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tuxedoMask
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posted July 28, 2011 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello,

still fresh on the forum but not new to asrtrology.

i posted a rant about a venus link before and now am curious as to how many people have had venus in a challenging aspect to both neptune and chiron? what have your experiences have been like? i have that aspect with someone but their venus falls in my twelfth so i can't quite put my finger on it.. wondered if maybe one of you lovely people would be able to provide some perspective.

thanks!

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posted July 28, 2011 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in short, a song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp1ocS33biA

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posted July 28, 2011 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my experience with this (as the chiron and the neptune) was quite delightful... to be honest though, it was only one date but i felt as if i've known the person for quite a while and believe we have very similar stories..

they had very attractive behaviour to me.

amongst the aspect, we also had other positive one's involved but the person has a moon conjunct pluto (i still don't know much about that aspect) and i'm believing that the aspect in itself, would really create issues dealing with my chiron being in the sign that it's in (cancer).

we had a lovely time, til i decided that maybe it would be best if i went home that night (because we have mars and venus also in conjunction).

the pain i felt was immense!

just leaving and getting in my car (when i didn't want to) felt sooo painful! almost as if i was parting with a very personal part of me, i can't explain it!

the person withdrew even though i made the effort to reach out so that they'd know my rejecting their advances wasn't really rejection, at all..

we got in touch again and had plans to see each other again but i was told that i'd be told when.. very 'up in the air'.

i didn't like it but i respected their decision

i called yesterday, no answer
no call back either
i wrote them today, twice...

i saw that they were online yet didn't read my messages and that's the second time it's been done on their end so i bailed.

i sent them that song and then blocked them so i wouldn't hear back from them and think that even if they were to call, i'd not answer the call because i feel as if i'm puttin a lot of myself out there for them to be playing it safe or playing games (it's what it feels like).

i get back on, their profile is gone.

some part of me was a little hurt by it but the other feels gladly relieved! just being up in the air about things is not my way of doing things (mars in aries); person has mars in pisces (sun, merc, jup, chiron as well) and transit neptune is hovering over that conjunction for them so the very mystical thing itself, made me reject the entire thing.

partly, because of old environments i found myself in and how i then became in such relationships at the time.. a bit similar; i wasn't given the time of day, calls weren't returned, etc, etc.

i can understand somewhat because i saw the transits and progressed/solar return chart and they've got some things happening but saturn is making a trine to venus in both charts and that seemed like their most positive aspect (i don't recall) but flat out what seemed to be 'ignoring', i did not appreciate that not in the least!

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posted July 28, 2011 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and shortly after i blocked them, i received the most peculiar message from what i believe to be some random user: "does it hurt?"..

i never replied.

it may have been said because of the picture in my profile (and their being facetious); the timing though... twas odd.

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posted July 28, 2011 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Completely offtopic,

but WOW, this song is so BEAUTIFUL (in a melancholic gentle sort of way). It strongly resonates with me (I wonder if that is because I have Neptune conjunct Mars and ASC ).

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posted July 28, 2011 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it might've been emphasized if you empathized with what i was feeling. i'm glad you like it. music is a big, big, big thing for me.

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posted July 28, 2011 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(i have the square)

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posted July 30, 2011 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'll tell you guys that the weirdest things are happening.. i was in my room today then started thinking about said person with the venus.. i got ready at the drop of a hat and made my way over there.. took me a while to find the place but since i had no way of getting in touch with venus (they've deleted their profile, i was told they don't carry a phone and calling the house seemed kind of pointless to me); i can't explain it... i felt that i HAD to go over there.

i felt the worst pain!!!! PHYSICAL pain!!!!! my arms were hurting, my actual heart, my hands were shaking.. i don't know what it was but then when i realized i was tuning into their pain, i disconnected from it and it went away..

i made it to the place and i pull into the driveway to see two cars in the garage..

from what i was told, they live with a roommate but i guess ever since the roommate got back (because the roommate was supposed to be out of town), i haven't heard from them so i'm questioning if the 'roommate' is indeed a roommate or not.

i did what anybody else would do i pulled back right away, nearly lost my breath and drove away as fast as i could and went to cvs after driving around like a lost person from being so disoriented and then bought myself a burrito.

a little p!ssed because i hit a rock on my way out of their driveway and dented my friggin bumper!

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posted July 30, 2011 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but i'm wondering, why the hell would u give your house number to someone if you're currently taken? does that seem logical? is it me? or does it seem like this person is asking for some kind of freedom? it's been the second time that i've gotten into someone and they've been already taken and i don't know what it is.. both times, (i'm not even sure if this is is or ISN'T currently taken) their neptune has conjoined my descendant and mine has made a square to something of theirs.. they have my number, or at least did, kinda sucks that it happened like this but i felt we had the most amazing connection but maybe i was just wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy mistaken, idk.

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posted July 30, 2011 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1O8yu1xPvg&feature=related

One of my Manifestations created by The Great Omar Rodriguez Lopez. If you choose to listen, you must succumb to it or run away in fear.

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posted July 30, 2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i'll tell you guys that the weirdest things are happening.. i was in my room today then started thinking about said person with the venus.. i got ready at the drop of a hat and made my way over there.. took me a while to find the place but since i had no way of getting in touch with venus (they've deleted their profile, i was told they don't carry a phone and calling the house seemed kind of pointless to me); i can't explain it... i felt that i HAD to go over there.

i felt the worst pain!!!! PHYSICAL pain!!!!! my arms were hurting, my actual heart, my hands were shaking.. i don't know what it was but then when i realized i was tuning into their pain, i disconnected from it and it went away..

i made it to the place and i pull into the driveway to see two cars in the garage..

from what i was told, they live with a roommate but i guess ever since the roommate got back (because the roommate was supposed to be out of town), i haven't heard from them so i'm questioning if the 'roommate' is indeed a roommate or not.

i did what anybody else would do i pulled back right away, nearly lost my breath and drove away as fast as i could and went to cvs after driving around like a lost person from being so disoriented and then bought myself a burrito.


I went to CVS today too

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posted July 30, 2011 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
I went to CVS today too

that's hawt
what's that omar guy about?
my north node is in pisces

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posted July 30, 2011 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ill tell you the one time, my venus was in someones 12th.. There was a DEEP fear of rejection.. I would have done anything for him.. EXCEPT for one thing.. tell him how I felt... Under no circumstances would I admit any feelings to him.

Even if he walked up and asked me. I would still say Nope.. no feelings.. sorry...
even though I did.. The fear was extremely intense.. IT consumed me.

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posted July 30, 2011 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have succumbed

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posted July 30, 2011 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have succumbed

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posted July 30, 2011 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Ill tell you the one time, my venus was in someones 12th.. There was a DEEP fear of rejection.. I would have done anything for him.. EXCEPT for one thing.. tell him how I felt... Under no circumstances would I admit any feelings to him.

Even if he walked up and asked me. I would still say Nope.. no feelings.. sorry...
even though I did.. The fear was extremely intense.. IT consumed me.


this really sucks...

because that's actually what i'd need to hear from them!

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posted July 30, 2011 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm so pis$ed!!!
i'm annoyed
i'm about go go off at the drop of a hat
to the point of not even caring if whether or not they're involved with someone or not and just knocking on their door, getting it all over with! and then i'm torn between possibly screwing things up for them and not giving a damn!

i rationalize it, but the rationalization just doesn't even seem rational itself!

would i be able to do whatever it is that 'mate' does for them in terms of stability?

what if they're happy and i was just something on the side to enjoy one weekend?

this is so annoying!

what's more annoying is the fact that i can't do anything about it!!!!!!!!

literally, they have no cell phone! completely got rid of it, they told me they don't want to be contacted by anyone.. i have the house number, i called, somebody else picked up rather than the person i'd anticipated so i never said anything and they hung up.. did i block my number? no, because i don't care! what can i do? be the jack to their rose and offer them bread and water?

second time something like this has happened and both times it's been because of my age, where i am in life more precisely THIS IS SUCH COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSH!TTTTT!!!!!!!!!

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posted July 30, 2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 12, 2011 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey tuxedomask first off let me say love the name.

i really enjoy reading most of your threads you have a great way about you especialy since you are able to express your feelings and emotions in such a way that makes you seem vulnerable i wish i could express myself that way.

sorry to hear about this person who doesnt seem to be intrested in you its a shame i bet this person does not know what their missing.

i was wondering if you know their info maybe put up a chart and do a synastry chart just to see if we can figure out what is going on with this other person. who knows maybe we can figure why she is leaving you high and dry.

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posted August 12, 2011 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's kind of a great idea.. i guess... let me go ahead and do the work now, brb...

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posted August 12, 2011 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, i could post their chart..

but i'm not posting mine... lol.

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posted August 12, 2011 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this person has mars in pisces and venus in aries. i also have this combination and i have to admit i do act the way you say they do.
here is an interpretation for you.

You're a little hard to figure out. On the one hand, you can be quite blunt when it comes to self-expression in love. On the other, you can be sensitive and impressionable. In bed, you require a warm, sentimental, and sensuous partner or else you feel a little insecure, yet your romantic manner is spontaneous and direct. Confusing? Absolutely! But you are also very intriguing--a beguiling mix of independence and neediness. Your ideal partner recognizes that love and attraction keep you feeling alive and vital, so a relationship that has lost its spark will cause you to lose yours. Your romantic nature is moody, volatile, and dramatic at times! You may be flirtatious, yet you also maintain a certain level of caution and reserve. One day, you give of yourself fully, and the next day you are independent and seemingly not needy. You are a study in contradictions on a romantic level�you are both vulnerable and outspoken, for example. While you are sensitive, you can also �say it like it is� and upset a sensitive partner. You are uninterested in superficial relationships. You require a certain amount of depth, yet you are not always willing to open up. Although you are very romantic, you are also prone to fighting your emotions in an attempt to keep love at bay. This never completely works, however! Your passions are strong and sometimes extreme. Your lover is bound to find you a real challenge, simply because he/she doesn�t know what to expect. What your partner CAN be sure of, however, is that you are passionate and never boring!

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posted August 12, 2011 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
o~m~g, plz.. aas far as me and they are concerned, i got more than enough passion for the both of us!

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posted August 12, 2011 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow i am loving that mars and venus conjunction in your synastry.

sexually that brings heat passion unbridled lust and just the feeling of intense sexual energy.
from your posts i can tell you really find this person attractive and want to be with them sexually so badly.

i just wish i knew where her venus fell in your chart. but without the correct birthtime i dont know.

sometimes i find that if someone is really aggressive in some way its offputting. maybe she feels like your coming on too strong especially with that pisces mars.she might prefer a really emotonal shy tender person.

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posted August 12, 2011 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, thank u so much for this

for their placements in my chart, that birth time for the second one is accurate so the answer would be in the twelfth... :/

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