posted September 03, 2011 05:13 PM            

Everything is still complicated and I have done my best to keep a distance. Mr Leo apologised many times for his recent behaviour where he let me down and said he should never have treated me the way he did. He says he is all messed up and doesn't know what he is doing right now. All areas of his life is being questioned (relationship, job etc). I told him I was sorry I was harsh and I do understand.

BUT, at the same time, I am too nice at times (libra venus/mars) but my leo moon was kinda wounded by him recently and with the history with my ex Mr Aries/Scorpio moon, I am still healing a little. Am I being too critical? Part of me wishes to walk away now and not look back but the other part wishes to support and be there.

posted September 03, 2011 06:24 PM            

Feel free to totally disregard that. Yes I'd be flustered at the above, but he'll respect you more if you can just accept it and forgive him and move past it. You should know that you don't deserve to be blown off but many people don't know how to treat other people well enough to communicate and treat others in the more appropriate ways that everyone deserves to be treated. If he doesn't know how to reciprocate the respect and courtesy then take notes and be there in the ways that you can while still maintaining a healthy relationship in the ways that you can.

Maybe it'll be a while but true love finds you when you truly love and find yourself.

posted September 25, 2011 12:02 PM            

So it's been a little while and I worked on myself and was feeling much happier with all aspects, work, friendships, home etc. I had maintained a light friendship with Mr Leo and didn't have contact for last few weeks until he calls me after he has broken up with his gf. He wants to meet for coffee so we meet and chat about the break up and he is wondering what decisions to make etc.

But somehow we ended up in a huge fight and I feel terrible about it cause I don't know how it happened. He had invited me to a small party and we were talking just us two and drinking a little. He is cut up about his ex gf, feels used and heartbroken so I am being supportive and trying to help. Suddenly, it is like he roars and started being horrible about women in general and got up and was being aggressive and I stupidly defended myself and said stop yelling at me like I am all the women who have hurt you.

Then I go to leave cause I have a flight to catch the next morning and I had got tearful cause I hate being yelled at. So we go to say bye outside the apartment and he had heard some news of his ex gf adding a guy to facebook who she had previously slept with so Mr leo was really angry and when I tried to apologise for earlier, he started on me saying why did i hang around him when he had a gf (he addded me and got my number initially) and said if he and i wanted to sleep together, we should just go do it. He said he is not interested in me and that I am immature.

Gosh, it was ALL his anger and frustration came pouring out at me and then he slammed the door in my face.
I understand how wounded he is and upset he is right now so the next day i wrote a text before getting on the plane and apologised for the awful argument and said i understand his position and that he is hurt, but I wished he hadn't spoken to me the way he did but as a friend I wanted to the best so will respect that he obviously wants no contact and will leave him be.

I think my saggie foot in the mouth came out and I am fiery too and there has been tension between us for weeks but somehow he blamed me for everything.

I feel like i screwed up but don't think I can make it any better

posted September 25, 2011 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
All that you touch
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy beg, borrow or steal
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say
All that you eat
Everyone you meet
All that you slight
Everyone you fight
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
And everything under the sun is in tune
But the sun is eclipsed by the moon.

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The odd part is I was just thinking about this the other day, which is totally random I know. Yeah, I know people wax rhapsodic about the moon, but frankly the moon has no light of its own, but what the sun gives it in the first place; without the sun's energy burning, creating light and bouncing off of the moon, you wouldn't even know the moon existed in the first place. The moon is dependent on the sun to even demonstrate its existence in the first place.

posted September 26, 2011 10:09 AM            

Am away for work at the moment and suddenly today had some perspective. I've met new people through my job, people who do the same job as me (international recruitment) and I see how my life at home is surrounded by people who are always moving on, uncertain about their lives (Mr Leo situation is classic example, people are so fluid where I live and not stable).

I met a guy who is on the tour with me and he is British and loves travel! And he and i have similar backgrounds and experiences and it is so refreshing to have a taste of what else is out there

posted September 29, 2011 06:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I'm really not sure why everyone got hung up on "hiding" things..

That's not what I meant.

Darn Mercury R.

IMO Masculine signs are *overt*.. They do not hide things in this manner.. (not usually).
MintGirl - What you described is more classic for a feminine sun sign or a person with strong feminine influence.

What I meant was --- Lets say a Leo person goes through a bad situation.. Their reaction is usually not: -

"oh no! woe is me.. Ima sit in this corner now and be depressed."

OR

"oh no - woe is me.. Ima sit in a corner and be depressed -- WHEN - no one is watching... & pretend I'm find the rest of the time"

No. Their reaction is more like "Right - So **** happens.. This was crap.. Sometimes I cry about it --- but you know what? Overall life is good! I'm still me. I'm OK."

They have so much inner/fiery energy and always shine their light on the world.
That's what I see as a strength.
Not to "hide" negativity... But to actually erase it and actually BE positive in the midst of a difficult time.

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posted September 29, 2011 07:08 AM            

Anyway, I am just spenidng time working out how to be treated etc and sometimes this involves having bad experiences.

posted October 01, 2011 05:06 AM            

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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
If there is one sign that I do not like. It is the Leo. I am sorry. I just cannot deal with Leo's. They think that they own the world. Merely kittens are they.

Leo signs with a Scorpio Moon are impossible to deal with.

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posted October 01, 2011 05:20 AM            

Do you remember the part in Love Signs about Leo's and Saggies? We are not all destined to fall in love. Sometimes we boo and hiss at the big cat and sometimes we fall in love. It all depends.

I was once with a Leo like yours and he was very complicated and he was horrible. Before that time I often fought with Leos. They can be very arrogant and off-putting but I believe that in youth we are all like that (fire signs). I grew up with Leos and Water signs. Even my dad (Cappy) is full of water and my brother (another saggie) has more water than me.

What I found is that Leos are very emotional and as young cubs.. they are unpredicable... just...like...the Archers...

I met Bear the Leo later in life (36 years of age I was) We got married within 6 months and it has been good and bad. Leos are tempermental but loving. Our bad comes from his many deployments to Iraq but we manage. Now we are dealing with PTSD and TBI (traumatic brain injury) from his deployments. He has changed but not so much that he is not his true Leo self.

A good Leo may play a few games but ultimately they will chase YOU when they want YOU. If not, they will play with you. The Leo you speak of is not ready, he is playing and sadly you were the brunt of whatever stupid game he was participating in. I've been there and I got hurt but he hurt more than me when I told him to go pound sand.

What a Leo fears the most is losing what they love. When they love they love hard, even harder than a Saggie if you can believe that LOL.. But they do. As far as support, they NEED it. The worst thing you can do, if really involved with a Leo, is let them "work it out on their own". They are too needy for that (and by "that" I mean, you are trusted so don't let them down".

posted October 01, 2011 12:33 PM            

I'll get the bad out of the way first. The worst Leo that I knew is someone that I would honestly call 'truly evil', which isn't a label that I casually apply to people. This Leo would force people to do what he wanted, even when they said no and were very clearly uncomfortable. This Leo was selfish, arrogant, had some really offensive views, felt that everyone owed him everything, took other people's ideas and passed them off (or tried to) as his own, was really snobbish, and took advantage of others.

One good Leo that I know is a highly compassionate person (to a fault at times). I'm not at all close to this Leo, and we're not friends exactly, but I get the impression that this is the type of Leo who looks out for the helpless.

So, I'd say that a good Leo will be the 'noble king' type of Leo: someone who is generous, gregarious, warm-hearted, courageous (not to the point of being stupid, though, and I also mean courageous emotionally as well as courageous in other ways). A good Leo appreciates the finer things without going to extremes. A good Leo appreciates beauty but will always remain faithful to his partner.

A bad Leo will treat people like his subjects and will act like a ruthless dictator type of 'king'. A bad Leo will not care about anyone else and will think himself so far above others when he has nothing to be conceited about. A bad Leo will seduce even if he is taken. Bad Leos feel that the world owes them everything and that they are entitled to do whatever they please, no matter who they hurt.

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*I use the whole sign system*

Libra Sun, Mercury
Scorpio Venus
Capricorn Mars
Cancer Moon

posted October 02, 2011 10:09 AM            

Lovely to hear from you! I remember you as Pidaua? I think you described what I was thinking or feeling very cleary. Neediness was a characterisitc of this Mr Leo as I was helping him with job applications and I did not wish to leave him with no support but he was very mean in the fight and I was overreacting slightly by deleting him from facebook and then leaving the country for work.

I have a feeling when I am back, he may apologise but despite it all, he is not ready at all. Whilst on my work trip I met a lovely guy who made me laugh all the time, he is also a Leo (funnily enough) but is older but still young I guess at 29. I am 27. He and I got on very well, as friends. We had long deep and meaningful talks about family, life, our expectations etc. What a contrast to my experience just before leaving for this trip. It is helping me to make clear in my mind what I deserve or at least expect. It's hard to be saggie, cause I feel so strong and independent but diue to family issues, I am not always so strong. It was nice to meet a guy who made me laugh and was sweet and that's a good lesson.

All the best,

posted October 06, 2011 04:57 PM            

I wasn't expecting this. I never got an apology during the two years I was with Mr Aries.