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 10:14 PM       alot of movie stars have sun in 12th coz venus is always near the sun so it could put venus on the ascendant.
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	| frankie2912 Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 10:27 PM       I have Pluto in the 12th, conjunct my ASC. Yes that is very, very accurate. I think I freak people out sometimes.
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	| CancerRising Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 10:34 PM       
 quote:Originally posted by sand:
 alot of movie stars have sun in 12th coz venus is always near the sun so it could put venus on the ascendant.
 
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	| sassaqua Knowflake
 Posts: 331From: Australia
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 11:00 PM       I have mars in the 12th (and venus).
 i don't think i have an explosive personality.  I can relate to what Dayandnight says.  I've thought more about this placement since ami looked at my chart. I believe mars is about healthily asserting oneself, so not initially aggression.  I realise I have difficulty asserting myself and my boundaries(12thH).  People can take advantage, or not know where my limit is, sometimes perhaps thinking I'm a pushover.  Then I get angry, but often it's after the fact. Mars in 12th is a sense of frustration too, as it's difficult to both identify, access AND direct the energy outwards.  Takes a lot of energy! Like dayandnight, I have to work consciously to recognise and express when I am angry.  The up side is that, I think can do this quite well now - I say eg: "I'm feeling angry with you because..." Interesting to note that Brittany has spent a fair time in institutios (incl the micky mouse club   ) And, it might seem that she tends to turn on herself on many ocassions.  That frustration of not being able to access or direct it, then it turning inwards?
 
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	| rajji unregistered
 |  posted July 20, 2011 11:15 PM     For moon in the twelth..what does this mean?
 Cruel by nature or nasty(sadistic)in bed?
 "They may also have a lot of delusions about
 their partner who is almost always cruel."
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	| sand Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 11:17 PM       
 quote:Originally posted by CancerRising:
 I'm going to be a star!
   
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	| stillatlarge Knowflake
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 |  posted July 20, 2011 11:22 PM       I don't agree with those at all.  It looks like a mish-mash of 8th and 12th and a lot of other gibberish.  There are a few classic 12th house things mixed in but it just doesn't ring true at all overall. I have true node, Mars and Venus in the 12th in Cancer. I do identify with the Mercury description but I have it in Virgo in the 2nd. I don't mean to play dumb or I didn't at first.  It's just with my Mars hidden in the 12th and Moon Sq Neptune, I'm often under-estimated, especially by women.  I've learned to embrace it though and use it like one of those little seemingly defenseless little creatures you see on Animal Planet. Muahaha! I figure if it's inevitable, I may as well as well prepare to defend myself and use the hand I was dealt. They brought it on themselves and it's me or them I guess.  I really don't like to fight, but being small and the youngest female in my family, I've had to all my life.  I've learned to be sneaky because of that.
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	| GypseeWind Knowflake
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 |  posted July 21, 2011 12:14 AM       The saturn 12th was off.
 I do know some others with this placement that ARE pretty depressed, but that's not me, and as for the low libido, UMM , I WISH it was that way sometimes, my life would of been alot easier if that were true.
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	| pixie Knowflake
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 |  posted July 21, 2011 02:25 AM       Sun/Mercury/Venus/Uranus/Neptune/Juno/Lilith in the 12th house.
 all of the descriptions are accurate in my case. Thank you for sharing such an interesting article   IP: Logged |