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mintgirl123
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posted September 09, 2011 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe soorpio moons ARE 'extremely considerate' of other's feelings.

From my experiences, it's pretty much a double standard, and you have to be extra careful with them, but they can hurt you whenever and you're expected to take it.

Why would they hurt others and test them so much and distress other ppl if they did really consider their feelings?

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posted September 09, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I don't believe soorpio moons ARE 'extremely considerate' of other's feelings.

From my experiences, it's pretty much a double standard, and you have to be extra careful with them, but they can hurt you whenever and you're expected to take it.

Why would they hurt others and test them so much and distress other ppl if they did really consider their feelings?


from what you've said i think you mean you don't consider someone who would 'test' people, a person who is considerate of others feelings? which i can see what you're saying..
however what tests have you experienced? as i said i'm not really aware of actual 'tests' only 'extreme observation'. somebody else mentioned something about making sure the person can handle them at their worst but i think what other people would consider their worst is just their extreme sensitivity and believe me i sometimes despise that about myself lol.

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posted September 09, 2011 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Alternative: sh*it test the hell out of them

Now that's the option I prefer. I sh*t test them right back. It's actually fairly entertaining with someone who's good at it. Of course, that could be my own Scorpio rising talking.

I like all the Scorpionic descriptions on here so far. I think they are fairly accurate. I've known tons of Scorpios, so at this point in my life, I'm used to them.

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posted September 09, 2011 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, hello mature Scorpio Moon!

This is why I included the question to the Scorp about being aware that it is hurting the other person. There are some who do it subconsciously.

Also, there's no need to get upset, as there are evolved and unevolved types. It's one thing to observe the other person under stress and another to humiliate them and push them over the edge just to see how much cr*ap they would take before throwing in the towel.

And, unfortunately, the general consensus seems to be that the tests are way too extreme (as in sleeping-with-your-best-friend extreme).

Maybe people could post examples of the tests - the ones they've gone through and, in the case of Scorpio Moons, the ones they've given.
I'm curious of what you did so that you can observe the reaction afterwards.

I find myself giving sh*it tests at the beginning of a relationship. For instance I once flirted with someone else at a party and then observed. I know it's not nice, and I stopped when I realized that that is what I was doing, but my subconscious knew that I don't need an insecure man.

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posted September 09, 2011 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why would they hurt others and test them so much and distress other ppl if they did really consider their feelings?

To be honest, I think it's kind of a mirror reaction. They really are super sensitive, and so, to make up for it, they tend to be overly abrasive and rough with others so they don't appear to be super sensitive. They're afraid others will hurt them first, so they push others away until they figure out if they can trust you or not.

Because they approach the world like: "Not everyone is looking out for MY well-being, so I have to do what I can to take care of myself" they assume that everyone else does this as well, so if you can't take care of yourself and your own emotions, they will not be the ones to do it for you. (Which is not an excuse for being a jerk, but still... This is the way a lot of them think). You have to be fairly secure in yourself and you have to know where you stand on things with them.

Personally, I also think that they just like to see how others will react in certain situations. If you are prone to going off like a roman candle when your buttons are pushed a little bit, chances are, you don't want to hang out with a Scorpio.

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posted September 09, 2011 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And, unfortunately, the general consensus seems to be that the tests are way too extreme (as in sleeping-with-your-best-friend extreme).

But see... To me, that's not a test. That's just plain disrespect. Just walk away at that point, because it's no longer worth your time.

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posted September 09, 2011 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^what enchantress said! Great explanation!

(I also do the right-back-at-ya part It keeps them busy and it's really entertaining if one likes chess games. And I definitely agree about finding a great opponent. Moon in 8th, Pluto in first opposed Sun-Ven-Mars.)

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posted September 09, 2011 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Scorp91.. are you *me*?

euh.. Scorp-Moon btw

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posted September 10, 2011 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I don't believe soorpio moons ARE 'extremely considerate' of other's feelings.

From my experiences, it's pretty much a double standard, and you have to be extra careful with them, but they can hurt you whenever and you're expected to take it.

Why would they hurt others and test them so much and distress other ppl if they did really consider their feelings?



I think a good reason for this is that the Moon, anyone's Moon, is irrational. It doesn't act according to code it goes for what feels right. If the Scorpio Moon feels threatened then they will be OK with showing that in some way to get you to get you to back off.
If you want someone more in control then look to Scorpio Suns.

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posted September 10, 2011 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by maira:
[B]Well, hello mature Scorpio Moon!

This is why I included the question to the Scorp about being aware that it is hurting the other person. There are some who do it subconsciously.

Also, there's no need to get upset, as there are evolved and unevolved types. It's one thing to observe the other person under stress and another to humiliate them and push them over the edge just to see how much cr*ap they would take before throwing in the towel.

hello maira! oh yes don't worry i agree totally

And, unfortunately, the general consensus seems to be that the tests are way too extreme (as in sleeping-with-your-best-friend extreme).

wow... now i really want to hear some examples of these 'tests' haha!

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posted September 10, 2011 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by enchantress299:
[B] They're afraid others will hurt them first, so they push others away until they figure out if they can trust you or not.

so so true!

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scorp91
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posted September 10, 2011 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Wow Scorp91.. are you *me*?

euh.. Scorp-Moon btw



haha hello there mir! ooh another fellow mooner! what are your other placements if you don't mind me asking?

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posted September 10, 2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scorp91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by maira:
[B]Well, hello mature Scorpio Moon!

This is why I included the question to the Scorp about being aware that it is hurting the other person. There are some who do it subconsciously.

Also, there's no need to get upset, as there are evolved and unevolved types. It's one thing to observe the other person under stress and another to humiliate them and push them over the edge just to see how much cr*ap they would take before throwing in the towel.

hello maira! oh yes don't worry i agree totally

And, unfortunately, the general consensus seems to be that the tests are way too extreme (as in sleeping-with-your-best-friend extreme).

wow... now i really want to hear some examples of these 'tests' haha!


Here are some: withdrawing from the relationship after things get heavy (to maintain control?), saying nasty things to you (to push you away? or to see if you can take it?), maintaining a poker face, and acting indifferent all the while probing you (to keep you guessing?), wanting you to show vulnerability but never showing theirs (double standard? YES!)...

I would bet many here have experienced similar themes with a scorp moon...to me at the root of it all seems to be a need to maintain control at all costs...

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posted September 10, 2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. Another scorpio moon here. I'm not aware of going out of my way to test anyone. What is true is that I am normally a bit wary of people, and if they do hurt me I withdraw a bit and some part of my connection with them dies a little death. Too many of those "little deaths" and I start to cut myself off from them properly. It isn't a test, its a genuine desire to block them out. If they won't let me go for whatever reason, it is a problem for both of us as I don't like being outright rude, so end up playing a game of cat and mouse where I become evasive in the extreme.

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posted September 10, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you don't mind polysigh, I leave that to the discretion of my mouthpiece scorp91

Especially for you ...
*I wanna tell you I am feeling that way too..

wow..

Off the top of my head;
Leo-Sun 7,25*
Scorp-Moon 16'31*
Virgo-Mercury 4'32*
Cancer-Venus 29,53*
Aqua-Mars 19,31*
Scorp-Jupiter 26'40*
Gem-Saturn 4'24*
Libra-Uranus 10,15
Sag-Neptune 0,20*
Virgo-Pluto 27'43*
Aqua-Node 14'35*
Aries-Chiron 13'47*
Virgo-ascendant 3'52*
Taurus-MC 24,55*

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posted September 10, 2011 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polysigh:
Here are some: withdrawing from the relationship after things get heavy (to maintain control?), saying nasty things to you (to push you away? or to see if you can take it?), maintaining a poker face, and acting indifferent all the while probing you (to keep you guessing?), wanting you to show vulnerability but never showing theirs (double standard? YES!)...

I would bet many here have experienced similar themes with a scorp moon...to me at the root of it all seems to be a need to maintain control at all costs...


I think, (as Maira pointed out) this goes back to there being evolved and unevolved types. maybe these tests you have experienced are from less evolved scorpio moons?
(not to sound like i'm labelling myself a highly evolved scorp because i still have a hell of a lot to learn, i mean i'm only 19 lol).
i have acted somewhat like what you've experienced - however only in the sense of withdrawing and pushing people away - but not to test them, only because i was afraid of getting hurt. i haven't however said nasty things or provoked them in anyway, in order to see their reaction to decide whether or not they're a keeper.

As to the root of it all being to maintain control, you're right.
however many people think this is the scorpio moon wanting to maintain control of the people around them - when in my case anyway, i am simply trying to control my emotions...
i'm sure you've read many times in descriptions of scorpio moons of how they realise their intense feeling early on in life and learn how to control it - to avoid feeling misunderstood/odd because the people around them are often shocked by their depth of feeling.

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posted September 10, 2011 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Well if you don't mind polysigh, I leave that to the discretion of my mouthpiece scorp91

Especially for you ...
*I wanna tell you I am feeling that way too..

wow..

Off the top of my head;
Leo-Sun 7,25*
Scorp-Moon 16'31*
Virgo-Mercury 4'32*
Cancer-Venus 29,53*
Aqua-Mars 19,31*
Scorp-Jupiter 26'40*
Gem-Saturn 4'24*
Libra-Uranus 10,15
Sag-Neptune 0,20*
Virgo-Pluto 27'43*
Aqua-Node 14'35*
Aries-Chiron 13'47*
Virgo-ascendant 3'52*
Taurus-MC 24,55*


haha love it, no pressure then!
i thought you might be a leo sun lol. ooh we've got some cool aspects too! my chart is in another thread in astrology 2.0 under chart interpretation if you wanted to see it

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posted September 10, 2011 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorp91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
Well if you don't mind polysigh, I leave that to the discretion of my mouthpiece scorp91

Especially for you ...
*I wanna tell you I am feeling that way too..

wow..

Off the top of my head;
Leo-Sun 7,25*
Scorp-Moon 16'31*
Virgo-Mercury 4'32*
Cancer-Venus 29,53*
Aqua-Mars 19,31*
Scorp-Jupiter 26'40*
Gem-Saturn 4'24*
Libra-Uranus 10,15
Sag-Neptune 0,20*
Virgo-Pluto 27'43*
Aqua-Node 14'35*
Aries-Chiron 13'47*
Virgo-ascendant 3'52*
Taurus-MC 24,55*


haha love it! no pressure then

i thought you might have been a leo sun lol. ooh we've got some cool aspects too! my chart is on another page in the astrology 2.0 section under chart interpretation if you wanted to see it

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posted September 10, 2011 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like the idea of testing people because how it's done is unintentional. It's more like I don't fully open up and show my vulnerability until I can trust somebody. When I'm in, I'm in for life, so to make that kind of decision regarding someone should be a hard one and consists of so-called tests. I can't give my all to everybody. In love relationships, I don't sacrifice or give a lot of myself until I know they will do the same, which is why I see how much they'll do for me first before I commit. Unfair, I know, but if the other party is willing to communicate honestly, then I'll likely try my best to explain that I don't trust a person easily. In the end, I long for somebody who is able to give the same amount of love I'm able to give them.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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posted September 15, 2011 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After nearly 23 years on this planet and also courtesy my Pisces 8th House NN, I have realised that emotionally lashing out at someone whenever I feel threatened is not the best course of action for I am able to discern someone's inner being and therefore, when I lose control and "lash out", I can say very hurtful things because I know where to apply the pressure. I am what you can call Scorpio LITE

Except, that while my NN allows me to live and let live and consider people innocent until proven guilty, when I do retaliate(after deciding for certain that it is a last recourse), it tends to shock people, like a precision strike and is in some ways more dangerous because they don't expect it.

I wonder if people tend to put others into two categories: the ones you screw with and the ones who screw with you :/

Pity, because I tend to not fit into labels.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that my world is unlike any other and I can give the person that is in a relationship with me complete understanding, bliss and to know what love really feels like. This is my power. I walk around all of you, knowing that I could make any of you happy, so if you don't want to come into my world or if you don't want to stay in my world then that is fine with me. Turn your back and Run along, you fool. But there is nothing out there that is better than me. Nope. Sorry. You will never find it. Ever.

See, This type of understanding fuels me beyond anyone's imagination. To me, this is what God would feel like.

God knows that God is the ultimate, God is all the joy and happiness that you can fathom. God is waiting for you to Come to God but God doesn't need you. Not that God feels this way but in reality God doesn't NEED you.

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posted September 16, 2011 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beth... are you being serious?

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posted September 16, 2011 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why?

That is something that scares me.

What if someone asked God that?

Does God Need you? Or God Doesn't need you?

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posted September 16, 2011 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for britterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see...

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posted September 16, 2011 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneAgeQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Scorpio moon and I'm not distrustful and don't push people away. The only time I will do that is if they've proven themselves to be untrustworthy first.

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