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Topic: House Rulers--Lets Talk
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sand Knowflake Posts: 975 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 12:36 PM
that's interesting cer. what's ur take on a 2nd house uranus? ruler is in third. i have aqua in the 4th. ruler of that is uranus in 2nd of course. unless it's saturn then if so that's in the 1st.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 19051 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by LanaofAugust: You are welcome Amy - I love your input here and your positive spirit :-)
Thank you Lana That means a lot to me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 19051 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 01:38 PM
That is interesting about 2nd house Ceri.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 19051 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 01:39 PM
I am wondering WHEN one does house rulers how would one know if it was money or a more symbolic or "higher" level need? That would be hard.What do you think Ceri or anyone?------------------ Do You Think This Psychic Is Cute? http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 02:31 PM
Ami,I think it`s important to start with the underlying symbolism and be aware that the specific expression of that symbolism have a certain range. I am not sure we can really say for sure if or when something means "money", though probably if there are several indicators for that it might become more likely. (don`t ask me what these indicators are, I am not really well versed when it comes to money-astrology ). IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 02:46 PM
Sand,so Uranus, as ruler of 4th in 2nd house? Well, Uranus is always an interesting one, as he likes to shake up things and react unexpectedly. If you look at the connected houses 4th and 2nd, which relate to Moon/Cancer and Venus/Taurus, it is very obvious that their symbolism and Uranus are quite a bit apart from each other. Anyway, 4th house is the emotional needs, and these are directed towards the 2nd house of values and security. I think that emotional security would be very important, but since Uranus is the connector, what gives you emotional security might be different from what others would consider as important or necessary. To stay healthy and feeling good about yourself you need to be true to your feelings, no matter how unconventional (Uranus) they sometimes may appear. The fourth house is about emotional needs, and the 2nd house is also very sensual, so usually I would say that emotional warmth and sensuality and feeling the physical proxmity to a loved one is necessary to feel emotionally safe and belonging. BUT here it is Uranus, so I am not sure how much closeness you really can deal with. Maybe there is something different or unorthodox about the things that give you a feeling of "home". Maybe intellectual stimulation gives you that emotional satisfaction, or sharing certain ideals or having the feeling of being loved and cared for and respected despite a need for independence and freedom. Also with Uranus in 2nd house, the value system (and attitude to money as well) might be unusal, or there may be much fluctuation. Aquarius on the IC maybe signals some kind of unusual roots / family/ home. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 19051 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Ami,I think it`s important to start with the underlying symbolism and be aware that the specific expression of that symbolism have a certain range. I am not sure we can really say for sure if or when something means "money", though probably if there are several indicators for that it might become more likely. (don`t ask me what these indicators are, I am not really well versed when it comes to money-astrology ).
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 03:02 PM
Thank you, Ami.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 975 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 04:01 PM
much thanks ceridwen! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 04:18 PM
Anything rang true, or all far far off the mark. With Uranus you never know, you know? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 975 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 05:00 PM
Anyway, 4th house is the emotional needs, and these are directed towards the 2nd house of values and security. I think that emotional security would be very important, but since Uranus is the connector, what gives you emotional security might be different from what others would consider as important or necessary.i connect with this. i guess i'd feel emotionally secure when finances are good. strangely i don't think i'm that odd from the normal person's necessities. like sure i think owning a house makes me feel secure. BUT THEN i do buy art more than flatscreens, iphones, even cars etc... i guess that might seem kinda strange LOL! The fourth house is about emotional needs, and the 2nd house is also very sensual, so usually I would say that emotional warmth and sensuality and feeling the physical proxmity to a loved one is necessary to feel emotionally safe and belonging. BUT here it is Uranus, so I am not sure how much closeness you really can deal with. i guess this one's a rather good one.. i need a lot of it especially as i'm a sun/ venus in taurus. BUT THEN i want to go home eventually and get some rest LOL! i'm not used to sleeping beside someone so im WIDE AWAKE and staring at the ceiling. i'd hafta be really really tired to be able to do that. Maybe there is something different or unorthodox about the things that give you a feeling of "home". Maybe intellectual stimulation gives you that emotional satisfaction, or sharing certain ideals or having the feeling of being loved and cared for and respected despite a need for independence and freedom. this one not so much. i have no air signs ehehe! ideas, philosophies are not exactly my favorite things to talk about. but if you mean someone more into the art/ taurus stuff then yeah i like that. true i guess about the ideals/ love part and the last few lines. Also with Uranus in 2nd house, the value system (and attitude to money as well) might be unusal, or there may be much fluctuation. Aquarius on the IC maybe signals some kind of unusual roots / family/ home. the way i spend is soo taurus. very similar to the other taurus people i know. so maybe fluctuations yes. and yes too on the aqua ic, eccentricity does run in the family. though sometimes depending on system my ic falls on 29' capricorn. can't say i had a cold childhood tho. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 05:18 PM
Sand,thanks for the feedback. Of course the whole chart has to be taken into account. Also I donīt think Aquarius/Uranus always means a cold childhood (though there could be more detachment than some children can deal with emotionally); it also depends on the aspects Uranus makes or the general composition of the chart. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 975 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 05:21 PM
mine doesn't make any major ones ehehe! but yes i think you found te perfect word i was a bit detached as a kid coz i had my own room. i wasn't alone lotsa peole in the house always even today but i was left alone to do whatever. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 19051 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 05:29 PM
I think the thing about house rulers is it is one layer only. The chart is multi,multi layered. When the chart rulers do not "work" some other layer is superimposing. Likewise when the planets and aspects don't "work "another layer is superimposing. I don't know if anyone understands what I am saying lol------------------ Do You Think This Psychic Is Cute? http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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sand Knowflake Posts: 975 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 05:35 PM
you think? i'm sure i can relate them somehow just hafta find the right reading. i go alot to astrofix for house rulers coz i may not relate to something supers specific but i usually find something general to relate to there. just an example and a link for others. i'm sure you can navigate around the site for other houses. http://astrofix.net/category/series-rulers-of-houses-in-houses/ IP: Logged |
LanaofAugust Knowflake Posts: 199 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 02:04 AM
Thank you so much Ceridwen for your comments. :-) "2nd house also often has to do with the extension of your physique, body, eating pattern, clothing style etc" That makes sense, as it's the house of Taurus. To further comment on Amy's analysis: 2nd house IMO is not about goals, but about being or already having. ~ Lana IP: Logged |
AriesSun Knowflake Posts: 110 From: the red planet Registered: Jan 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 08:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: OK Let me think ARe you a Cassanova? Do you "seduce" easily--just askin Do you want your partner to look good on your arm lol Do you find yourself talking easily and readily about taboo things?
Well yes i seduce quite easily and i can be seduced quite easily too.. But casanova.. it's in tight conjunction to my lilith LOL! Okay i have to say i can be a bit bad and just now this casanova-Me is pumping up quite well! but it's also conjunct to my saturn as well as my lilith so i can control it and i don't seduce just anyone i'm choosing! And that casanova is in 12th house so.. And like to talk about taboos, yes! But i don't talk about those when there is people around who watch me like i'm a stupid when talking something like that IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 975 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 11:49 AM
i didn't know there was a casanova asteeroid! coolness! mine is in the 5th conjunct lilith (BML) too. (Psst ami whatit mean? ) cary grant opposes my moon tho and squares my venus eheheh! yeah that cassanova fellow is indeed an aries sun. always wanting to move forward. i thought he was libra coz he could mirror or a scorpio because he would transform and be so concentrated on the object of desire. but yeah aries most definitely. would be interesting to see a great seducers thread both mean and women but i can't list that many historically. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 161 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 12:04 PM
Lana,I`m glad you could relate to my comments on 2nd house. I`t`s always been a puzzling house for me and difficult to interprete.
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eternallyoptimistic Knowflake Posts: 58 From: Jupiter Registered: Jun 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 10:45 PM
How about the ruler (Saturn retrograde) of the 11th and 12th houses in the 3rd? Linked houses work together.IP: Logged |