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Topic: What are indicators of " Old Souls " ?
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popcorn
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posted September 10, 2011 10:00 AM
  
Exactly. We are all the same. People. Old or Young so what. We are all children from the beginning. I think everyone in here are old souls.IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted September 10, 2011 12:51 PM
One psyhic told my mom that I was rich in a past life...and thats why I have good taste. (well some of my ansesotrs where pretty well off...I see pictures of one of my great grandmas that looked a lot like me)Another one who was also a spiritual healer told my mom that I was a male wolf.
And then I was a fresh faced blue eyed boy from Germany. During the holocost times...:/ and died at age 19.
So suposedly this is my first life as a girl. lol I definetly think that this is possible but I'm not really one to recall past my past lives. IP: Logged |
britterfly
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posted September 10, 2011 02:13 PM
Post your chart, Stawr!! I wanna see!! Do you have your correct birth time, too?Post your chart post your chart! eeee eee eeee!!! IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted September 12, 2011 11:45 AM
I will post it...I would like to see what you all notice.  I decided to add some random asteroids...let me know if there are other asteroids you would like me to add. And my chart might expire after a while. IP: Logged |
mochai
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posted September 12, 2011 12:48 PM
I had a dream where I was a character slightly different than myself (more male), asking these things that were serving as guides how old I was and they said 2 billion years. I had a lucid dream where I asked how many lives I had left and they said "this one", and then they said there was an andriod incident that they'd get into later (I hate technology). One of my friends at one point decided to channel a bunch of energy into me when I was getting visions and I started seeing all these people cycling through in groups, most looking human, some less so, but most with much more refined features than we have. I've incarnated a ton of places.Most people here aren't in their first incarnation. Supposedly people with rainbow auras are in their first incarnation on this planet. Edit: Disclaimer.. if we believe in animal past lives etc many of those lives could be rather ephemeral or rather inane in this circumstance. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted September 12, 2011 01:22 PM
Saturn influence.Also, you know if you are an old soul if you have desire to help others instead of yourself. You are an old soul if you search for truth and aren't satisfied till you find it. You are an old soul if you know the truth about life and why we humans are here at present. IP: Logged |
DayandNight21
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posted September 12, 2011 02:19 PM
An outer planet in an angular house (first, fourth, seventh, or tenth) signifies that the individual represents or identifies with transpersonal energy in that area of his or her life. Outer Planets in angular houses, or conjunct or opposed (to a lesser extent trine) the Sun, Moon or Mercury, signify "older souls." These are beings that have been around the block and are no longer completely identified with the aspects of human life symbolized by the inner planets.From myastrologybook.com The other belief that aries is the most naive and pisces is the oldest soul that I have read somewhere is in my opinion a load of rubbish. It doesn't take into account the whole chart, and what would they say to aries sun in aspect to an outer planet in an angular house? thats why mariah carey is a good example, I'm not a huge fan but her chart is interesting as she has a lot of angular placements in the 10th house and sun as one of them in aspect to uranus so that would technically make her an older soul according to the defn posted above. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted September 12, 2011 05:15 PM
i believe the phases of the moon can indicate it. when you read new moon, it sounds like a new soul to meIP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted September 13, 2011 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
i believe the phases of the moon can indicate it. when you read new moon, it sounds like a new soul to me
Thats interesting and I agree.. I was born at a full moon.. I think it also matters which signs... Because some are more mature than others... IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted September 13, 2011 02:46 PM
when i read descriptions of people with balsamic moon it sounds a lot as old souls. i am a new mooner and i can relate with a new sould just discovering the world, but i could not say how many years my soud have LOL to answer to Lonake question.IP: Logged |
Hello Pleiades
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posted September 13, 2011 03:48 PM
As a student of evolutionary astrology, and of Jeff Green's teachings (check out his book, "Pluto, the evolutionary Journey of the Soul")the position and aspects to pluto along side the nodes' facilitation to pluto, denote karmic lessons we are to learn in this lifetime including our pace of evolution. Some of us are living under different evolutionary conditions, herd, individualized, or spiritual which include 2 ro 3% of the population. We are here to learn and live with our karmic selves that are delegated by past lifetimes and therefore needs made by ourselves to make these things happen. I am born with pluto in it's home, 8th house scorpio, where the evolutionary elements of pluto are as intense or scorpionic as they may be, born as a natural psychoanalyst Jeff says (much more that can't be divulged here). Apart from this, it is things like Pluto's exact square degree and minute to my natal chiron in the 5th that can give you clues to at least how you are evolving in this lifetime due to conditions of past lives. How do we know if a person dies, their soul transcends or stays on this plane to learn more, how old is a soul on this plane?
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Lonake
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posted September 13, 2011 04:37 PM
I have a Balsamic Moon too it's not a big deal.
I do love balsamic vinegar tho. Maybe there's a connection  IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted September 15, 2011 12:22 AM
I feel as if I have an old soul... I just feel older (wiser) deep inside of me..
Can prove it??? Nope.. Its just a feeling.. I also feel that Im here clearing up karma, and past mistakes, and to learn.. Even though I have no clue what these are.. I just feel it..
I feel like I was put here for a specific purpose. Some aspects.. That people have mentioned above. Saturn
Conjunct IC
Sq Asc.DSC
Opps MC Uranus/Pluto H7 4 Planets in house 6 Angular houses
1st Chiron Aries
4th Gem... Saturn.... Also Cancer Venus
7th Uranus/Pluto Libra
10th Juptier in Sag NN in Cap... SN in Can Balsamic Moon Also I was born on the 8th..
Birth number and Destiny 8 which is ruled by Saturn..
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BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 15, 2011 01:57 AM
I don't know that I buy the moon phase thing in connection with the age of a soul. My moon phase is pretty early - a waxing crescent - but I definitely believe I've been here more than a few times, and most older adults who talk to me for any length of time are always telling me that I have a lot of sense for someone my age....Do I think I'm a VERY old soul? No, more along the lines of being at the halfway point or a middle-aged soul. I'm thinking there's some truth to it having to do with the placement of outers in a chart, specifically planets like Pluto and Saturn. Pluto conjuncts my moon and Saturn conjuncts Jupiter and sextiles my Mercury, so... IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted September 15, 2011 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
I do wonder that though...some people do have that old soul personality. Wise beyond their years, and calm...
This 6 year old at the day care I worked at...I'm use to seeing six year old's...talk my ear off, any object has potential to be a pretend gun and to pretend shoot people, and pretend fighting with their friends turns into real fighting. This six year old...would just sit in the day care and be sooo bored...after a while he would bring in his Nintendo DS or whatever in and listen to slow songs of Green Day. like his face expressions where not childlike. He would look people dead in the face and say "whatever..." And then some people no matter how ancient they are, can seem very child like. Like my Grandma F. who loved sweets, loved to dance, and would say things like "If you can't have fun you might as well be dead" Those of you that know much on this topic can someone who seems very childlike be an old soul? And someone that six that doesn't seem uber phased by toys, mud, and monster trucks. Be a young soul? Is this an appropriate question to post on this topic? (I don't want to seem like a troll) lol
It sounds like the kid is bitter and has had to grow up faster and this probably has to do with his home environment. Your grandmother sounds awesome!! Full of life, god bless her. She values life and wants to live it the fullest. In my opinion your grandmother sounds more evolved than the kid that says "whatever." Its all perception. If we are going to talk about old souls we need to first determine what are the criteria that makes someone an old soul. I would think that the more self actualized a person is the more lifes he or she has lived but having lived more lifes could also mean that person is having difficulty learning a lesson and keeps coming back. Hence having lived more lifes does not necessarily mean that person is more self actualized. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted September 15, 2011 08:48 AM
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athenegoddess
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posted December 08, 2011 02:14 PM
Numerology shows us old souls plain and simple.IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted December 08, 2011 03:35 PM
I am an old soul, and i was kind of like that 6 year old when i was little and i wasn't bitter at all and didn't have to grow up fast - i'm the youngest. At birthday parties, i was never the one to run around performing spice girl songs or something, i'd usually be sitting there talking to my friend's parents or something.i think you just know if you're an old soul, i can almost pick them out of a crowd. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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posted December 08, 2011 09:54 PM
i think that everyone has reincarnated before, many many times and some souls are just more evolved through more experience. the older the soul is i think there's a stronger drive to find truths and soul searching..id say that charts that are very difficult might indicate an old soul because a young soul might not be able to handle the hardships like an old soul does due to its experience. IP: Logged |
T
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posted December 09, 2011 02:08 AM
I know an old soul by someone who sees through the BS on this planet and also wants "off".We're a rare breed.   IP: Logged |
MertSerimer
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posted December 09, 2011 04:54 AM
Just cuz of my curiosity, i went for a search. I found either last incarnation of birth chart will have all planets in pisces since every sign and house carries the lesson we should learn. This is probably wrong since when was it that entire planets were in Pisces? The other is being pisces ascendant, mars in aries, sun in leo, mercury in virgo, venus in libra(venus can't be in taurus since it can not go far away more than 48 degrees from the sun, Also mercury 28 degrees, so it can not be in gemini), Jupiter in either pisces or sagit, saturn in capricorn. Still it does not really make sense to me much. Then for the last incarnation, souls will have no uniques everybody will be the same which is boring.. But there are other small indicators that all say. But there are common things for some astrologers;-Pisces or Capricorn on DC
-4th house Ruler retro
-Many empty house.
-Venus/Jupiter Easy Aspects
-Inconsiderable hard aspects
-Moon in Pisces
-Sun or Moon in Pisces Decanate
-Very very very good placed Saturn(since it rules karma, there should not be very work to do)
-Also your twin flame must have finished his/her job either otherwise how can you unite and leave? There are some stupid theories out there. Dont have validation like above, of course it is very hard to validate. Believe or not it is up to you. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted December 09, 2011 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Numerology shows us old souls plain and simple.
How so? What, the higher the lifepath number, the older the soul? I don't know that I buy that, because I've seen some 11's out there who, in those terms, appear to be brand new souls with a lot of the ignorant, silly things they do...LMAO. And T - maybe being an old soul is the ability to be here on this planet with all the bad things that happen, and not let it jade you or harden you or break your spirit. Maybe the ability to do that, indicates an old soul...we just don't really know what the 'criteria' for being an old soul is. But it seems to me that the ability to still see good in the world and light in yourself and other people, doesn't appear to be something that's easy or comes naturally to most people, and the ability to do that seems like something that you can only do if you're wise and have been around the block a few times, in a soul sense. Hating is easy; loving is hard. And it's easy to be negative and much harder to stay positive. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted December 09, 2011 06:18 AM
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athenegoddess
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posted December 09, 2011 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
i think that everyone has reincarnated before, many many times and some souls are just more evolved through more experience. the older the soul is i think there's a stronger drive to find truths and soul searching..id say that charts that are very difficult might indicate an old soul because a young soul might not be able to handle the hardships like an old soul does due to its experience.
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jesstar
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posted December 09, 2011 10:48 AM
let me give this a whirl here. growing up i always heard my mother speaking of how she remembers the smell of castles.then my brother started in on remembering being high.(which was odd for an 11 year old) i myself never remembered anything from elsewhere. it wasnt untill the last 6 or so years where things started clicking for me. i have a vast knowledge of things where i am uncertain how i learned them . i first read gooobers in 1990 and read sun and starsigns before that .my third eye never closed as a child . anyhow once i grew older and started realizing that i know how to heal i started having flashback when i would go into shock from self-inflicted wounds (not that i would hurt my self on intentionally,im a sag)so one day i get a call from my mother who is nearly frantic on the other end of the lineand she is trying to tell me she met someone who counts lives. i believe he used to write for the new york times ? or such i wonder if she knows his name. its al very simple rather and once she explained it to me i understood instantly.she seemed to forget howto add it up by the time she told me. its pretty much basic numerology but everything is added down to a ingle number ,even 11 is added to 2. no lives go past 9 . being s whn u losesomeone who was in their 9th life their death is so so so hard on the living because they r truely gone .i didnt find this out till after i lost my bestfriend in 2005 knowing now he was in his 9th life makes so much more sense to me. its easy to pick up if u keep an open mind. hereis me 12 -2-72 (use only the last two didgits of he year) 1+2=3 3+2=5 5+(7+2)=14 1+4= 5 = 5th life ------------------
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