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amelia28
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posted September 24, 2011 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone,

I just checked out my draconic chart for the first time. I am married and all my life have been the faithful kind. For the first time ever I am in an affair but this guy had to move to another state so we will only see eachother occasionally or just stay friends. This guy's vertex conjuncts at a very tight orbit my natal Venus, mars and karma and my natal vertex opposes tightly his natal sun. Also my draconic juno conjuncts very tightly his natal sun. Also my part of lovers conjuncts tightly his natal venus and my natal southnode conjuncts tighly his draconic venus and not as tightly his natal venus. However, I am now finding that in the draconic world my husband's vertex conjuncts my venus, mars, and karma at a very tight orbit. In non draconic world husband's Juno conjuncts really tightly my natal sun.


What the hell?! What on earth is this suppose to mean? I mean my God talk about Karma!!! This is the only time in my life I have ever cheated and is like is fated. I feel a real strong connection with this guy. If anyone can bring light into this crazy situation and how is going to evolve I would greatly appreciate it.

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amelia28
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posted September 24, 2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also,

My natal vesta and northnode is in gemini in the 7th house and I have gemini in venus, mars and mercury in my draconic chart. Based on what I have read so far about draconic charts is it safe to say that my draconic venus, mars and mercury are supporting the evolution and growth of natal NN gemini in the 7th and that husband's draconic vertex conjunct my draconic karma, venus and mars is also supporting the evolution of my natal NN gemini in the 7th?

Husband constantly is forcing me to be a better listener and my relationship with him is very mercurial. He is very intellectual and is constantly helping me grow intellectually. Also he is constantly forcing me to learn about cooperation.


Is it safe to conclude that relationship with husband is northnode dominant and relationship with lover is southnode dominant and that I should part with lover? Is just that both feel so damn fated making it really hard to cut of either of them from my life completely...

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vesta
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posted September 25, 2011 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amelia, I am in the same type of situation (somewhat) but through my research I have found some very shocking things about myself and my husband plus the one my heart is with.

The natal will give you insight but the draconic will explain so much more. about the situation the draconic is not just the soul chart it is what your soul is striving towards in this life.
Look to asteroids to give deeper meaning
Example swindle conjunct amor (red flag) then you may want to look at why is that person taking on the aura of someone else?

Also, look to your solar return What planet rules the ASC, then look to the aspects that planet makes in the natal chart. don't forget the transiting planets they will contribute to the answer. Is there a pattern? Then take a look at the progressed chart? you will find an answer



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vesta
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posted September 25, 2011 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Also, the Vertex is very fated but also very karmic in nature.
this sound to me like maybe your karma is pushing you towards a new relationship. ( growth) not a bad thing maybe this is good for you maybe not again look too the solar, progressed, asteroids ect.. and those transits. not just your chart but the other two men involved.

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vesta
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posted September 25, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also,
I forgot to mention check the composite of you and husband to natals with all three people.

When another person enetrs a relationship between two others it can show in the composite compared with the natal.

A great example is the sun/moon midpoint of either you or husband conjuncting the sun of other person. or even the sun/ moon mid of the relationship itself. Also check the composite of you and other guy and see what the comparisons are does his venus or yours conjunct a planet in the composite?

things like that.

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posted September 25, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BelligerentPygmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had really intense standard synastry charts with people that were very accurate and actually reflected how we felt toward one another and what went on in the relationship, so I have a hard time buying that the Draconic synastry is the 'true' chart. What I think Draconic CAN show you though is whatever little things that the western geocentric synastry, doesn't show you; certain pivotal asteroids that may not aspect one another in the geo, will in the Draconic, or unaspected planets in the standard synastry chart definitely won't be in the Draconic....which helped explain a lot to me because in the synastry with an ex of mine, pretty much none of my planets other than Mars, aspected his moon. When I pulled the Draconic, I saw my Neptune conjunct it as well as harmonious aspects going from it to my Draconic moon. I double-checked it against the geocentric composite and found a moon-pluto square and a lot of other things confirming that there was definitely mutual moon or emotional activity going on there, despite the initial impression in the geo synastry. I checked even further by looking into the midpoints (as others here have stated) and found a lot of mutual midpoint activity as well.

A lot of work yes, but if you really want to get down to the bottom of how two people feel or felt for one another and the entire dynamic of the relationship, you have to take the time to look at all this stuff and weigh it up.

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iliketurtles
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posted September 25, 2011 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vesta:
also,
I forgot to mention check the composite of you and husband to natals with all three people.

When another person enetrs a relationship between two others it can show in the composite compared with the natal.

A great example is the sun/moon midpoint of either you or husband conjuncting the sun of other person. or even the sun/ moon mid of the relationship itself. Also check the composite of you and other guy and see what the comparisons are does his venus or yours conjunct a planet in the composite?

things like that.


theres this guy i like and our composite vertex conjuncts the sun of one of my very good friends (we have very similar tastes in men. you can see where this is going....). it's like a bad omen for our relationship if i remained close friends with her. theres a familiar energy between my friend and i. my venus conjuncts her south node and i feel as though we have been through stuff like that before except i'm not sure if i was in the wrong or if she was. all i know is that, as much as i love her, the very thought of leaving her alone with my guys really gives me the ***** lol she's very flirty and a go-getter. she can also be a real c**ktease and it's quite annoying. there's no chance me and this guy will ever be together anyway so thats alright. i just think that if we were, she'll be right there too. unless i destroy our friendship or it may cause heartbreak.

amelia28:
people have affairs for all sorts of reasons. hope you and your husband can sort this out.

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Odette
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posted February 12, 2014 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would the guy's Draconic Pluto conjunct the girl's natal Sun - mean in synastry?

The aspect is exact.

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Newrise
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posted February 12, 2014 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Interesting Odette, I have that in synastry too with someone, but with moon-pluto instead. My Dr Pluto conjunct their natal moon, and their dr Pluto conjunct my natal moon. So DW. Anyone?

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summerlite
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posted February 12, 2014 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iliketurtles:
theres this guy i like and our composite vertex conjuncts the sun of one of my very good friends (we have very similar tastes in men. you can see where this is going....). it's like a bad omen for our relationship if i remained close friends with her. theres a familiar energy between my friend and i. my venus conjuncts her south node and i feel as though we have been through stuff like that before except i'm not sure if i was in the wrong or if she was. all i know is that, as much as i love her, the very thought of leaving her alone with my guys really gives me the ***** lol she's very flirty and a go-getter. she can also be a real c**ktease and it's quite annoying. there's no chance me and this guy will ever be together anyway so thats alright. i just think that if we were, she'll be right there too. unless i destroy our friendship or it may cause heartbreak.

nice observation.

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