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MertSerimer
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posted July 20, 2011 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Planets Close or Conjunction to ASC is considered as 1st house planet. Allowed degree or orb may change for some astrologers.

The Twelfth House is actually known as all kinds of things - The
House of Sex and Death, The House of Secrets and The House of the
Inner You. All three titles are apt for this house that describes
who you really are when you are alone. It also reveals any secrets
that you may keep from the public as well as every character trait
that was repressed for you when you were a child. In some ways it
represents the real you and what you secretly desire.

This interesting house can also reveal how psychic you are, whether
or not you have psychological problems, your risk of ending up in
an institution or hospital and the shadow side of your personality.

To find the Twelfth House on your horoscope look at the wheel as a
clock. The Twelfth House is located from the nine am to ten pm
position.

If you have the Sun in the Twelfth House you are likely to be a
night person. You will love to haunt all night bars. Many people
who have this placement work the night shift. As the Sun is in what
is considered to be a "house of restriction" many people with this
placement either work in or end up as a patient in a hospital or a
jail. There is a tendency to manipulate things behind the scenes.
You may very attract to the occult and may have a criminal tendency.

Celebrities with this placement include George W. Bush, Madonna,
Camilla Parker Bowles, Saddam Hussein and Tony Blair.

If you have the Moon in the Twelfth House you are probably
sexually, emotionally and psychologically repressed. You probably
had a bad childhood and abuse may even be likely. The result is a
fearful or angry individual who is terrified of rejection and
self-expression. People with this placement can be very sarcastic
and critical. Often they require treatment for mood swings. A
person with a moon in the Twelfth House may believe fervently in
the occult. However they have a lot of lucky hunches that are
completely false. They may also have a lot of delusions about
their partner who is almost always cruel.

People with this placement include Bjork, Russell Crowe, Katie
Holmes, Marilyn Manson and Kim Besieger.

If you have the communication Mercury in the Twelfth House you may
be someone who has spent his or her entire life playing dumb to get
ahead. Inside you is a secret contempt for others that is masked by
a brilliant, engaging smile. You may seethe inwardly that nobody
takes you seriously because of your looks or money. You may be a
person of few words who believes in swift, ruthless and affirmative
action.

Good looking celebrities who may suffer from this frustrating
planetary placement include Alyssa Milano, Gerard Depardieu,
Elizabeth Hurley, Sandra Bullock, Keith Richards and Winona Ryder.


If you have the love planet Venus in the Twelfth House you may cut
others off emotionally. You may also come off as harsh, cold or
dispassionate to others. You may also lack a sense of humor. You
might be inordinately interested in sex or death and addiction to
pornography is likely. A sado-masochistic streak may dominate
events in the bedroom. However you may also possess an unearthly
beauty or dress in a very Goth like fashion. You have a fascination
with death.

Celebrities who have this placement are Meryl Streep, Ashley and
Mary Kate Olsen, Linda Lovelace, River Phoenix and Mia Farrow.

People with Mars in the Twelfth House are often hiding a very
explosive or dangerous personality beneath a calm exterior. If you
have this placement of Mars you are probably a walking time bomb.
As your entire libido goes towards feeding your anger you may not
necessarily have a very high sex drive. You are more likely then
most people to die from a violent act or accident.

Famous individuals with this twelfth house Mars trait are Britney
Spears, Milla Jovovich, Che Guevara, Mick Jagger, Jude Law, Bill
Clinton, David Bowie, Tom Selleck and Anderson Cooper.

Individuals with Jupiter in the Twelfth House are the types that
have "nine lives." They tend to have lives filled with misfortunes
but they get out alive where others are not able. If you have this
placement you are quite lucky naturally and have a belief in a
guardian angel. You may lose a spouse to death early or die a
strange death.

Celebrities with this placement are Jennifer Lopez, Elvis Presley,
Jennifer Aniston, Demi Moore, Bono, Tom Hanks, Elton John, Katie
Holmes, Elizabeth Hurley, Tony Blair, Roman Polanski and Liv Tyler.

If you have Saturn in your Twelfth House you are likely to suffer
from depression during your life. You may also have other types of
mood or psychological disorders that you must feel you should hide
from people so that they don't think you are crazy. Sexually you
may have a very low libido and you may not see much point of sex
outside of marriage.

Individuals with this placement, which actually reveal quite a bit
about what they might be like in bed, are George W. Bush, Angelina
Jolie, Cameron Diaz, Ben Affleck, Camilla Parker Bowles and Whitney
Houston.

If you have Uranus in your Twelfth House you are probably some kind
of secret genius. Your talents may be suppressed or restricted
because of harsh circumstances or a lack of opportunity to exploit
it. Very often people with a Uranus Twelfth House are harboring a
great deal of rage that often blows up on an unsuspecting loved
one. A creative outlet is absolutely necessary for this type of
person.

Individuals with this placement include Adolf Hitler, Keanu Reeves,
Ewan McGregor, Robert DeNiro, Sharon Stone, Madonna, Jennifer
Aniston and Hilary Clinton.

If you have Neptune in your Twelfth House you may have a huge
secret life. You live in your own little world. Sexual fantasies
may dominate your day. You might also make a great science fiction
or mystery writer. Your subconscious and its symbols rule your
daily decisions more than most people. You like the idea of sex
better then you like to do it. You secretly love drugs and
pornography.

Celebrities with Neptune in the Twelfth House include Harrison
Ford, Edward Norton, Jude Law, Bill Clinton, Winona Ryder, Gisele
Bundchen and Prince.

If you have Pluto in your Twelfth House then you have a bad case of
inner rage. You are likely to be a victim of violence or child
abuse. Individuals with this placement are often predatory and
extremely intuitive. If they can resolve their issues they make
great psychotherapists and healers. Sex can be difficult for people
with Pluto in the Twelfth who always identify a lover with an
abusive parent or former lover. They are also very fascinated by
the occult and death. The enormous amount of energy generated by
the Pluto in the Twelfth House can either turn to obsession or
focus on a fantastic career.

Well known people with this rage provoking placement include Tom
Cruise, Madonna, Jennifer Lopez, Al Pacino, Jack Nicholson, Ewan
McGregor, Steve McQueen, Freddie Mercury, Andy Warhol and Ava
Gardner. Notice how all of these celebrities are known for their
tempers yet are absurdly rich and successful.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 20, 2011 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was Awesome Mert.
Yep would not want to go to bed with George W.Bush :his father,George Herbert Walker Bush either for that matter

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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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DayandNight21
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posted July 20, 2011 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars in 12th and hate this placement. I feel like I would be angry normally but instead repress it like its not an acceptable thing. Then issues accumulate and I implode not explode, I have had to consciously with great effort work on acknowledging when I am angry and vocalising it so it is expressed rather than repressed.
Interesting that Britney spears and Alan sugar both have mars in 12th and are multimillionaires. Remember her (Britney's) buttons being pressed and she lashed out in the end so we saw another side to her. So the interpretation does ring true to an extent.
The libido thing is wrong though I have a high sex drive as my mars aspects pluto as does my venus and all boyfriends have given good feedback so far (and as they are ex boyfriends they would probably tell me their criticisms as I know how they are ie tell me what they like and dislike).

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posted July 20, 2011 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you have the love planet Venus in the Twelfth House you may cut
others off emotionally. You may also come off as harsh, cold or
dispassionate to others.


Yes! I don't like being openly emotional.

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You may also lack a sense of humor. You
might be inordinately interested in sex or death and addiction to
pornography is likely. A sado-masochistic streak may dominate
events in the bedroom.


Everyone tells me I'm funny, so that can't be true.

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However you may also possess an unearthly
beauty or dress in a very Goth like fashion.

Venus conjunct ascendant... & I'm very interested in the "Edgy" kind of style. Then again, that style suits Geminis best (my asc).

You have a fascination
with death.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 20, 2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father has moon and Mars in Cancer in the 12th house.
He is very passive.I have been angry at him that he never defended me against my mother.
He stood there like another kid.
However,I feel sorry for him when I read about moon AND Mars there.
His time of birth is totally accurate ,too.

He would have such suppressed anger that the veins in his hands would pulsate but he never,ever raged or got it out in a direct way.
It makes me sad although I am still angry at him

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 20, 2011 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in the 12th

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 20, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you have Saturn in your Twelfth House you are likely to suffer
from depression during your life. You may also have other types of
mood or psychological disorders that you must feel you should hide
from people so that they don't think you are crazy. Sexually you
may have a very low libido and you may not see much point of sex
outside of marriage.


Lets stop and think about this for a minute. If Angelina Jolie has this placement, could the bolded part really be true? I have a Mars in Aries and I believe I'm verrry typical in that respect (pretty high libido) I just happen to find myself going for long periods without sex. I don't know if its the controlling aspect of an 8th house Moon or maybe even this placement, but I know I'm not going without it because I'm not interested.


Other than that, most of the interpretations for my 12th house planets were interesting. I do have a secret world/reality, and I often wondered why I've never published anything.....until I realize all the technicalities that come with that. =___= I also have many hidden parts of myself that I prefer to keep secret or have been repressed. Individuality/eccentricity was one (Uranus), depression was another (Saturn), mysticism would be the third (Neptune).

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posted July 20, 2011 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars & Jupiter in 12th house, in Pisces, NN in Aries...

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People with Mars in the Twelfth House are often hiding a very
explosive or dangerous personality beneath a calm exterior. If you
have this placement of Mars you are probably a walking time bomb...

Individuals with Jupiter in the Twelfth House are the types that
have "nine lives." They tend to have lives filled with misfortunes
but they get out alive where others are not able.


Very true!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 20, 2011 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just read about Moon in the 12th,again.
They have a lot of delusions about the partner and the partner is often cruel.

That is my parents

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 20, 2011 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well certainly sums up my Neptune in the 12th! (pisces sun here!)

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posted July 20, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Sun in 12th was pretty spot on, although the dark scares me so I hate working at night, buy I love being up all night. I've never been in a hospital or jail (knock on wood) but know MANY people that have, or work.in them.

I don't really agree with the Mercury description, except for the playing dumb part. I say "sorry I didn't know" all the time even if I Do know. Muahahahahahah!

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posted July 20, 2011 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:

Lets stop and think about this for a minute. If Angelina Jolie has this placement, could the bolded part really be true? I have a Mars in Aries and I believe I'm verrry typical in that respect (pretty high libido) I just happen to find myself going for long periods without sex. I don't know if its the controlling aspect of an 8th house Moon or maybe even this placement, but I know I'm not going without it because I'm not interested.


Other than that, most of the interpretations for my 12th house planets were interesting. I do have a secret world/reality, and I often wondered why I've never published anything.....until I realize all the technicalities that come with that. =___= I also have many hidden parts of myself that I prefer to keep secret or have been repressed. Individuality/eccentricity was one (Uranus), depression was another (Saturn), mysticism would be the third (Neptune).



I agree . I read this one and my ex has Saturn in the 12th. The first part about depression was on the mark but he had a strong libido (maybe it was his 3 planets in Scorpio)

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posted July 20, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2011 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon in the 12H
Some things sound true, except being abused by a partner. I will not allow myself to be put in that situation even if I have to be single for the rest of my life

Btw Milla Jovovich & Lady Gaga have there Moon in the 12H too

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posted July 20, 2011 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I totally disagree with the Saturn in the 12th house description. Not even just the sex part, but the depression/mood-disorders part as well.

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posted July 20, 2011 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice... i approve this msg!

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posted July 20, 2011 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alot of movie stars have sun in 12th coz venus is always near the sun so it could put venus on the ascendant.

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posted July 20, 2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in the 12th, conjunct my ASC. Yes that is very, very accurate. I think I freak people out sometimes.

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posted July 20, 2011 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
alot of movie stars have sun in 12th coz venus is always near the sun so it could put venus on the ascendant.

I'm going to be a star!

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posted July 20, 2011 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mars in the 12th (and venus).

i don't think i have an explosive personality. I can relate to what Dayandnight says. I've thought more about this placement since ami looked at my chart.

I believe mars is about healthily asserting oneself, so not initially aggression. I realise I have difficulty asserting myself and my boundaries(12thH). People can take advantage, or not know where my limit is, sometimes perhaps thinking I'm a pushover. Then I get angry, but often it's after the fact.

Mars in 12th is a sense of frustration too, as it's difficult to both identify, access AND direct the energy outwards. Takes a lot of energy!

Like dayandnight, I have to work consciously to recognise and express when I am angry. The up side is that, I think can do this quite well now - I say eg: "I'm feeling angry with you because..."

Interesting to note that Brittany has spent a fair time in institutios (incl the micky mouse club )
And, it might seem that she tends to turn on herself on many ocassions. That frustration of not being able to access or direct it, then it turning inwards?

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posted July 20, 2011 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For moon in the twelth..what does this mean?
Cruel by nature or nasty(sadistic)in bed?
"They may also have a lot of delusions about
their partner who is almost always cruel."

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posted July 20, 2011 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CancerRising:
I'm going to be a star!

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posted July 20, 2011 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't agree with those at all. It looks like a mish-mash of 8th and 12th and a lot of other gibberish. There are a few classic 12th house things mixed in but it just doesn't ring true at all overall. I have true node, Mars and Venus in the 12th in Cancer. I do identify with the Mercury description but I have it in Virgo in the 2nd. I don't mean to play dumb or I didn't at first. It's just with my Mars hidden in the 12th and Moon Sq Neptune, I'm often under-estimated, especially by women. I've learned to embrace it though and use it like one of those little seemingly defenseless little creatures you see on Animal Planet. Muahaha! I figure if it's inevitable, I may as well as well prepare to defend myself and use the hand I was dealt. They brought it on themselves and it's me or them I guess. I really don't like to fight, but being small and the youngest female in my family, I've had to all my life. I've learned to be sneaky because of that.

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posted July 21, 2011 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The saturn 12th was off.
I do know some others with this placement that ARE pretty depressed, but that's not me, and as for the low libido, UMM , I WISH it was that way sometimes, my life would of been alot easier if that were true.

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posted July 21, 2011 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/Mercury/Venus/Uranus/Neptune/Juno/Lilith in the 12th house.

all of the descriptions are accurate in my case. Thank you for sharing such an interesting article

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