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Topic: Steve Jobs - Progressions, Transits, Solar Arcs
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Lonake
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posted August 26, 2011 11:54 PM
  
He resigned as Apple CEO on Wednesday, here are his charts for that day. What do you guys see in these charts?
I just highlighted what immed stood out to me,  Uploaded with ImageShack.us  Uploaded with ImageShack.us Some things stick out to me,
-Uranus is natal 6th house ruler
-Solar Arc Uranus is coming up to conj his natal ASC, health matters brought to the fore? Angle conjunctions are strong.
-Transit Uranus is coming up little by little to conjunct his Moon
-Moon rules his 11th house, showing a waning influence due to health concerns
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The hopes and wishes of the eleventh house are more in the nature of fond desires that are shared and enjoyed in the company of others. People that help the native, friends, connections and influence matters relate to this house.
-Transit Chiron conjunct his natal Sun in the 6th, mortality being confronted, painful events
-Mars is natal 8th house ruler and is natally placed in the 8th. Transit Mars is coming up to conjunct his natal Jupiter, which rules the 4th, could be seen as conserving energy? Later it will be conjunct natal Uranus, ruler of 6th.
-Mercury is natal 10th house ruler, career/reputation, also the ASC ruler
-Solar Arc Mercury is past a conjunction to his natal Moon and conjunct Solar Arc Uranus, bringing health (Uranus ruling the 6th) and career (Mercury ruling the 10th) back in focus.
-Solar Arc ASC conjunct progressed Saturn, Saturn brings restrictions. Another angular conjunction.IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 04:42 PM
Ehhh, they're all stuck in their synastries 
It'll be interesting to see what happens for him when Solar Arc Uranus conj his natal ASC exact, and also when progressed Mars conj his natal Uranus exact, since Mars rules the 8th and is placed in the 8th natally.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 04:49 PM
Cosmic can you read transits?
If you can, progressions and solar arcs aren't too far ahead in terms of predictive astrology (or looking back on important past events).IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 27, 2011 05:01 PM
Hmm, SA Pluto is in the 2nd house and squares the ruler of the 2nd house, Venus; does that more relate to his finances or to his own physical substance?But to be honest, I do not like to look at that chart, cause the theme that keeps crawling up - well, I just don`t like to think in doom and gloom, but I am looking for some "healing" aspects, but somehow I fail to find them. Have you seen any? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 05:34 PM
^ I'm with you. Maybe the fact that the progressed Sun stellium passed his natal Mars and nothing too major happened, at least that I know of, is some sort of glimmer? But still it's in the 8th for a while. And it's not an angular conjunction, like that upcoming Uranus/ASC (not yet exact). I guess I put emphasis on Uranus/Mars, since Mars rules 8th and Uranus rules 6th.
Not really a lot of Jupiter action, all I see is progressed Taurus stellium sorta creeping up on Jupiter but they'll prob not meet up, well the Moon might later on since it progresses faster. "Hmm, SA Pluto is in the 2nd house and squares the ruler of the 2nd house, Venus; does that more relate to his finances or to his own physical substance?"
---I wonder if it relates to Apple stock dropping on release of this news? But it quickly recovered. You're right tho it is exact. AND transit Saturn is coming up later to conj SA Pluto, in October I believe, and then it'll Rx and conj it again next yr. Saturn on Pluto not good for finances. Saturn on Venus, same, since Venus like you said rules his 2nd etc. Saturn rules his 5th house of creative input..I wonder if that's the link? Loss of creative input (Saturn) negatively impacts personal finances (h2)? quote:
A 3% fall in Apple stock wipes $10bn off the company's value, as investors fret over a future without its visionary leader (...) The short-term selloff of Apple shares immediately after the announcement is driven by fears that Apple will not continue to perform as it has, once Steve Jobs leaves the CEO role.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/aug/25/apple-stock-drops-steve-jobs-resigns Not that they're hurting for $$$ obviously. O, I just noticed his Saturn is natally at 21 Libra. So he's up for his Saturn Return in October. That will be one to watch. Heck, maybe I should look at Tim Cook's chart (prob don't have tob tho), "Apple Awards Tim Cook 1,000,000 Shares of Stock as CEO Bonus to Stay Until 2021"
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/26/apple-awards-tim-cook-1000000-shares-of-stock-as-ceo-bonus/ Maybe the guy has Jup at 4 Capricorn lol.
"This stock award is worth just over $383 million at current prices."  I can't even imagine. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 05:50 PM
Just found this in present state. I'm sure he has access to the best treatment money can buy. I hope they get him to eat more.
http://sandrarose.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Steve-Jobs1.jpg Such a brilliant creative mind. btw Saturn is exalted at 21 Libra,
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SATURN is exalted in Libra particularly in 21 degree. When it is strong then it denotes perfection and highest human qualities, spirituality, detachment, concentration, inwardness, dutifulness, honesty, sincerity, stability, longevity, responsibility, constancy and consistency.
He has it ruling his 5th house of creativity placed in the 3rd house of daily thoughts and trine to the brilliant conj of Jupiter/Uranus that's elevated in his chart.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 05:54 PM
^ I've tried fixing the links, for some reason they're not navigating to the pages.
Nm, I just had to turn the img to a link for the pic since it wasn't posting.IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted August 27, 2011 06:34 PM
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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
I know when t.Jupiter conjuncts my ASC, I gain weight!  LOL! Yeah, that level. Pretty rudimentary stuff. At this point, things like progressions and solar arcs are a total mystery to me. Even a Solar Return chart is baffling. Didn't even know there were things like progressions and solar arcs until I started reading regularly around here. At this point, can't afford any astrology books, so it's all hunting around on the Internet. All self-taught stuff.
That's a great way to learn, look at your chart and see what Jupiter means to you, starting natally:
-What sign is it in
-What house is it in
-What house does it rule
-What aspects does it makeI would say the 1st 3 hold the most importance.
Take the time when Jup was on your ASC for instance and get 2 charts, one for natal and transits, the other for natal progressions solar arc both marked for the day you choose.
Then look at Jupiter all over the place, n.Jupiter, p.Jupiter, sa.Jupiter, t.Jupiter and see what stands out.
Maybe you'll also have your Asc ruler strongly activated at the time? Things like that. My mom died on my 1st Jupiter return, on the 2nd one my daughter was born. Natal Jupiter is in the 4th in Scorpio.
On my 1st Jupiter return solar arc pluto was conj natal Jupiter in the 4th at the time of the return.
On my 2nd Jupiter return solar arc jupiter was conj natal Uranus in the 5th at the time of the return.
(Among other hits.) You read em all together and they start painting a bigger picture.
Conjunctions are strong, esp conj to angles.
I also have a whole host of conjunctions on my next Jupiter return, looking at both charts. I hesitate to think what may happen  IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Wondering what about his chart would show him to be such a force? A friend of mine read a biography on him, and she mentioned that even as a kid, he would *make* things happen. Just by sheer willpower. He even got his parents to move to another home, so he could attend a different school in the area. Anything like that stand out in his chart? He definitely seems to be plugged in to something bigger than the rest of us.
This is interesting to read; I don't know his bio well. But it does sound pretty funny, a kid with that much influence OK there are a few things in the natal,
---Mars opp Neptune, Mars/Neptune is a charismatic influence, a master of seduction, and this can be manifested in various ways, you never know how someone will use their energies
---Mars is of course at home in Aries, at the anaretic degree 29. He has the ruler of the 8th, Mars, in the 8th so it's a force of will there for sure. The planet I associate with willpower is definitely Pluto, but 8th has strong power of influence, they can change the temp of a room in seconds. So you can start to see how Mars/Aries/Neptune/H8 has influence here.
---That Mars that's in Aries at 29, that rules the 8th, that's placed in the 8th is also trine to Pluto, so that's a strong testament to willpower. Pluto rules his 3rd house of communications and mind so when it trines that strengthened Mars in the 8th you can see that his words can have enormous sway over others, almost hypnotizing them, esp considering Neptune is involved as well. I've heard it said that his speeches can have that sort of effect, in the conferences he's been in for Apple, etc.
---The 3rd also rules our early schooling, and a good elementary foundation is needed for further educational success (9th its opposite rules higher education), and with Pluto ruling it I could see him swaying others in terms of what would benefit him, with Pluto I'm sure it's something he felt very deeply and strongly about. Saturn in the 3rd also shows that he may have felt let down by early schooling in some way, maybe for him it was that he knew he was more advanced mentally than what the school had to offer him in terms of challenge to make him sharper? I don't know his bio so really can't comment further. But he does have Mercury (ASC and MC ruler) in the creative 5th in Aquarius loosely squaring that Saturn that rules the 5th...he must have felt that the early educational environment wasn't very stimulating.
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Lonake
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posted August 27, 2011 10:41 PM
I mean, the guy could've easily been your common variety neighborhood serial killer. Really.
Mars in Aries ruling the 8th, placed in the 8th house of death trine Pluto in the 12th which rules the 3rd. 3rd house is neighborhood. Trines give a way to easily access the energies. Mercury/Gemini/Virgo gives a facile mind, given to trickery. Mercury in Aquarius could've been the rebel mind that didn't want to be told what to do that wouldn't confine to society's laws, square to that Saturn. Mars/Neptune could've meant he could seduce his victims. You could've read venus in cap opp uranus as possessing no feeling, being cold and aloof, along with unaspected Aries Moon in the 7th for going off at a moments notice if his needs weren't immed met by others, and course it's ruled by that treacherous Aries Mars in the 8th trine Pluto.So this just goes to show you can't predict how someone will use their chart.
You have to know how people are using their energies before you can accurately read for them. Sure you could interpret their chart in the most positive enlightening fashion but if they haven't wizened up to the fact that their life holds those positive possibilities then achieving that state is going to be hard to realize. They need to be open to change before they can enact change. IP: Logged |
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posted August 27, 2011 11:08 PM
i keep reading he's an a-hole or one of the worst bosses. can't find the article i read coz there are soo many when you search steve job a-hole boss lol! i absolutely wouldn't mind that type of person if they're as competent/ successful. i also don't mind huge egos. no idea if he has one. IP: Logged |
winter
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posted August 28, 2011 12:20 AM
That SA Uranus = Asc is going to occur about the same time as SA Asc = Saturn which will also cop a direct hit from next years November solar eclipse at 21° Scorpio. At the same time tr Neptune is stationing on his SA Node.Like mentioned earlier….the theme keeps appearing. Wouldn't be surprised if his birth time is just a couple of minutes earlier.
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Lonake
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posted August 28, 2011 01:53 AM
Sand, yea I've heard it mentioned that he can be quite controlling. But when you know what you want and how you want it, well....?
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winter, hi He doesn't have very strong Jupiter action, does he? I saw that t.Jupiter will be trine his Venus and Asc in April next yr, from the 28th to about May 17 next yr. At the same time t.Saturn will be going over its natal point again, it'll go back and forth over it for a while. Also at the same time t.Uranus will be on top of his natal Moon. There's just a ton of action around him.Re: solar eclipse around that time t.Mars is conj his n.IC and will be in grand trine with natal Mars trine Pluto. And t.NN will be loosely conj SA Saturn.
Actually at that time (around nov 12) there will be a close stellium, t.Mars 27 Sadge, p.NN 27 Sadge, and SA.Neptune 25 Sadge.
t.Chiron will be 4 Pisces still on his Sun. What's your interp of Neptune on the node? Spiritual journey of sorts? IP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2011 05:41 AM
Lonake,"Maybe the fact that the progressed Sun stellium passed his natal Mars and nothing too major happened," Well, Sun is ruling his 12th natal house, so maybe we just don`t know about it? So the ruler of his natal 12th house visited his 8th house ruler in 8th house, which happens to be Mars.
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posted August 28, 2011 10:29 AM
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posted August 28, 2011 03:52 PM
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sand: About him being an a-hole. Yes, particularly in his younger years, he was known to fly off the handle pretty badly. He didn't exactly treat people very well. However, I actually once met one guy who worked on the original Mac. He said that Steve Jobs mellowed quite a bit. Particularly after he got married and started having kids. He really isn't the tyrant like he was in his younger years at all. Don't know what he's really like now.
awww how sweet ehehe he just needed love after all.  i remember in that your ideal placements in a partner thingy he was the one that came up in astrotheme. DOH! ima straight guy fyi. IP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2011 07:46 PM
haha no! in that ideal placements thread i listed placements down and looked them up on astrotheme but there were very few women. mostly dudes with him being the most recognizable.does that make sense now? sorry lol i tend to just type out whatever when i post. IP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2011 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, Sun is ruling his 12th natal house, so maybe we just don`t know about it?
Good point. He looks v.ill in that recent pic.
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posted August 28, 2011 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Did you have the typical kind of Jupiter cycle, of about a year or so in the sign?
I just pay attn to how many direct hits n.Jupiter gets, my next return it's gonna speed by and will not rx over that point. The time it spends in the sign is the same as everyone else.
Also interesting info you posted on Jobs bio, talking to someone who worked on the first mac is pretty cool. I have an ipod touch and the itunes acct so that's as far as I am into the mac world now. Never had an mp3 player before last yr and am glad I waited, it was worth it.IP: Logged |
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