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Topic: Singers who die early often before saturn return
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 03:22 PM
Hi all, Amy Winehouse has been found dead, she is a UK singer at 27 she has left us early. They are looking into the reasons why. I loved her music and thought she had genius in her and will miss her. She was a sag sun and virgo moon, proof of how fine a sag sun can be and how talented a virgo moon can be. She sang songs like 'Rehab', Back to Black' etc Anyone know of her, care to comment?
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DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 03:43 PM
Sorry my computer crashed before I could edit it should be virgo sun and sag moon. She has quite a few conjunctions in her chart and saturn conjunct pluto can be tough going. Will miss her. XXx IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2011 03:43 PM
Sad.I donīt really know what to say. This is just sad. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 03:46 PM
mars is leo is a great placement and conjunct venus in leo also a good placement she was both attractive to others and a great showwoman. She was a warm, beautiful light in the sky. xxxIP: Logged |
DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 03:50 PM
Britney Murphy is another singer/actress who left us early, her song faster kill pussycat with oakenfold was a club classic and she was beautiful. Anyway wanted to post as both were positive people in life, gotta go now. xxxIP: Logged |
CancerRising Knowflake Posts: 74 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 23, 2011 03:59 PM
Add to singers, I've known a few people die at 27, it can't be a coincidence.wIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 15670 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 04:19 PM
I loved "Will you Still Love Me Tomorrow" by Amy! She has great heart and soul@Cancer Rising--I got your picture--what a cutie!!!! ------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 04:25 PM
I'd like to discuss it, just that I'm looking at her chart in disbelief and I can't find what hit her. The fact that there is no time of birth is not helping either...IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 04:27 PM
Also, I don't think Saturn return has anything to do with the deaths at 27. The timing is closer to the progressed lunar return which happens at around 28.IP: Logged |
Saraintheski Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 23, 2011 04:28 PM
I just noticed this as soon as I saw that she was 27 ! idk freaky IP: Logged |
DayandNight21 Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: May 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 04:38 PM
I was going to leave this thread out of respect but wanted to clear something up having read responses. Maira I wasn't suggesting Saturn does have anything to do with it, I was noting with the fact that the saturn return happens at 29-30 and she has died before that. There are a group of singers who have died at a young age and that is truly sad. Not sure the lunar return has anything to do with it either. On astrotheme it has her signs and aspects, not sure if tob is AA rated/accurate or not IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic Moderator Posts: 595 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 05:01 PM
Maira - I had the same problem when looking at her chart, nothing was jumping out at me.IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 309 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 05:42 PM
http://www.cainer.com/ IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 05:50 PM
Yes, I know you weren't DayandNight, I was referring to Ceridwen's comment, she mentioned the 27 club and Saturn return. Is mercury stationing yet? I'm having trouble getting my point across on Internet.dysfunctionalmystic, I look the same way to charts, things just "jump" at me. The charts are sometimes "closed" to me when a person does not believe in astrology or does not want me to look at her chart. Maybe she just wants to rest in peace *shrug... IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2617 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 05:57 PM
I am wondering what the outer planets (former grandcross in the sky) were doing to her (though you guys say nothing significant). Of course, I don't want to make assumptions based on her history but I hope she's finally at peace. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic Moderator Posts: 595 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 05:57 PM
Hmmm not sure, her venus is con my sun and there are a few other strong synastry aspects, I got her vibe through okay but not the "death aspect" from the chart. I'll have another look tomorrow, I notied a few people making comments about bailing out before the saturn return but I think it's was too early. It's too early for her to be feeling tr sat con her natal pluto too. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6778 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 06:00 PM
the 27 club are LUNAR returns. saturn is a few years off yet for most at 27. the highly sensitive who make great artists and artistes are highly susceptible to MOON aspects. and her natal moon conj neptune, at GC, doesn't it?should have stuck to NO NO NO - to rehab and drugs too. she was a comet. IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 06:07 PM
Her ascendant might of been cardinal, at 4-5 degrees, that's what I was looking for, the grand cross hitting the chart. I was obsessing over "the 27 club" because I thought the lunar return happens at 28, but it doesn't. It happens at 27. I like the fact that milestones reflect in astrology, it gives the control freak in me the illusion of power. Lunar return happens at 27, Saturn return at 29 and a half, then there's Jupiter something, Pluto square Pluto at 37, Uranus opposite Uranus at 40 and so on. Here's some info on the progressed lunar return and the 27 Club. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203219.html http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/05/the-27-club-and-the-progressed. html IP: Logged |
maira Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 06:08 PM
Thank you katatonic! IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 1247 From: Saturn's Punishment Room ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 07:14 PM
I was also thinking Cardinal Asc... I love her songs... I hate that stupid,creepy,the-best-ones-leave-at-27 club; IP: Logged |
CancerRising Knowflake Posts: 74 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 23, 2011 07:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: @Cancer Rising--I got your picture--what a cutie!!!!
Thank you!!! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 15670 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 23, 2011 07:33 PM
Moon conj Neptune at the GC. My NN is at the GC.Not sure WHAT the GC does to you lol Does anyone know?------------------ It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept. Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand. The Velveteen Rabbit IP: Logged |
winter Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 07:47 PM
Age 27 is also the time of a nodal oppositon...something to think about.Edited to add: The recent June 15 eclipse was conjunct her natal moon neptune conjunction. IP: Logged |
electricmind Knowflake Posts: 923 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 09:27 PM
Age 27 is the progressed Lunar Return. There is an article about it here... http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/05/the-27-club-and-the-progressed.html ------------------ my blog IP: Logged |
carl Knowflake Posts: 736 From: China Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2011 09:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by DayandNight21: They are looking into the reasons why.
Seriously? They don't know why..I think it starts with a D and ends with a g, but probably we need an "s" to make that plural. IP: Logged |