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posted July 23, 2011 09:35 PM            

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This is turning out to be a nasty weekend, between this and the Norway terror.

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posted July 23, 2011 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Comment t hat she too now belongs to the club 27? Would sound a bit cynical, wouldn`t it?

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Cynical maybe..
But she does not belong in the same company as Hendrix, Jim Morisson, Nick Drake, Tim Buckley, Joplin, Pigpen (GDead fame), etc.

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posted July 24, 2011 02:41 AM            

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Someone made a comment about the June 15 eclipse and how it hit her Moon/Neptune... Transit Mars is 23 Gemini, which is triggering that Eclipse (going on the theory that mars/saturn triggers the aftermath of an eclipse...)

On a personal note I have a lot of planets in Saggie that were triggered from the June 15 eclipse and the last week has been emotional hell and I have been drinking and taking benedryl until I pass out (and I'm not a drinker/substance abuse person...), so, maybe Mars is the trigger... ?

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posted July 24, 2011 04:06 AM            

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Amy has her ascendant in Scorpio at 17'29 degree also called Degree of Music. She was born to sing but died too soon.

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posted July 24, 2011 04:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Amy had her ascendant in Scorpio at 17'29 degree also called Degree of Music. She was born to sing but died too soon.

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posted July 24, 2011 06:20 AM            

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How come she's not in the same club as Hendrix etc?

Just a note on the pluto square pluto that Maira mentioned. Some of us are having {had} this transit very early but others will be 42 before it happens. I had mine last year (it started in 2009 when I was 35 and a half) and finished 2010 when I was 37 + 1 month.

Those born in march 1990 (random date) will get theirs at the age of 44 - 45.

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posted July 24, 2011 07:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Amy has her ascendant in Scorpio at 17'29 degree also called Degree of Music. She was born to sing but died too soon.

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Where did u get this info?

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posted July 24, 2011 07:37 AM            

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Sorry, I was typing too quickly and without really checking her chart. I always for some reason thought the Saturn Return was happening at 28 years of age, and thought that 27 may be close enough.

The thing about lunar and nodal returns sounds interesting.

I hope she rests in peace.

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posted July 24, 2011 07:49 AM            

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Sorry,

I hope she rests in peace.

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What do people mean when they say that they hope that someone rests in peace? I don't understand that.

No one really rests in peace. Their energy/soul leaves the body and goes back to the primordial or original world to find out exactly whats going on behind the scenes here. Also, why they came, who they are/have been, did they accomplish what they set out to accomplish on earth, etc

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posted July 24, 2011 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Amy has her ascendant in Scorpio at 17'29 degree also called Degree of Music. She was born to sing but died too soon.

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Where is this info from?

I thought her birthtime was 10.25pm which gives her a 17°Gem ascendant. If the time I have is correct then her natal chart ruler Mercury at 22° Virgo was also squared by the June 15 eclipse. Her progressed Mercury is now at 6°Libra being opposed by tUranus and squared by tPluto.
tMars has just conjuncted the south node position of the June eclipse providing the timing.

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posted July 24, 2011 08:20 AM            

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Her mom gave a time of birth that puts amys Moon in Capricorn and a Gemini Asc. http://www.astrologix.de/forum/ForumID7/1251.html

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posted July 24, 2011 08:24 AM            

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Where is this info from?

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A noon chart. It's wrong.

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posted July 24, 2011 08:25 AM            

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Astrological Man,

"What do people mean when they say that they hope that someone rests in peace?"
It might mean different things for different people.

For me it means that she returns to her spiritual home, or even the life between lives, and I absolutely believe that during the time between incarnations souls are at peace and happy, as they are "home".
And then they are overviewing their last incarnation, just like you described, and planning for the next one.

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posted July 24, 2011 08:31 AM            

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What do people mean when they say that they hope that someone rests in peace? I don't understand that.

No one really rests in peace. Their energy/soul leaves the body and goes back to the primordial or original world to find out exactly whats going on behind the scenes here. Also, why they came, who they are/have been, did they accomplish what they set out to accomplish on earth, etc

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That her spirit is more happier than it was in earthly life? Its really not that profound, I was coming from a place of empathy since she was a talented but tortured soul.

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posted July 24, 2011 08:42 AM            

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Poor thing was getting hammered by transits – progressed moon at 6°Cap.

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posted July 24, 2011 12:47 PM            

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I don't know. Personally for me I had a bad feeling she wasn't going to last long, but didn't think it would happen this soon.

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posted July 24, 2011 02:36 PM            

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Very sad talent gone to waste I really did enjoy her amazing voice
I just read some crap about signing up with the devil and dying at 27 GEEZ the things some people come up with

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posted July 24, 2011 02:37 PM            

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That her spirit is more happier than it was in earthly life? Its really not that profound, I was coming from a place of empathy since she was a talented but tortured soul.

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Why do you say tortured ?

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posted July 24, 2011 03:16 PM            

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she was a great singer and songwriter,she will be missed :/ xxx

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posted July 24, 2011 03:17 PM            

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Why do you say tortured ?

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Was that too strong a word? Fine, I'll use very very troubled instead.

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posted July 25, 2011 01:26 PM            

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Well, the coroner has just announced the results of the autopsy as inconclusive. Histology and toxicology reports expected in October (?).

Looking at her natal and transits, she would not have experienced her return of Saturn for at least another year.
Someone mentioned the Nodes, and sure enough, transiting SN was conjuncting her natal NN in the first, while transiting NN was conj. her SN in the 7th, which was activating her moon/neptune conjunction there. Pluto was directly on her 8th house cusp within minutes on the 23d, squaring transiting Saturn, 5th house, in opposition to Uranus transiting 11th. This right after transiting Pluto conj'd Neptune/moon and squared her natal pluto/saturn in the 6th house of health, and also recently activating by square her Sun/Merc. conj in the 5th. Seems it had a lot to do with her relationships with the men in her life. She must have been in quite a bit of emotional pain, imo.Very hard to recover from all those major hits to be sure.
Also, transiting Mars was directly moving through her first house and was sitting on her natal NN. Maybe an accident? Quite a bit to deal with on an emotional level.
What struck me first about her natal was the 2-planet conjunctions in 4 of her natal houses, but also 6 Quintiles. Already knew she was genius, but wow; that's quite a few quintiles. I noticed all the aspects to Chiron, too. I guess troubled would be a word to use, but haunted was also appropriate. Her Chiron is rx in 12th in Gemini; some sites state it is the house position of a world healer. Would be interesting to see how many do go to rehab as a result of this. I'm still heartbroken as many are. really. Truly wish she could have healed herself. Her part of fortune was in Pisces in her 10th house with Chiron and Neptune transiting there. Wonder if she needed to find the transcendence and a higher idealism and spiritual connection, but wasn't sure how to do that without mind-altering substances. It certainly will be part of her legacy for good now.
I've read too, that Jupiter can be significant during the time people pass over,for Amy it was in the 12th conjuncting her Juno and Sedna. Don't know a lot about asteroids, except Chiron. Natally, Chiron was opposing her Jupiter/Uranus conj. in the 6th. One site described this aspect as "otherworldly" & "having creative abilities". I guess everyone already knew that though.

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posted July 25, 2011 02:32 PM            

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From moonvalleyastrologer: The conjunction of the transiting nodes to the natal nodes also typically times important cyclic events in the life. These connections reflect cataclysmic points in time, similar to the previously described angular contacts. While all events linked to the nodes seem to contain an undertone of karma, these especially point to matters in which others appear to have as much control as the individual in ordering up the events taking place. It is notably preferable to have the nodes lined up on the natal nodal axis as they were at birth to having them interchanged in position. The North Node conjunct North Node often reflects forming relationships and fortunate connections, while the South Node conjunct the North Node indicates broken relationships and unfortunate connections. The latter combination frequently times mishaps, accidents, and unusual circumstances.

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posted July 25, 2011 03:01 PM            

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Quick update.

Darkstar astrology website have got her time of birth and done a whole spread on her, they have done a second article on her synastry with ex boyfriend/husband too.

So time of birth there and on astrotheme too.

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posted July 25, 2011 03:28 PM            

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Avenger2,can u elaborate bit more on quintles?? In general? Their nature and influence,out of ur experience?

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posted July 25, 2011 06:43 PM            

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My mother told me it was because she was on drugs.. :O Nevertheless, It's pretty sad :L I liked her song 'rehab'.

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