posted September 08, 2011 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Off the top of my head, and you can disregard this info based on intuition rather than first hand experience, Scorpio is very loyal. When they're in, they're all in. But that happens very rarely, since they start out as trusting and then they get hurt and close off. So they'll hurt you, push you away, push you to the brink of sanity, just to see how loyal YOU are. Do you still love them?

I also suspect that they hold in high regard the idea of unconditional love and that there is a double standard. They get to not love unconditionally, but you have to love them even if they hurt you. This is not Cancer, who will hurt you and feel bad afterwards. The Scorpio will smile inside, because he'll know that you care. I think the tests are best handled with maturity and I also believe that they like it when they find someone who will stand his or her ground.
Not for the faint hearted, that's for sure.

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posted September 08, 2011 09:06 PM            

After the weight of highschool lifted off me...she did something really awesome for me that summer...that made me really apriciate her, and have respect for her again.

I moved out a few months later...after 6 months of that I moved back when things got unbearible living with the ex...
and to have her take me back when I was almost completly broke...and not treat me like crap for moving back. Now I really have no reason at all to hate her.

So anyways I like to randomly give her hugs now. Wich I really never did growing up. I like to see that reaction on her go from 'wtf' to 'yeay'
(warning my energy is good today and I can't stop typing!)

I also have a flahback from when I was like four or something...she was on the couch and I wanted to see if she would notice if I spit on head...Well she noticed! Don't ask me why! Just for the sake of testing the patience out of parents like all kids do I guess.

Ha...I've grown up so much since then. :P

posted September 08, 2011 09:07 PM            

Does he expect me to watch him paly video games?
But then if I want to read cosmopolitan...or read a biography on one of my favorite rappers, that he despises...try to anything demand my attention, and watch his video games or something?

The little things like that make you relize he's not the one...

Couples should either do their own things when their interests are not the same

Or be a good sport for eachother once in a while...but either way the couple should be able to respect that their hobbies and interest that they could give a rats ass about themself...and understand that their SO needs time to enjoy those things...and if you don't want their crap scarfed down your throat don't you dare do the same...cause if you do you're a douchebag.
I feel like my Aqua Mars plays a role in this too. (and maybe my Aries Sun and Gemini rising. and Sag DC)

posted September 08, 2011 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
It's true for Scorpio/Pluto, in general. They put you in a certain situation, say things to you that they don't believe to be true or accurate, they just want to see how you will react, if you will turn grouchy and push them away. They're looking to see what you can take and if you're strong enough to stick by them through the bad times as well as the good. They also want to see if you can be trusted or if you're full of *hit, etc. Once you pass then they simmer down, a lot, and show their more sensitive side. It's not true for all strong Scorp/Pluto people, just in general. They don't want just any ol' dummy to get close to them.

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posted September 08, 2011 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by polysigh:
Not sure what kind of reaction they want or need though!

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posted September 08, 2011 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by etherealenlightenment:
Oh gosh, the infamous Scorpio "tests!" I've about had enough of those. Every single guy I've been with has had *some* Scorpio prominent in their charts, and I can tell you, I have FINALLY learned to stay away from them. Not to discourage you, but I find these "tests" to be downright painful. I can't stand the thought of someone toying with people's emotions that way. And it's true. There IS a double standard. A huge one. They can "test" and toy with you all they like, to their heart's content, but don't you dare do that to them. They will NOT forgive you, or at least will keep it in the back of their mind, and bring it up as an excuse not to trust you in the future. And then the thing is, you can't always tell when they're "testing" you and when they're actually just being paranoid (which I warn you, is often). My last boyfriend was a Scorpio Moon, and he's accused me of every possible rotten thing you can think of (and I've never done any of them). Perhaps it was our tight Moon-Pluto conjunction, or what have you, but there was a severe lack of trust and honesty (from his end). As was previously mentioned, DEFINITELY not for the faint of heart. Be prepared to put up with a lot, and go through a lot of pain. And the tests are continuous. Perhaps after several years or so, they settle down, but I was living with mine for a little over a year, and there was some "test" or "crisis" (they love those too) at least once every month. His jealousy was also out of control, and so I just couldn't take it.

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posted September 08, 2011 10:03 PM            

I can only imagine how I would feel if that happened to me.

So I will admit that is the root of why I don't completely put out in relationships right away.

You could even say it's a paranoia.

I need time to know for sure that the guy I'm with doesn't plan on doing that.

posted September 08, 2011 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by etherealenlightenment:
Oh gosh, the infamous Scorpio "tests!" I've about had enough of those. Every single guy I've been with has had *some* Scorpio prominent in their charts, and I can tell you, I have FINALLY learned to stay away from them. Not to discourage you, but I find these "tests" to be downright painful. I can't stand the thought of someone toying with people's emotions that way. And it's true. There IS a double standard. A huge one. They can "test" and toy with you all they like, to their heart's content, but don't you dare do that to them. They will NOT forgive you, or at least will keep it in the back of their mind, and bring it up as an excuse not to trust you in the future. And then the thing is, you can't always tell when they're "testing" you and when they're actually just being paranoid (which I warn you, is often). My last boyfriend was a Scorpio Moon, and he's accused me of every possible rotten thing you can think of (and I've never done any of them). Perhaps it was our tight Moon-Pluto conjunction, or what have you, but there was a severe lack of trust and honesty (from his end). As was previously mentioned, DEFINITELY not for the faint of heart. Be prepared to put up with a lot, and go through a lot of pain. And the tests are continuous. Perhaps after several years or so, they settle down, but I was living with mine for a little over a year, and there was some "test" or "crisis" (they love those too) at least once every month. His jealousy was also out of control, and so I just couldn't take it.

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OMG yes! Just imagine, my ex was also a cancer sun.

I'm staying away from people with heavy water charts. He had a moon conjunct pluto by 1 degree in 7th house scorp -_-

And in the end the funny thing was, I turned out to be the trustworthy one, he was the one that lied and cheated? Lol.

I seem to have the tendency to draw intense people with scorp in their charts.

My parents are both scorpys, my dad has 4? main planets in scorpio, I used to have a best friend that had a scorp moon, I still have a really good frd with a scorp moon, I encounter alot of scorp moons?

posted September 09, 2011 07:00 AM            

Lonake was also right, this is true for anything Pluto related.

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Originally posted by polysigh:
Thanks for the reply, maira!! But quick question...how can someone stand their ground with a lunar scorpio who pushes them away? For me, standing my ground would be not chasing him and hanging back but wouldn't they then consider this to be disloyal and giving up on them? It seems to be a double edged sword and this is why scorp moons totally confuse me. Also, I relate to what you wrote in that when they hurt you and you react they are almost happy because then they know you care. I have experienced this.

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I was actually thinking the same thing as Lonake, but I was too sleepy to explain what "holding your ground" means. My guess is that it's Taurus related - I'm also a Plutonian, so I attract a lot of them, but I do have a Taurus moon, it takes eternity for me to get mad.

If it were for early stages of dating (which you're not), I think that they would be intrigued by someone whose "wall" is as big or bigger than theirs. Just mirror their behavior and you'll be fine. I'm aware that some people would consider this to be cheating, pretending that you are someone that you're not, but dating in my opinion is a game, and women tend to get hurt more than the guys.

The big problems arise when there's an actual relationship - the Sh*it tests just get, um, sh*ittier. I'm having difficulty explaining theoretically how to handle it, so I'll just tell you what I would do. Keep in mind that this is my Taurus moon/Aqua SN talking.

First of all, I believe that they can't stand people who are hypocritical, even though they also are. And they are very good at spotting BS. So don't say "I love you unconditionally" if you don't mean it. For example, if you would catch him in bed with your best friend, you should still be able to say "I love you" and mean it. Even though you're leaving.
If you can't, better say "I don't believe in unconditional love, my love has terms and conditions and these are..."

Second, I would try communicating more. Asking stuff like "are you aware that this makes me hurt?" and also "how do you want me to react to this situation?"
I would explain that I can love someone and not want to be with them, since I'm perfectly capable of loving from a distance in order not to hurt anymore.

All in all, if you're a Plutonian, you should be able to see through their BS. Call them on it. Don't walk away, don't fall apart. Do it with love, with grace, be kind, be humane.

And, if you are a Plutonian, you know that you are able to love unconditionally. But this doesn't mean anyone should be someone else's doormat.

posted September 09, 2011 09:48 AM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Aww, I'm so happy that my interp was right, thank you!!

Lonake was also right, this is true for anything Pluto related.

I was actually thinking the same thing as Lonake, but I was too sleepy to explain what "holding your ground" means. My guess is that it's Taurus related - I'm also a Plutonian, so I attract a lot of them, but I do have a Taurus moon, it takes eternity for me to get mad.

If it were for early stages of dating (which you're not), I think that they would be intrigued by someone whose "wall" is as big or bigger than theirs. Just mirror their behavior and you'll be fine. I'm aware that some people would consider this to be cheating, pretending that you are someone that you're not, but dating in my opinion is a game, and women tend to get hurt more than the guys.

The big problems arise when there's an actual relationship - the Sh*it tests just get, um, sh*ittier. I'm having difficulty explaining theoretically how to handle it, so I'll just tell you what I would do. Keep in mind that this is my Taurus moon/Aqua SN talking.

First of all, I believe that they can't stand people who are hypocritical, even though they also are. And they are very good at spotting BS. So don't say "I love you unconditionally" if you don't mean it. For example, if you would catch him in bed with your best friend and you should still be able to say "I love you" and mean it. Even though you're leaving.
If you can't, better say "I don't believe in unconditional love, my love has terms and conditions and these are..."

Second, I would try communicating more. Asking stuff like "are you aware that this makes me hurt?" and also "how do you want me to react to this situation?"
I would explain that I can love someone and not want to be with them, since I'm perfectly capable of loving from a distance in order not to hurt anymore.

All in all, if you're a Plutonian, you should be able to see through [b]their BS. Call them on it. Don't walk away, don't fall apart. Do it with love, with grace, be kind, be human.

And, if you are a Plutonian, you know that you are able to love unconditionally. But this doesn't mean anyone should be someone else's doormat.

Alternative: sh*it test the hell out of them [/B]

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Maira, thanks for the valuable information!

posted September 09, 2011 04:19 PM            

Will he come to you to show that he's finished?
Or you have to find it out yourself?

posted September 09, 2011 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
JFK, my guess is that the wall goes back up pretty fast after the connection is severed. You'd have to be more dramatic than a heartfelt letter, which could work with a Pisces. The image of someone running into a car passing by to make Scorpio "forgive" a real or imaginary slight comes to mind

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