posted September 23, 2011 02:12 PM            

My Moon and Jupiter are in the 8th house.
I read this interpritaion today:

"Jupiter in the Eighth House
Jupiter is in a favorable position here and it indicates a release, through death, from material or physical suffering. Death will usually come from natural causes unless there are other indications somewhere in the nativity chart.

As far as legacy and inheritance goes, it is a good position. It can even bring more financial gain than was originally anticipated. The partner has a natural talent for dealing with money matters and this eliminates the financial worries that may arise. There is also an intense indication of financial gain through the demise of friends and members of the family circle."

Is that saying Im going to die and finally be released from my "suffering"??

Moon in the Eighth House

The Moon in the Eighth House affects the functional side of the native's life indicating that functional irregularities will most likely be the cause of death. However, there is a strong signification that the death will be reasonably peaceful. When the Moon resides in the Eighth House, the native can expect to gain financially through legacy, inheritance or even through unexpected gifts. There is also an indication that the native will enjoy a certain amount of financial gain through the dealings of the marriage or business partner.

In some instances, death, when the Moon is posited the Eighth House, can be caused by unwise risk, but normally, if such risks are avoided, death will be as a result of natural causes."

So basically I better stay away from risking my life and Ill die of natural causes?

posted September 23, 2011 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Is that saying Im going to die and finally be released from my "suffering"??

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posted September 23, 2011 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Jupiter in H8 here.
It could also mean insatiable sexual appetites.
Eternal optimist,u believe that life is ulitmately good.

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posted September 24, 2011 02:03 AM            

Here is how I see my 8th House in Scorpio:

If you have ever studied Tarot, you are familiar with the big stigma about the “DEATH CARD ooOooOooOOO”. For professional readers, once the death card pops up, you have already started your obligatory disclaimer before the client is finished gasping. The 8th house is similar, death happens all the time, animals, plants, graduating from school is a kind of death, leaving your home, falling asleep, exhaling, they are all "conclusions of a pattern, resulting in material which is later used to nourish a new pattern" AKA "Death".

To better understand, lets look at the 2nd House (the 8th House's opposing BFF). The 2nd House represents our attitude toward material things and the qualities/talents each individual has for acquiring and using those things. This house is about how we view, acquire, and use the physical, in order to qualify and define our self. In Aries (and the 1st House) “Self” arises, but it is fresh out of Pisces, so it has no form or definition, it is purely "individual potential, projecting forth". Taurus (and the 2nd House) is focused on appreciating and sculpting the qualities of that individual potential, in order to give it definition/form. In this way a person may drive a specific car, wear specific clothing, and enjoy specific food, because they view these material involvements to express their individual quality. This person may use hair dye, makeup, or get a tattoo to enhance the quality by which they feel they are defined.

In the 8th House we find our attitude toward the loss of material things and the way in which we transform by experiencing material loss, It essentially represents how we benefit from the non-material. This house is a pretty cool house to have your Sun in (if you don't mind being sort of an introvert). Where the 2nd House indicates the role matter plays in our life, the 8th House focuses on what exists once the physical has been stripped away. Having a Sun here (especially conj Neptune) feels a bit like you and everyone else are wearing shells, reading symbols, and talking in grunts. What is valuable is not specifically the body, letter, or vocalization, but how the body's actions, the letter's message, and the vocalization's meaning effect and transform you. This is the house where grandparents pass on stories of wisdom and experience to their grand children, or where psychological issues are passed down from generation to generation.

Death is happening all the time, on grand and quantum scales; it's a natural aspect of our reality. The 8th House teaches us that “Death” as we understand it doesn't exist, because energy never vanishes, it continues and is used later toward an unknown benefit.

So why Taxes and Sex?

Taxes can be passed on to your kids after you die. Taxes are also a parson's way of giving something physical toward the well-being of society (which is a nonphysical idea). In good sex, you are performing a physical action, but connecting to something deeper than the physical. It is also the time when basic genetic material is passed on to continue the legacy of the species (which is also a much larger concept than just it's physical expression).

In the case of Moon in the 8th House and without knowing your Moon sign or the sign ruling your 8th House cusp, I am more inclined to see this placement as a blessing. You need others to connect with you in a non superficial way, I would even assume someone with this placement could feel uncomfortable or suspicious of superficial or emotionally guarded people. This person may have an instinctual understanding that we are all so much more than who we outwardly express our selves to be. This could give the native an intuitive link to others around them. If the native is sensitive, they will actually feel emotions of others happening in the same “room” where they feel their own emotions. This would give them an advantage at understanding what others are feeling, regardless of what they are projecting. A more negative side to this placement could manifest as an instinctual habit of emotionally manipulating others, especially those less aware of their own feelings. When you love someone, you love them with x-ray vision, you have the capability to know exactly what others need because you just feel it. This can make you capable of deep nurturing. When it comes to death, I would assume this placement would cause “change” to be an emotional experience. “Letting go” could be a big life lesson. Maternally this could indicate someone who's mother's death has effected them deeply. It could represent a mother who connected with you on a deep level. It could also indicate a psychologically abusive mother, it certainly depends on the chart.

With Jupiter in the 8th, life's lessons and personal evolution could surround non-physical topics (magik, mysticism, psychology, death, etc..). This person may also need a death-like resolution to life experiences, before they feel as though they have fully learned. Depending on the sign, it could lend a morbid sense of humor or a dash of optimism, relative to concepts like death and change. This would also lend an ability to be fearless and rise above issues which force them to face the deep mysteries beyond the physical. They could get a kick out of placing others in situations where the person must shed their projections and face their true non-physical self. This Jupiter grows behind the scenes and could be less likely to learn in a quick and consciously obvious way. In fact they may have to chew on an idea or even forget about it for a while before they are capable of accepting it as truth. This could be frustrating to people who are unaware that everyone has their own unique learning process. This person could often get lost talking to their self or exploring their non-physical self. Self improvement would be very important, but if taken negatively, this person could believe their own lighthearted nature to be superficial. If they understand Jupiter, then they realize Jupiter teaches us to lighten up; things are often not as serious as we believe. This person would be attracted to someone who has a dark but humorous side. Depending on the signs, I would even suggest this person take up regular meditation as a way to devote time every day toward self-exploration. In regards to death, this native could have a close uncle or aunt who's death effects the natives desire to explore the nature of people. It could also indicate an uncle or aunt who acts as a benefactor in some way. Psychological or sexual abuse is not terribly likely with Jupiter, but it certainly can have a part if the chart is structured in that direction.

Please always take whatever you read about astrology with a grain of salt. Weigh everything against your own experiences and then form your conclusion. There are a lot of people who write some really awful things for whatever reason. It's much more fun feeling things out anyway. It makes us feel like we earned our knowledge. =)

posted September 24, 2011 02:12 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:

LOLOLOLOL!!! I have Jup in the 8th and can assure you that my chances of inheriting (other than debt) are slim!!
Don't believe everything you read, that's one.
The other is, most of this stuff is so badly written, it only adds to the confusion of the reader.
Keep looking! I would trust books from respectable astrologers more than any online "article".

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I agree with this, because I've noticed that pretty much any random person can start a blog or website pushing their astrological theories, whether they even know much about astrology or not. Although, I've seen some pretty asinine things in some astrology books over the years too, but yeah, it's way less frequent than online.

And...some of the eighth house Jupiter stuff is true. I have Moon, Pluto Jupiter and Saturn all in that house. Moon and Pluto conjunct; Jupiter and Saturn form a separate conjunction.

posted September 24, 2011 08:39 AM            

Money is not what Im really concerned about because we are doing fine with what we have.
...its death Im worried about. (lol)

But I did read (shoddy astrology again?) that any planets (esp. moon) in the 8th will dwell on the subject.

Its weird because my moon being in my 8th I did loose my mother at a young age (20) due to alcohol withdrawls. My SO has his sun and moon in the 8th and he has a really good relationship with his mother (guess that has to do with the aspects?)

posted September 24, 2011 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
The 8th House is a pretty important house in my chart, my Venus, Ceres, Sun, and Neptune all live there. It took me a long time to understand 8th House, because 1). People often do a crappy job at explaining it, or 2). Because all the core concepts of the 8th House are generally hard to verbalize.

Here is how I see my 8th House in Scorpio:

To better understand, lets look at the 2nd House (the 8th House's opposing BFF). The 2nd House represents our attitude toward material things and the qualities/talents each individual has for acquiring and using those things. This house is about how we view, acquire, and use the physical, in order to qualify and define our self. In Aries (and the 1st House) “Self” arises, but it is fresh out of Pisces, so it has no form or definition, it is purely "individual potential, projecting forth". Taurus (and the 2nd House) is focused on appreciating and sculpting the qualities of that individual potential, in order to give it definition/form. In this way a person may drive a specific car, wear specific clothing, and enjoy specific food, because they view these material involvements to express their individual quality. This person may use hair dye, makeup, or get a tattoo to enhance the quality by which they feel they are defined.

In the 8th House we find our attitude toward the loss of material things and the way in which we transform by experiencing material loss, It essentially represents how we benefit from the non-material. This house is a pretty cool house to have your Sun in (if you don't mind being sort of an introvert). Where the 2nd House indicates the role matter plays in our life, the 8th House focuses on what exists once the physical has been stripped away. .

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posted September 24, 2011 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
really good analysis. it makes me think on the mithology of the house. when you get toally naked of everything and in the 2nd you get all it is important to you. i read today that 8th means the "eternal longings" i suspect that we long what we sometime had, how could we long something we have never lost? that may be the reason some losses are reflected here (loss of virginity, loss of power, abuse of own self-esteem?), but lossess that makes grow your soul. i am not sure how it relates with taxes and inheritance. i really dont get that in spite of your explanation, but following the logic of 2nd what i have, 8 what my partern have, and 11 what my career give me, it have some sence about partnership thoug.

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I can definitely see "eternal longings in the 8th House. Longing is often left over after an object or experience passes away.

In the sense of Taxes and Inheritance, look at the 8th House as "other people's things" both may become much easier to understand. Regarding taxes, we benefit daily from the programs which taxes create (clean streets, police protection, social security, medical care, etc..). the benefit comes less from our own direct efforts and more from the government, we therefor personally gain from many other people's work. The same could be said of inheritance, it is gaining benefit from another person's life.

In the sense of "Legacy", whatever debt you gain can be passed on to your family when you die. Whatever your tax money is invested in, will be a foundation and provide benefit to every generation who inherits the society after you (which makes you both a beneficiary of the government and a benefactor of society). Keep in mind, it is not just physical legacy, our understanding of physics continues to grow from the discoveries made by Albert Einstein, even long after his death. That is what humanity "inherited" from him.

Who we are behind our skin is timeless, it is the part that stays with and influences the people we know even when we are not around, it is the part of us which influences people we will never meet. 8th House matters happen every day. I could pick up a book someone dropped and smile. Without even thinking about it, that could effect that person and everyone they meet for the rest of the day. That is a small kind of legacy which begins as a simple describable action and spreads out into something indescribable which produces much benefit to others.

That is why the 8th House teaches us that "death" as we picture it isn't "real". Because we never decompose, only our "things" and "symbols of having driven around a body" do, and even in their dispersal they provide lasting benefit to the world. Look at an acorn, if you look deep enough you can see every oak tree which lead to its existence, look deeper and you can see every drop of water, toiling farmer, forest fire, particle of air, molecule of mineral, and photon of sunlight which made those oak trees possible. Look deeper and you see that the drop of water used to be in the rain, but the rain stopped, before that a cloud, but the cloud dispersed, before that in the tears of an old woman, but the woman's body died, before that a glass of wine which was consumed, a grape which was squished, an ocean which evaporated, an iceberg which melted, a comment from outside our solar system which crashed, and on and on into forever. The 8th house teaches us that nothing dies, it just transforms into something which benefits other things.

posted September 28, 2011 11:24 AM            

****** conjunct really, because makes me VERY perceptive, but at the same time thanks to capricorn I have a huge fear of acting/reacting to my environment.

(also have capricorn in venus and mars conjunct, so I also have a need to stay in CONTROL of myself , which is next to impossible when you are noticing 6 people in the room emoting 10 different things at the same time ... subconsciously?....)

posted September 28, 2011 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by balancingflames:
That is interesting. However I think about "death" all the time.

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