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Ami Anne
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posted August 22, 2011 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna give my input Ceri.Please correct me always!
That is how we learn .It is an opportunity for me and I welcome it greatly

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posted August 22, 2011 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by northernlad:
I've got the ruler of the 5th, 6th and 10th (all Venus) in the 5th.

OK NL
I will take a stab at you
You are a player you Bad Boy !

R of 5 in 5
Romance ,fun and creativity is very important to you
Your needs for service can be met through play ,romance etc
Your career may be one that embodies fun or hobbies.

Take it away Ceri


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posted August 22, 2011 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Hmm, I'm not a materialistic person. Have no car (not even a drivers license). My ugly old bike is enough for me.
I hate to wear make up and I feel uncomfortable in fancy clothing. Don't get me wrong, my dressing style is very important to me but it must be weird and different rather than fashionable. i love it when the colors don't mix. Awlays better to be underdressed than overdressed imo. Except for work. I always dress very neat and appropriate there.
Some of the points are very accurate though...from projecting intellectuality to success. I do see that in myself.

Oh, I've just noticed that one of my house rulers is wrong! My 9th house ruler is in the 10th not in the 1st. It's the 12th house ruler that's in the first.



9th HR in 10th
You will bring your intellect to your career.You will have a career that uses your intellect. What do you think Ceri?

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posted August 22, 2011 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious to hear what other's views/personal experiences are with:

1) Ruler of the 11th in 12H.
2) Ruler of the 8th in 1H.
3) Ruler of the 10th in 4H.


Ami,

Great topic of discussion!
I agree with Ceridwen with all those rulers in the 1H, it IS the personality. For me, it's an inherent NEED to express myself as XYZ-planets. It's definitely not a WANT to be like XYZ. I would compare it to the moon, where "needs vs. wants," then needs rings true.

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posted August 22, 2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Agent_009:
I'm curious to hear what other's views/personal experiences are with:

1) Ruler of the 11th in 12H.
2) Ruler of the 8th in 1H.
3) Ruler of the 10th in 4H.


Ami,

Great topic of discussion!
I agree with Ceridwen with all those rulers in the 1H, it IS the personality. For me, it's an inherent NEED to express myself as XYZ-planets. It's definitely not a WANT to be like XYZ. I would compare it to the moon, where "needs vs. wants," then needs rings true.



Agent
What do you mean with the moon and needs vs wants? Thanks

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posted August 22, 2011 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Agent_009:
I'm curious to hear what other's views/personal experiences are with:

1) Ruler of the 11th in 12H.
2) Ruler of the 8th in 1H.
3) Ruler of the 10th in 4H.


Ami,

Great topic of discussion!
I agree with Ceridwen with all those rulers in the 1H, it IS the personality. For me, it's an inherent NEED to express myself as XYZ-planets. It's definitely not a WANT to be like XYZ. I would compare it to the moon, where "needs vs. wants," then needs rings true.


I will try it.

R of 11 in 12
The groups you choose will be mystical ones.

8-1
You wear your deepest emotions on your sleeve. You show the deep inside you as a matter of course. You are not able to hide it as many people do.

10-4
Your career could be home based. You could work out of your home.You could have a career in "home" things such as interior design or real estate or catering etc

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posted August 22, 2011 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for northernlad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK NL
I will take a stab at you
You are a player you Bad Boy !

R of 5 in 5
Romance ,fun and creativity is very important to you
Your needs for service can be met through play ,romance etc
Your career may be one that embodies fun or hobbies.

Take it away Ceri



Moi? A player? I don't think so. If I was a player I think I'd at least be getting a little action. I'm too 7th house/Cancer heavy.

I will say, though, that I'm a person who tends to make their own fun when there doesn't seem to be any to be had.

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posted August 23, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Glad you are joining the discuss SS
You could make money from intellectual,philosophical or religious endeavors

Does it fit?


Yes it does fit. I've always thought about being a journalist and travel the globe,study and write about different countries, cultures, and religions. I also spent my whole childhood travelling

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posted August 23, 2011 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

I was just giving my thoughts, as everyone else here. Doesn`t mean I have the ultimate answers. Though of course I`m only saying things I believe in.
But it`s not my place to "correct" anyone, just maybe give another opinion, another perspective now and then.

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posted August 23, 2011 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Agent
What do you mean with the moon and needs vs wants? Thanks



I'm not Agent_009, but I think I can respond to your question. The moon represents our instinctual urges. Generally, we go after what we "want", desire, so it's connected to the ego - thus to the Sun, Mars and Venus. What the moon "wants" is not ego related, it's something deeply ingrained in the psyche and we could not even know we need it (I seem to remember we share an unaspected moon, am I right?).

An example: say you have a Moon - Sun/Mars opposition in the natal, the moon is in Libra and the Sun/Mars is in Aries to better illustrate my point. The Sun/Mars wants conflict to express itself, to feel good and alive. But the Moon needs to compromise, to see the others points of view, to share. In the end, Aries and Libra are the same, they both want it "their" way, I'm just talking about apparent peace. So until the opposition is integrated, this person who has this opposition in the natal will always feel this inner conflict as "need" versus "wants".
I remember reading that squares are sources of conflict that would go unresolved but that one can integrate oppositions.

Also, I fully agree with Ceridwen on what was said about the Ascendant / 1st house.

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Ami Anne
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posted August 23, 2011 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ami,

I was just giving my thoughts, as everyone else here. Doesn`t mean I have the ultimate answers. Though of course I`m only saying things I believe in.
But it`s not my place to "correct" anyone, just maybe give another opinion, another perspective now and then.



The goal is for everyone to learn and everyone to have a good time doing it.
I did not mean to put you under any obligation to correct me.I allowed the opening for it only by my words.
So,lets just go on and see what we can find -each in his own way!

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Ami Anne
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posted August 23, 2011 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Yes it does fit. I've always thought about being a journalist and travel the globe,study and write about different countries, cultures, and religions. I also spent my whole childhood travelling


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posted August 23, 2011 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesSun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've 5th, 7th and 8th house ruler in 1st house Pisces and Sun ruler is there too!

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posted August 23, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesSun:
I've 5th, 7th and 8th house ruler in 1st house Pisces and Sun ruler is there too!

OK Let me think
ARe you a Cassanova? Do you "seduce" easily--just askin
Do you want your partner to look good on your arm lol
Do you find yourself talking easily and readily about taboo things?

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posted August 23, 2011 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

The rulers of my 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th and 8th houses are in the second house.

I am having some difficulty in understanding this, as I am neither interested in money nor in any type of wordly possessions... on the contrary, I don't want to 'own' anything, I want to feel FREE (as few material obligations as possible). I don't quite get the 2nd house descriptions I have read (I have Sun, Uranus and Pluto there).

I do need a LOT of security, though... I have a legal right to live in my home for ever (I don't own it, but it's a special kind of deal) plus I have never taken a loan in my life, instead I have some savings to make me feel secure if I lose my income etc. I also always need to have money saved if I should want to travel away from it all (work, relationships etc.)... I do see that in my strong 2nd house. Maybe Uranus there (losely conjunt with Sun) is about my not desiring to own anything?

But I still don't understand the emphasis in my chart on the 2nd house.

~ Lana (Virgo Sun, Leo ASC)

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posted August 23, 2011 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LanaofAugust:
The rulers of my 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th and 8th are in the second house.

I am having some difficulty in understanding this, as I am neither interested in money nor any type wordly possessions... on the contrary, I don't want to 'own' anything, I want to feel FREE. I don't quite get the 2nd house descriptions (I have Sun, Uranus and Pluto there).

~ Lana (Virgo Sun, Leo ASC)


Hmm
Interesting
I will write out what I think.You comment.
1st,2nd, 5th and 7th in 2nd

OK One of your main goals would be material things
Again --this would be indicated by 2 in 2nd
You will look to hobbies and creative things to make money
You will BRING money to your partner.


What do you think
Self esteem can be indicated by the 2nd but I really think it IS the material world which is the traditional explanation
What do you think Lana?


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posted August 23, 2011 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LanaofAugust:
The rulers of my 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th and 8th are in the second house.

I am having some difficulty in understanding this, as I am neither interested in money nor any type wordly possessions... on the contrary, I don't want to 'own' anything, I want to feel FREE. I don't quite get the 2nd house descriptions (I have Sun, Uranus and Pluto there).

~ Lana (Virgo Sun, Leo ASC)


Hmm
Interesting
I will write out what I think.You comment.
1st,2nd, 5th and 7th in 2nd

OK One of your main goals would be material things
Again --this would be indicated by 2 in 2nd
You will look to hobbies and creative things to make money
You will BRING money to your partner.


Self esteem can be indicated by the 2nd but I really think it IS the material world which is the traditional explanation
What do you think Lana?

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posted August 23, 2011 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lana
Planets and aspects modify HR.What would modify them in your chart?

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posted August 23, 2011 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Amy and thanks for your response :-)

(I just added some info in my first post - sorry, I have a bad habit of editing like that).

No, your analysis is not correct in any way... I just don't get the money part with that house. I am not interested in making money at all, I only want to feel free and read books and travel ;-)

I do know that I was born talented in several fields (2nd house "possessions"). But the house rulers of all those houses that represent so different areas of life, I just can't grasp that... I am trying to. I know that I have underestimated my need for inner security before, but it does not come through EXTRA money to me, I only need money to pay my most necessary bills (I live in a small aparment and hate shopping, LOL).

Due to the increasing inflation in my country I am also thinking about spending all my savings before the inflation eats everything.

So the money part is lost on me.

~ Lana

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posted August 23, 2011 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
I'll start first

I'm still a bit confused about how my 9th house ruler (Sun) in 12th works


i see as the whatever related to 9 houses issues serve the purpose of the 12. for instance, you can go to jail for your phylosopy or religion views (extreme) or this is something that create you secret enemies. your phyloso[hy of life can be your own enemy...

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posted August 23, 2011 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I googled quickly, and this rings true to me, though:

Ruler of the 1st in the 2nd house:
Creating your own sense of liberty and freedom largely depends on how well you handle your financial security issues.

Ruler of the 2nd in the 2nd house:
Your finances play an important role with regards to your personal sense of freedom. Money buys options in life and therefore a degree of liberty.
You may also have inherited certain talents which can help increase your cash flow if tapped into and developed.

Ruler of the 5th in the 2nd house:
If you are a highly creative person then most likely these are inherited talents. Recreational activities and creative projects are part of your value system.

Ruler of the 7th in the 2nd house:
You'll find that your spouse or your closest friends often share the same value system.

Ruler of the 8th in the 2nd house:
Other people's money or resources can strengthen your own financial picture. Other people's values can influence your own value system. The field of metaphysics could be a source of income for you. Deep intimate bonding with another person is something you feel strongly about. You tend to bond with others emotionally as well as sexually and it's difficult for you to separate these feelings.

http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

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posted August 23, 2011 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting Lana
Thank you

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posted August 23, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Let me ask you this.
Ruler of 12th in 9th
Would THIS make the person able to write about the mystical world?


I suspect that a person with this placement is able to see their calamities in life with perspective and with a philosophical or religios interpretation. secret enemies can help to wide views.

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posted August 23, 2011 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome Amy - I love your input here and your positive spirit :-)

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posted August 23, 2011 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lana,

2nd house is more about what you value and need to feel safe and secure. Money is just one expression of it, and might have played a bigger role in past historic periods, especially for women.
Today I see it more like the values one person has.
Also I read that, as part of the axis 2nd-8th house, it might indicate, how or what of yourself you give into a sexual or at least intimate relationship. To give something of you that way, you have to feel safe of course.
2nd house also often has to do with the extension of your physique, body, eating pattern, clothing style etc. At least that is what I read.

I have Moon in 2nd house, and I have the similiar attitude towards money as you have I guess. It`s not important as long as ther eis enough to pay the bills and make me secure enough to enjoy my life.

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