posted September 16, 2011 02:27 PM            

I do this because...I don't like it when a guy gets insecure that I ware make-up...
I don't need that crap if I choose to put effort into my looks. And I shouldn't be treated like **** for doing so.

Too me the guy should accept me whether I choose wear it or not.

Don't get me wrong a guy can say "you don't need make-up to be pretty." but if a guy says "you're already pretty, so don't put make on."(yes I guy a dated a year ago told me that before I went on a date with him) I'll be thinking 'EXCUSE YOU!? are you telling me what to do!?...are you trying to give me a uniform? what next! No showing my cleavage...and then wham!, I have a uniform of turtle necks!?'

And it's insulting when a guy assumes girls only put effort into their looks to find a man.
Surprisingly, a lot of women like to look good for themselves. Well I did have one friend say she only wares make-up to please men. But most women say they do it for themselves.

It just screams insecurity if a guy has an issue with me deciding to put make up on. It's insulting when a guy says "Who are you trying to look for?"
Like really now that I'm with you I have to look like a homeless person!?

And my last relationship...if we where going out he would say you don't need it, what we are doing isn't a big deal. You know pretty much rush me, and give me no time for that. I told my sister that, and she was like my husband knows better not to do that to me. LOL
Anyways when I went out with ex when he commanded me not to put effort in my looks, I would notice him checking out dolled up b!tches, and make me feel like **** . (and that was the turning point with me...that I wasn't gonna take his crap...and was pretty much wanted to give a big eff you to my now ex guy)
Makes me wonder...he just doesn't want me to look good out in public to other guys.

So near the end of the relationship. I got myself ready...I told him I would be done with my make-up in 10 minutes. (I do my make-up way faster now haha) But then he got mad cause I still had to do my hair...(******* )...I didn't even bother explaining to him...I said 10 minutes for make up now I have to do my hair get over it! Since he's mentally unstable...and he would probably flip a table...So I just calmly went back and did my hair...and then I said "okay I'm ready now" He desided to "punish me"...and go "no we are not leaving right now...we are going to wait. for no reason" (to like teach me a lesson wtf) I was just like "fine" he just sat there and watched tv for ten minutes then we left. That was another moment where I realized I can do better than this. And this isn't normal.

He is a Gemini with Cancer Moon...so he likes to flirt with other women/girls half the time I thought it was a little too much and insulting to me. And I wouldn't dare do that **** in front of him.

But then that night I just didn't give a f()ck.

He puts his arms around women sometimes. So that night it clicked...and I knew I was worth way more than him...and said if he can do it then so can I...when he was doing his thing I didn't react. But when I was flirting with guys...and one put their arm around me...He just couldn't bare it!

For once my ex knew I how I felt...and that I can play that **** too. And that he asked for it.
I probably gave my ex a mocking look too.(revenge) And that just proved that he is a double standards jerk.

But that is the reasoning behind why I want to see how guys react when I talk about make-up...the little things like that, can give you a clue if the guy is stable mentally.

But let me just say there is a difference between testing someone...and being vengefull.

Like me saying to a guy "I'm going on a make-up spree later with my sister I can't wait" and seeing how he reacts. Is my way of testing...I didn't realize I was doing on it purpose. I was like 'why do I keep talking to guys about make-up?...'Then I realized 'ohhhh thats why!!!'

posted February 27, 2013 07:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Tanya0510:
I just started dating a Cancer with Moon in Scorpio conjunct his Pluto in Scorpio.
He's very sweet, but now I am noticing he's kinda "mean".. & I felt like huh?? I notice he likes "hurting" me.. but when I first met him he didn't seem that way. When once we got involved romantically though, I noticed he will not be very nice or will slap me on the butt where I say it hurts, so he does it even more. Strange!!

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No offense, but the few Cancers with Scorpio Moons (men AND women) I've known are kinda.. not very cool. They are so defensive, it's almost pathological. A lot of things you say/do are seen as "hurtful" and so they feel they have the right to react in a jerk!sh way and be mean to *you*. They can be so rude! And their excuse is always "you started it", "you make me feel bad", "you humiliated me" etc. Always your fault. They are so insecure, also... The ones I've known at least. Morbidly jealous. But you'd *never* think that when you first meet them. At first they're like total sweethearts, into morals, etc.

Just be careful... they can be abusive.
Don't let yourself be treated like cra@p.

posted February 27, 2013 10:35 AM            

My mother is a Scorpio Moon, so I'm very familiar with the energy. She has put me through those "Scorp tests" as well, especially when it has to do with finances or plans she thinks you're lying about. Usually I can deal, but sometimes I get so tired of the way she sneaks her own opinion and way of doing into my plans. I know she's worried, but it makes me wonder if I'm ever going to be able to make decisions on my own.

Despite that, I get on very well with her. She's extremely protective and sometimes I have to talk her out of going after someone because she's mad at them (or they hurt me or someone else in the family). You could never say she doesn't care. (Which I like about Scorps myself - my Leo sun does not like indifference either.) I completely got to the "acting tough but actually very sensitive" thing. And it's usually not even what they did but that they were so casual about it, now that doesn't sit well with her!

But I've also seen the worst of Pluto coming out in full force. With some ex-friends (well, I guess they weren't) who acted pretty much like how you Scorp Moons talk about stinging back. Very controlling. I remember they didn't talk to me when we first met, not until I came to them and was set on getting to know them. I checked their charts (I wanted to know if astrology could explain where it went wrong) and they don't have the Scorpio Moon, but they do have a singleton Pluto in a fixed t-square with their Sun and Moon. All three of them. I guess that's still some of its energy. In my case I sadly enough was on the "revenge" end for a remark I'd made that must've really hit a nerve. Spent over a year trying to set things right and make up with them, but they wouldn't let me. ;_; Eventually I just gave up on them, thinking they must've never liked me in the first place, they were just so flat-out cold about it.

I could post the whole story if nobody minds a huuuge info dump? I've actually started researching a lot (still baffled they only have one generational planet in Scorpio - I could've sworn they had a stellium) because the "stinging because they're hurt/testing people to see if they mean it" thing fit them so much. They gloated to me about screwing someone else over who'd p*ssed them off to me. Like... I got a little scared .__. I'm a lover, not a fighter. I seem to run into people like that a lot, so I could really use some help. At least my mother still forgives people.

So as an outsider, I do get being cautious and not wanting to give it a chance until you're sure these people will stick around. But, having been on the receiving end of those tests, which are exhausting emotionally, I'm a bit freaked out. Sometimes I don't know what I'd have to do to convince these people I'm honest. (And I am, otherwise I wouldn't go through all of these loops for them!! Ugh!) Not sure if I've been tested just for my reaction though (aside from my mother). Probably, but didn't notice.

posted February 27, 2013 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Hi. Another scorpio moon here. I'm not aware of going out of my way to test anyone. What is true is that I am normally a bit wary of people, and if they do hurt me I withdraw a bit and some part of my connection with them dies a little death. Too many of those "little deaths" and I start to cut myself off from them properly. It isn't a test, its a genuine desire to block them out.

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posted February 27, 2013 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
To be honest, I think it's kind of a mirror reaction. They really are super sensitive, and so, to make up for it, they tend to be overly abrasive and rough with others so they don't appear to be super sensitive. They're afraid others will hurt them first, so they push others away until they figure out if they can trust you or not.

Because they approach the world like: "Not everyone is looking out for MY well-being, so I have to do what I can to take care of myself" they assume that everyone else does this as well, so if you can't take care of yourself and your own emotions, they will not be the ones to do it for you. (Which is not an excuse for being a jerk, but still... This is the way a lot of them think). You have to be fairly secure in yourself and you have to know where you stand on things with them.

Personally, I also think that they just like to see how others will react in certain situations. If you are prone to going off like a roman candle when your buttons are pushed a little bit, chances are, you don't want to hang out with a Scorpio.

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posted February 27, 2013 10:30 PM            

1. accuse the object of my affection of having negative feelings about me, even though I don't think they do (but I want them to say how wrong I am)

2. make the person upset on purpose to see their limits, or to see if they get really mean so that I prepare myself for future "real" fights

3. to find out if they can keep their word, if they promise to do something, I will indirectly give them the opportunity to do it like I will ask them for money if they have previously said they would back me up in an emergency.

4. pretend like I am in a crisis to see their reaction, similar to number 3 like I will say "I am going to take all these pills" And wait to see their reaction etc

5. Be really sweet to them and see if they appreciate my actions, if they dont I will be upset

I almost do nothing directly, I always make it seem a little dramatic. Basically if I want to know something about their morals/personality I will set up a scenario instead of plainly asking them, because people lie all the time, actions speak louder than words!

posted February 27, 2013 10:41 PM              

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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
yes, I test all the time and I think it comes from insecurity. Some of the things I do

1. accuse the object of my affection of having negative feelings about me, even though I don't think they do (but I want them to say how wrong I am)

2. make the person upset on purpose to see their limits, or to see if they get really mean so that I prepare myself for future "real" fights

3. to find out if they can keep their word, if they promise to do something, I will indirectly give them the opportunity to do it like I will ask them for money if they have previously said they would back me up in an emergency.

4. pretend like I am in a crisis to see their reaction, similar to number 3 like I will say "I am going to take all these pills" And wait to see their reaction etc

5. Be really sweet to them and see if they appreciate my actions, if they dont I will be upset

I almost do nothing directly, I always make it seem a little dramatic. Basically if I want to know something about their morals/personality I will set up a scenario instead of plainly asking them, because people lie all the time, actions speak louder than words!

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posted January 24, 2016 10:01 PM            

Cancer sun/Scorpio moon (the bear)

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posted January 14, 2017 10:08 PM            

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Here are some: withdrawing from the relationship after things get heavy (to maintain control?), saying nasty things to you (to push you away? or to see if you can take it?), maintaining a poker face, and acting indifferent all the while probing you (to keep you guessing?), wanting you to show vulnerability but never showing theirs (double standard? YES!)...
I would bet many here have experienced similar themes with a scorp moon...to me at the root of it all seems to be a need to maintain control at all costs...

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Okay... experienced all of this, like many others here, with scorpio moon person. When does it end? What's the next chapter? Signs that phase two is about to begin and the person deems you worthy. Does it ever end?! Or do they just test you through all of life. I must be a masochist...

posted January 15, 2017 12:10 AM            

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Here are some: withdrawing from the relationship after things get heavy (to maintain control?), saying nasty things to you (to push you away? or to see if you can take it?), maintaining a poker face, and acting indifferent all the while probing you (to keep you guessing?), wanting you to show vulnerability but never showing theirs (double standard? YES!)...
I would bet many here have experienced similar themes with a scorp moon...to me at the root of it all seems to be a need to maintain control at all costs...

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Yes. I've seen those behaviors.

The first person was a Gemini-Scorpio. I was only interested in friendship. Things got along great, then he would do something to push my buttons, or start acting pouty. First I would never address "it", just smile and walk away in an upbeat manner. From there I would give him A LOT of space, and waited until he sought me out.

posted January 15, 2017 12:47 AM            

Young Scorpio moons (i.e. normally younger than 25 or so) tend to play a lot of games in relationships. Again, this is a generalization. These types will stir up drama just so they can see how you react. People of other signs engage in this behavior, too, but it seems to be more common among young Scorpio moons. Their tendency to test people occurs even among friendships. One of my close friends is a Scorpio moon. We first met when we were 19. At the very beginning of the friendship, she tried to put me through these tests. Having a strong scorpio influence myself (including moon square pluto), I had an easy time recognizing what she was doing. I simply called her out on her behavior and made it clear that I don't play games or create drama just to mess with people. As a result, I expected the same treatment in return. I also informed her directly that I don't love unconditionally. If someone betrays me, then I will no longer care about that person. I may forgive them eventually, but I can never trust them again.

posted January 15, 2017 04:54 AM            

Hmm, they turn cold out of nothing?
Hmm, they let it go if something realy is strange with you for them, they may give you a hint, but a lil one, and if you don`t change in a certain time, they start to play on you because of that? ( my thoughsts through my experience)

But I guess they sometimes also have issues that make them act this way, but are not able to talk about those issues
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posted January 15, 2017 11:18 AM            

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The crazy mind games immediately stopped. She behaved like a normal human being after I called her out on her BS. We are still good friends 12 years later. Remember, you are a human being, not a test subject. Make it clear to them that you are not their toy. Remind them that true loyalty is not blind devotion. It involves standing by someone during their darkest hour and being supportive. It has nothing to do with putting up with their temper tantrums and being too afraid to call them out on their BS.

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posted January 15, 2017 07:49 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
NVM. I don't know why this behavior described is ******* me off so much today. Anyone pulled mind games like that on me today would get the pain they deserve, not just cut out of my life completely. For a sign that doesn't tolerate hypocrisy, it sure can practice a lot of its own!

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Hey, the behavior has ****** me off as well. The scorpio moon in particular that I was talking about came off as mature and pretty much everything I was looking for in a mate. Then they started playing these games with me and for the last year, they have put me through hell. They have turned all my friends and the majority of my coworkers against me and humiliated me in front of a lot of people.