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DayandNight21
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posted July 23, 2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,
Amy Winehouse has been found dead, she is a UK singer at 27 she has left us early. They are looking into the reasons why. I loved her music and thought she had genius in her and will miss her. She was a sag sun and virgo moon, proof of how fine a sag sun can be and how talented a virgo moon can be.
She sang songs like 'Rehab', Back to Black' etc
Anyone know of her, care to comment?

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DayandNight21
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posted July 23, 2011 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry my computer crashed before I could edit it should be virgo sun and sag moon.
She has quite a few conjunctions in her chart and saturn conjunct pluto can be tough going.
Will miss her.
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posted July 23, 2011 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sad.

I donīt really know what to say.
This is just sad.

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DayandNight21
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posted July 23, 2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars is leo is a great placement and conjunct venus in leo also a good placement she was both attractive to others and a great showwoman. She was a warm, beautiful light in the sky.
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DayandNight21
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posted July 23, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Britney Murphy is another singer/actress who left us early, her song faster kill pussycat with oakenfold was a club classic and she was beautiful.
Anyway wanted to post as both were positive people in life, gotta go now.
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posted July 23, 2011 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add to singers, I've known a few people die at 27, it can't be a coincidence.w

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Ami Anne
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posted July 23, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I loved "Will you Still Love Me Tomorrow" by Amy! She has great heart and soul

@Cancer Rising--I got your picture--what a cutie!!!!

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maira
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posted July 23, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to discuss it, just that I'm looking at her chart in disbelief and I can't find what hit her. The fact that there is no time of birth is not helping either...

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maira
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posted July 23, 2011 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I don't think Saturn return has anything to do with the deaths at 27. The timing is closer to the progressed lunar return which happens at around 28.

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Saraintheski
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posted July 23, 2011 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saraintheski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed this as soon as I saw that she was 27 ! idk freaky

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DayandNight21
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posted July 23, 2011 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to leave this thread out of respect but wanted to clear something up having read responses.

Maira

I wasn't suggesting Saturn does have anything to do with it, I was noting with the fact that the saturn return happens at 29-30 and she has died before that. There are a group of singers who have died at a young age and that is truly sad. Not sure the lunar return has anything to do with it either.

On astrotheme it has her signs and aspects, not sure if tob is AA rated/accurate or not

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted July 23, 2011 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maira - I had the same problem when looking at her chart, nothing was jumping out at me.

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posted July 23, 2011 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.cainer.com/

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maira
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posted July 23, 2011 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I know you weren't DayandNight, I was referring to Ceridwen's comment, she mentioned the 27 club and Saturn return. Is mercury stationing yet? I'm having trouble getting my point across on Internet.

dysfunctionalmystic, I look the same way to charts, things just "jump" at me. The charts are sometimes "closed" to me when a person does not believe in astrology or does not want me to look at her chart.
Maybe she just wants to rest in peace *shrug...

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Benedict Moon*
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posted July 23, 2011 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am wondering what the outer planets (former grandcross in the sky) were doing to her (though you guys say nothing significant). Of course, I don't want to make assumptions based on her history but I hope she's finally at peace.

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posted July 23, 2011 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm not sure, her venus is con my sun and there are a few other strong synastry aspects, I got her vibe through okay but not the "death aspect" from the chart. I'll have another look tomorrow, I notied a few people making comments about bailing out before the saturn return but I think it's was too early. It's too early for her to be feeling tr sat con her natal pluto too.

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posted July 23, 2011 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the 27 club are LUNAR returns. saturn is a few years off yet for most at 27. the highly sensitive who make great artists and artistes are highly susceptible to MOON aspects. and her natal moon conj neptune, at GC, doesn't it?

should have stuck to NO NO NO - to rehab and drugs too.

she was a comet.

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maira
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posted July 23, 2011 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her ascendant might of been cardinal, at 4-5 degrees, that's what I was looking for, the grand cross hitting the chart.

I was obsessing over "the 27 club" because I thought the lunar return happens at 28, but it doesn't. It happens at 27. I like the fact that milestones reflect in astrology, it gives the control freak in me the illusion of power. Lunar return happens at 27, Saturn return at 29 and a half, then there's Jupiter something, Pluto square Pluto at 37, Uranus opposite Uranus at 40 and so on.

Here's some info on the progressed lunar return and the 27 Club. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203219.html http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/05/the-27-club-and-the-progressed. html

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maira
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posted July 23, 2011 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you katatonic!

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posted July 23, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was also thinking Cardinal Asc... I love her songs...
I hate that stupid,creepy,the-best-ones-leave-at-27 club;

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posted July 23, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
@Cancer Rising--I got your picture--what a cutie!!!!


Thank you!!!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 23, 2011 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon conj Neptune at the GC.
My NN is at the GC.Not sure WHAT the GC does to you lol
Does anyone know?

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It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept.
Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby.
But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand.
The Velveteen Rabbit

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winter
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posted July 23, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Age 27 is also the time of a nodal oppositon...something to think about.

Edited to add:
The recent June 15 eclipse was conjunct her natal moon neptune conjunction.

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electricmind
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posted July 23, 2011 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Age 27 is the progressed Lunar Return. There is an article about it here...
http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/05/the-27-club-and-the-progressed.html

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posted July 23, 2011 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DayandNight21:

They are looking into the reasons why.



Seriously? They don't know why..

I think it starts with a D and ends with a g, but probably we need an "s" to make that plural.

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