posted August 28, 2011 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
What's your interp of Neptune on the node? Spiritual journey of sorts?

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Sure…..let's call it a spiritual journey.

Honestly, I have no idea what tr Neptune on SA Node could mean, it could be nothing because after all SA are directions and I've more than once read/seen/heard/picked up from somewhere that they are NOT affected by transits but they surely do apply with my own chart so I tend to notice them in others.

That SA Asc = Saturn in a critical degree getting a direct hit from a solar eclipse next November doesn't bode well.

posted August 29, 2011 01:48 AM            

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Jobs’ health has had an unusually direct impact on Apple, as the company is closely intertwined with his vision and force of personality, and news of his medical battles have caused its stock to fluctuate with investors’ nervousness.

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posted August 29, 2011 01:50 AM            

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October 2003: Jobs is diagnosed with cancer in his pancreas and tries to treat the illness by switching to a special diet to avoid surgery, according to a 2008 article in Fortune magazine citing people familiar with the matter. Apple decides not to tell investors after consulting lawyers, the magazine said.

Aug. 1, 2004: Jobs, then 49, discloses the cancer for the first time, saying he had successful surgery to extract the tumor. The operation removed the cancer in time and he won’t require chemotherapy or radiation, Jobs says. Cook runs the company until Jobs returns to work in September.

June 12, 2005: Jobs talks about his fight with cancer during a commencement speech at Stanford University. He says he was diagnosed about a year earlier and that doctors told him he wouldn’t live longer than six months. The cancer turned out to be treatable with surgery “and I’m fine now,” he says.

June 9, 2008: Jobs, while introducing the iPhone 3G at Apple’s developers’ conference, appears thinner and frail. The company blames a “common bug.”

July 21, 2008: Responding to concerns about Jobs’s appearance, Apple says he has no plans to leave the company and that his health is a private matter. Investors aren’t reassured, and the shares fall 10 percent.

July 23, 2008: The New York Times reports that Jobs has been telling associates and Apple’s board he is cancer-free. Jobs had a surgical procedure earlier in the year to address a problem that contributed to his weight loss, the newspaper reports, citing unnamed people close to the executive.

Sept. 9, 2008: Jobs, introducing new iPod media players at an event in San Francisco, still looks thin. “Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated,” Jobs jokes.

Dec. 16, 2008: Apple says Jobs won’t give his usual speech at the Macworld conference. Jobs had used the forum to introduce new products for 11 straight years.

Jan. 5, 2009: Jobs says he has a hormone imbalance, causing him to lose weight. Jobs vows to remain CEO during treatment. “The remedy for this nutritional problem is relatively simple and straightforward,” Jobs says in an open letter.

Jan. 14, 2009: Jobs gives up day-to-day operations to Cook until June, saying his health problems are more complex than originally thought. Jobs says he will remain involved in major strategic decisions. “I look forward to seeing all of you this summer,” he says in a letter to employees.

June 23, 2009: Methodist University Hospital Transplant Institute in Memphis, Tennessee, confirms in a statement that Jobs had a liver transplant and has “an excellent prognosis.”

June 29, 2009: Apple announces Jobs’s return to work. At the time, Apple shares had risen 70 percent since Jan. 15.

Sept. 9, 2009: Jobs makes his first public appearance since his return to work, introducing new iPod models in San Francisco. He says he was the recipient of a liver transplanted from a young adult who had died in a car crash. “I am back at Apple and loving every minute of it,” he says.

Oct. 20, 2010: Jobs appears on stage to unveil a lighter MacBook Air laptop and a version of the Macintosh operating system called Lion.

Jan. 17, 2011: Jobs begins another medical leave, telling employees in an e-mail that “I love Apple so much and hope to be back as soon as I can.” Cook, who received total compensation of $59.1 million in fiscal 2010 because of bonuses for filling in for Jobs, is left in charge.

Feb. 23, 2011: Apple shareholders reject a proposal seeking more disclosure about its chief executive officer succession plan.

March 2, 2011: Jobs, 56, emerges from medical leave to introduce a new version of the iPad tablet. The appearance assures some investors that he still participates in decision-making.

March 23, 2011: Walt Disney Co. investors re-elect Jobs to the board of the entertainment company, rejecting calls from proxy advisers who said health issues might impair his ability to serve. Jobs is Disney’s largest shareholder, with about 7.4 percent of the company.

April 11, 2011: CBS Corp.’s Simon & Schuster sets the publication date for Jobs’s biography for early 2012. Written by Walter Isaacson and initially titled “iSteve: The Book of Jobs,” the title is later changed to “Steve Jobs” and the publication date moved up to November 2011. The publisher later says it will update the biography to include Jobs’s resignation.

Aug. 24, 2011: Jobs resigns as CEO of Apple, handing the reins to Cook and taking the title of chairman. “I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know,” Jobs says in a statement. “Unfortunately, that day has come.”

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posted August 29, 2011 02:16 AM            

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Reading through his health bio that's been posted recently on several sites it looks as if his health matters have been maybe been lied about to the press and Apple stockholders or just simply acknowledged at a much later date. Sounds h12 to me since at the time of diagnosis he had that brilliant sa.Jup/Uranus conj in the natal 12th and t.Jupiter was on top of it, Jup rules the 4th so he maybe that would be one reason for keeping matters private? Also sa.Mars was inching up to conj n.MC opp t.Pluto nearing the IC. Pluto rules his n. h3 and is placed natally in the 12th, so another reason for keeping tight lipped, as a means to keep control perhaps?
On the health front, t.Mars at the time was conj t.Uranus and they were going through his natal 6th house of health, Uranus natally rules the 6th and Mars rules the 8th, and they were inching closer to conj his Sun in the 6th. Sun's also connected to the 12th being its ruler, placed in the 6th, so his health will be a v.personal and private issue as it's connected to the 12th house of sorrow. It was stated that he had hoped a change in diet would help him with the illness and diet matters are related to the 6th house as well.
Also natally the 6th and 8th rulers are in hard aspect, a square.

posted August 29, 2011 04:54 AM            

He admited he whouldn't be alive without an organ donation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhKzyAoiTJE

As much as I hate Apple, I have to admire what he has created. Apple can't do without him. Some may say some nasty things about him, including myself. The reality is being on top "went to his head".

Tim Cook is half the man he is, Cook is a genuis in product management, not product development.

You need to come out with new products, ideas and services to stay on top. Otherwise you'll end up with improvements on existing products with only minor improvements that will go "stale".

I mean does anyone care about MS Office anymore or Adobe Suite, there just improvements over the previous version.

Apple needs him as CEO full time, even if he is the Chairman, it will be Cook running the company most of the time.

Steave Jobs did an excellent job with branding, building an image and running a "marketing machine"

I know someone who wanted to buy a Macbook air, then she realize it didn't have an optical drive.

But, the brand and the image mattered more then function to her.

Wrong time to leave, more competition and Android OS for the Win!!!!!

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Gemini Sun, 5th House
Aries Moon
Mercury in Gemini
Venus In Taurus

posted August 29, 2011 07:09 AM            

yes, it is possible. He is so interconnected with the firm.

Seriously, since I first heard the news about his recent bad health, I´ve got a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. And the astrology does not make me feel any better about it. But I am really hoping I am wrong.

posted August 29, 2011 07:44 AM            

I think I read in one of Noel Tyl`s books that if a planet does not have Ptolemaic aspects within 5 degrees, it is considered unaspected.

Of course some people might consider the 6 degree sextile to Mars and 7 degree trine to Neptune - in this case of course his Sun would not be unaspected.

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A Rule of thumb sais that a normal full or new moon lasts approximately 24 hours, 12 hours approaching to the exact fullmoon, 12 hours after that.
This time span relates to an orb of 6 degrees applying and separating.
So I guess within that orb aspects would be quite clearly felt.

posted August 29, 2011 02:59 PM            

Cosmic, That'd more likely be seen in the chart for Apple, vs. his natal, since you're talking more about the business and not him. Might be a bit hard to find tho. I could search around.
I saw at least some of the privacy for Jobs with Pluto ruling the 3rd placed in the 12th, trine to Mars in the 8th, sq Saturn also which rules the 5th (creative ventures). The Saturn Pluto sq is in fixed signs. Saturn in Scorp in the 3rd as well, and that is the 5th house ruler. Scorp Saturn in the 3rd keeps mum to maintain control, or if they're loquacious about matters it is in a calculated way to minimize damage to the self (their ideas being rejected for instance) and to lead others on a path arriving at the destination that Saturn chooses (Scorpio reads as manipulation and that can be pos or neg).
Scorpio/Pluto/h8 factors for privacy
Also Neptune/Pisces/h12
^ So those factors may play a prominent role in Apple's chart.

posted August 29, 2011 03:12 PM            

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Venus, imo the Moon yes, the Sun has a greater orb of influence so no.

Cosmic, That'd more likely be seen in the chart for Apple, vs. his natal, since you're talking more about the business and not him. Might be a bit hard to find tho. I could search around.
I saw at least some of the privacy for Jobs with Pluto ruling the 3rd placed in the 12th, trine to Mars in the 8th, sq Saturn also which rules the 5th (creative ventures). The Saturn Pluto sq is in fixed signs. Saturn in Scorp in the 3rd as well, and that is the 5th house ruler. Scorp Saturn in the 3rd keeps mum to maintain control, or if they're loquacious about matters it is in a calculated way to minimize damage to the self (their ideas being rejected for instance) and to lead others on a path arriving at the destination that Saturn chooses (Scorpio reads as manipulation and that can be pos or neg).
Scorpio/Pluto/h8 factors for privacy
Also Neptune/Pisces/h12
^ So those factors may play a prominent role in Apple's chart.

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Ah! Well, the founding date for Apple Computer is April 1, 1976. Don't know the time, but might be able to dig it up.

posted August 29, 2011 03:46 PM            

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U can look at both H8 and H12 for privacy. But,being private and having skeletons in closest r two different things

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posted August 29, 2011 09:59 PM            

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Ah! Well, the founding date for Apple Computer is April 1, 1976. Don't know the time, but might be able to dig it up.

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posted August 30, 2011 01:58 AM            

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about my own solar arcs and progressions now. Would you take a peek at them

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posted August 30, 2011 05:34 AM            

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In the wake of Steve Jobs' resignation as Apple CEO last week, the billionaire's biological father has told media outlets that he regrets giving up his son for adoption some fifty years ago.

Abdulfattah John Jandali, a Syrian immigrant who now works as a vice-president at a casino in a Reno, Nev., was quoted by the New York Post as saying he didn't know until just a fewyears ago that the baby he and his ex-wife, Joanne Simpson, gave up grew to be Apple's CEO. Jandali has emailed his son a few times, he said, but did not call Jobs for fear that he would think Jandali was after his fortune.

Jandali told the Post that had it been his choice, he would have kept the baby, but Simpson's father did not approve of her marrying a Syrian, so she moved to San Francisco to have the baby alone and give it up for adoption.

Jandali said he hoped Jobs would call him someday, and would be happy for the two of them to get just a cup of coffee together once before it is too late. Jandali is 80, and Jobs has been in declining health.

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He's emailed him but no response. Anyway it is big news for an adopted child, your dad contacting media outlets as a way to reach out to you.
Saturn (the father) in the 3rd, lack of communication, Sun also as father ruling the 12th. Maybe they will meet soon? Doubt it but it is possible.. (Saturn Return in Oct, and off and on next yr too).

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And yet, Jandali says that he expects the connection never happen. “This might sound strange, though, but I am not prepared, even if either of us was on our deathbeds, to pick up the phone to call him,” Jandali reportedly tells news. “Steve will have to do that, as the Syrian pride in me does not want him ever to think I am after his fortune.”

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I tend to think that if he wants to spend time with me he knows where I am and how to get hold of me.

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posted September 07, 2011 07:10 AM            

"Wood stands for liver and gallbladder in Chinese metaphysics. Steve had pancreatic cancer in 2004 and a liver transplant in 2009. This shows metal energy is not good for his health though it is great for his wealth. Metal stands for wealth for a fire-person."

60 i think is huge in this system. kinda like a saturn return.

"The first hurdle is shared by everyone who will be be 60 years old in 2015 (including Bill Gate). The Chinese calender system is measured in terms of a sixty years cycle. People who were born in 1955 or the year of “wood-ram” (yi-wei) will reach another wood-ram year in 2015. This will create an astrological condition of “Fu-yin” or the “overlapping of annual luck pillar with birth-year pillar”. Depending on individual astrological chart and life history, this Fu-yin condition can be auspicious or bad omen for the person with this condition.

Unfortunate for Steve, wood or “yi” stands for liver in Chinese astrology and also Chinese Traditional Medicine. Ram or “wei” is “wood-storage or tomb” in Chinese metaphysics. So yi-wei year (2015) means “wood is entombed” or to Steve, his liver is “entombed”. This could mean major liver problems for him.

What this means is that Steve Jobs should avoid metal energy, especially during 2015!